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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted January 30, 2017 02:55 PM |
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hippox89 said:
One issue with having a desert town is that the Sand terrain is kinda supposed to non-native to all of the towns, unless you have the Lodestar built. Or by other means, like having a Nomad in your army.
I suppose a way to preserve this aspect could be to make the desert town neutral. That is, you cannot pick it as a starting town on random maps. But this might also be seen as being too wasteful.
Anyhow, this is just one aspect on it to consider that I wanted to point out.
but it's only non native to all of the towns because there is no Sand town yet for it to be native to mate lol
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 30, 2017 03:06 PM |
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Should desert remain neutral just because of nomads?
I think it would be great with a desert themed town, Cove would also have fitted well in sand, but they made them swamp pirates which is also interesting, I guess.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 30, 2017 03:41 PM |
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Neutral town? 
If there ever is a new town I for sure want to see how it goes from day 1!
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hippox89
Famous Hero
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posted January 30, 2017 03:51 PM |
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Edited by hippox89 at 21:25, 30 Jan 2017.
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Sure, you can argue for that, verriker. For all I know, NWC might have contemplated creating such a town, at some point, at least. But they might also have deliberately opted not to. What evidence, if any, exists about it? I only know of the Nomad creature. And then there's that mysterious building on the SoD menu screen. But then again, I haven't played the campaign to know any better of it to be honest.
@Galaad
I never said it was a good idea or anything. It seems wasteful as I said. Still, my point about the Sand terrain stands. You could argue for it being a small loss, or not meaningful enough to actually prevent a desert town from being a good idea. But I'm not convinced about that myself at this point, at least.
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted January 30, 2017 08:32 PM |
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But a neutral town would be awesome too... start with a town from scratch and add some stuff from time to time. When you finished one building/unit the town can be built further, like restrictions in mapeditor. Also: your fanbase get updates... 
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted January 31, 2017 07:47 AM |
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IMO sand as a truly neutral terrain works, and I'm not in favour of a town that you can't select to start with. OTOH, I've though about mini-towns (possibly nameable as Hamlets), which are smaller (2x3 on the adventure map vs the normal 3x5-with-the-back-corners missing of the normal town), but have less capabilities as they'd lack City Halls (and thus Capitols), Castles, two levels of the Mage Guild, Resource Silos and tier 5/6/7 Dwellings, plus for those that share a type with existing towns, some of the special buildings.
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elaf
Adventuring Hero
viajeinterminable.com
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posted January 31, 2017 12:30 PM |
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Its right that sand is neutral and was neutral all the MM series, but,
Do not varn and its derivatives are not neutral "factions" in the mm universe?
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Jayfro
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 01, 2017 02:09 AM |
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Desert/Oasis Town
I know that Neph had already designed a Oasis town probably back in 2014, but I guess it has been shelved? Unfortunate, as I believe that Oasis would do much better than Forge, Kronverk or Cathedral.
I have been thinking about it for a while and why not make a town that includes some of the neutral creatures already built in the game. Yes, you would need to adjust either Mummies or Nomads to be stronger since both are level 3 currently. Additionally, you would still need to design the upgraded version of each creature, and create a level 1, 5 and 7 dwelling. 7 could be Rust Dragons, though:
Oasis
Level 1:
Level 2: Rogues/Thieves
Level 3: Mummies/Pharoah Mummies
Level 4: Nomads
Level 5:
Level 6: Gold/Diamond Golems
Level 7:
Level 1 ideas: Locust, Scarabs,
Level 5 ideas: ?
Level 7 ideas: Worm, Sphinx, Cobra,
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted February 01, 2017 08:45 AM |
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Come on, it's February 1, we need dat update NAO. 
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted February 01, 2017 08:50 AM |
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Sharpshooters are the neutral level 4 creature, for an upgrade please consider the Lava Sharpshooters from WoG (no fear, fireball, fire immune) and make them lava creatures. Inferno is an ammazing town but could use a stronger shooter, specially cause if they demon farm they will tend to have lots of slots free and gogs to be the second sacrifized creature.
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zmudziak22
Supreme Hero
Heroes 3 Fan
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posted February 01, 2017 12:46 PM |
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Is not better to introduce Succubus as alternative lvl 4 inferno creature.
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gatecrasher
Famous Hero
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posted February 01, 2017 06:27 PM |
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The HotA guys certainly won't arbitrarily slap neutral creatures together just to have a new town. What is that "neutral town" thing supposed to be? Either creatures are neutral or attached to a town...
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Janosiczek
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 01, 2017 07:12 PM |
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Ehhh... When new HOTA ? -_-
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pele
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 01, 2017 08:55 PM |
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Any news about patch..?
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Jayfro
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 01, 2017 11:11 PM |
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gatecrasher said:
The HotA guys certainly won't arbitrarily slap neutral creatures together just to have a new town. What is that "neutral town" thing supposed to be? Either creatures are neutral or attached to a town...
I understand what you are saying, but I don't think it is 'arbitrarily slapping' creatures together. Golems, Rogues, Mummies, Nomads, etc. all belong in a desert like setting, why not have an Oasis town with the backstory being that these wayward creatures came to find an Oasis in the middle of the desert and put together their own society, finding that protecting themselves as a group was better than defending themselves individually...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 01, 2017 11:59 PM |
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Jayfro said:
why not have an Oasis town with the backstory being that these wayward creatures came to find an Oasis in the middle of the desert and put together their own society, finding that protecting themselves as a group was better than defending themselves individually...
Dude, if there is a new town and you cannot play it it's lame!
There's no new town planned ATM anyway.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted February 02, 2017 06:34 AM |
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Jayfro said:
I understand what you are saying, but I don't think it is 'arbitrarily slapping' creatures together. Golems, Rogues, Mummies, Nomads, etc. all belong in a desert like setting...
Except the Golems, which really belong to Tower.
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Arkazon
Tavern Dweller
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posted February 02, 2017 02:31 PM |
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Question, is the Horn of the Abyss storyline over? As in there will be no more campaigns for HotA as listed in the campaign menu?
Will the following campaigns continue on it, or will they start a new storyline?
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P4R4D0X0N
Famous Hero
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posted February 02, 2017 10:16 PM |
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I guess we will or even won't see... someday...
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ShEv441
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 03, 2017 12:46 AM |
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Last posts were about new ideas for future town so I'm gonna also give you some of my ideas:
1) Underworld
2) Kronwerk, Cathedral
3)Forge
4)Nature
5)Asian
1.Don't you agree that next to water terrain the most undeveloped is underworld? Subterranean got one of the lowers amount of objects and this type usually covers big parts of the map - upper level of the map is mixed but underworld is in 80% Subterranean. New town in the future and bunch of new buildings/ decorations with it might improve it.
1a) First Idea is inspired of MM H7's fortress. Partly Dwarf faction located underground with huge role of fire instead of snow. (Fire Gigant, Fire Dragon, Dis, lave elemental)
1b) City with new underground monsters + dark elves
Objects that might be added are also similar to what we have seen in HOMM5 - train tracks, trolley, weird rock which shine, etc.
2) Won't say much about it cause we all know this idea. Imo Eastern European, autumn inqusition town would be really cool, so as viking/northen monsters's Kronwerk.
3) Town Inspired on technology. Hard to tell what is better - XIX steampunk or WWII. First one would probably fit better to HOMM3 but on the other hand WWII's one got strong M&M legacy.
4) Another Town based on Nature. We already have few neutrals that might fit perfect (satyr, leprechaun or scharpsooters). Rest could be some comeback from HOMM4 or H7 (white tigers, deers, mantids)
5) Asian town. City based on far east culture. It's not common in M&M universe but H6's Sanctuary was quite allright, and could be amazing with better unit rooster - 3 water womens, really Ubi?
What do you think about it?
@When can we expect new information about 1.5 ?
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