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Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 04, 2018 05:50 PM |
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Popcioslav said:
Oh and is there any tutorial on how to use RMG Template Editor? I really have no idea how to use it despite trying to make something work for 5 hours. I do know how to handle the templates itself, I just don't know how to set them up so I can actually try them out and play them.
First you should learn what is RMG and know all mechanics behind standard H3 RMGs. It's handy tutorial how to create rmgs before RMG Template Editor in polish. When you do it, I think that HotA's RMG Template Editor will be easy and understandable for you.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 04, 2018 06:18 PM |
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Hi guys. Since my computer is being repaired, I have'nt had the chance to try out 1.5.0 yet, so I would like to hear your impressions of it.
What do you especially like? and what don't you like? Also the new spell research system, how does it work? And don't you have to go back visiting the Mage Guild to learn spells anymore? Does Cove seem fairly balanced now? I'm also curious about AI, seems it was improved according to the changelog. I would love if it's become a better opponent.
Hope you would like to share your impressions, thanks.
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pellish
Famous Hero
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posted January 04, 2018 08:17 PM |
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There's an option in preferences for the map editor called "arena". What is this?
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Sav
Known Hero
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posted January 04, 2018 08:52 PM |
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Edited by Sav at 21:20, 04 Jan 2018.
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pellish said:
There's an option in preferences for the map editor called "arena". What is this?
This option can make the "one battle" maps more convenient. It is currently undocumented feature, and I won't describe it now. You can try to use it, if it is interesting for you.
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pellish
Famous Hero
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posted January 04, 2018 09:06 PM |
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Sav said:
pellish said:
There's an option in preferences for the map editor called "arena". What is this?
This option can make the "one battle" maps more convenient. It is currently undocumented feature, and I won't describe it now. You can try to use it, if it is interesting for your.
Sounds interesting. I'll try to check it out. Thank you.
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Gruk_
Hired Hero
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posted January 04, 2018 09:43 PM |
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Edited by Gruk_ at 21:46, 04 Jan 2018.
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Serp said:
"Same as player x" is missing for many things (towns/terrain/dwellings)
This is a very big problem =/
Yep, in neutral zones, there is currently no way to set town types, terrain, and dwelling faction according to a player's starting town.
Note though that for player zones, all of this is available:
- neutral towns can have same type as starting towns by checking "all towns/castles have same type"
- terrain can be same as town by checking "terrain > match to town"
- dwellings will have same type as starting town unless you check "Dwellings/creature reward : only neutral"
Serp said:
So to be able to create fair maps, I think a minimum count is necessary, don't you agree?
This is being considered for the future. Can't tell you when, though 
Bongman said:
Hi there heroes community! I have one question, how can i set a very dense terrain on my own template with RMG Template editor, if possible?
Yes. All you have to do is increase treasure density.
Popcioslav said:
I do know how to handle the templates itself, I just don't know how to set them up so I can actually try them out and play them.
To be able to select your template at the start of the game, you need to :
- use HD-mod
- name your template rmg.txt
- put it at HotA_RMGTemplates/YourTemplateName/rmg.txt (in your install folder)
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted January 04, 2018 11:15 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 23:17, 04 Jan 2018.
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No Chimera boo-hoo 
Jokes aside, great job HotA team, I will need to pick this up some time later, preferably after 1.5.1 is released. Hope you're still working on new factions, it's something that displays your talent in the best way possible. Cove was the single best thing to happen to the franchise after NWC disbanded...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 05, 2018 12:10 AM |
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Edited by Galaad at 00:23, 05 Jan 2018.
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For those too lazy to read the changelog (like me)
Pfff... 
Edit: OMG strike and stay option!!  
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Winston
Known Hero
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posted January 05, 2018 04:23 AM |
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Yay 1.5 
Does anybody have a detailed explanation of how magic research works? And an image of the new button in combat?
I really with HotA would stop trying to be moral police of how people should play the game by nerfing original game features or outright removing/banning them. It's fine to change the stats of your own stuff like Cove units, but if someone doesn't like that Galthran exists or that town portal is a spell, that's their personal problem and they should modify their own maps or just not use them instead of changing HotA so that you can only play the mod and get the new content if you also submit to having original game content removed or severely nerfed.
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Popcioslav
Hired Hero
The best H4 unit
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posted January 05, 2018 05:45 AM |
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Winston said:
Yay 1.5
Does anybody have a detailed explanation of how magic research works? And an image of the new button in combat?
It's not really detailed, but I hope it'll help you out. So basically from now on you might see a magic globe in your mage guild that looks like this: 
If you click on one of the spells you can see [url=https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319755823075164161/398691784785526785/3.png]this[/url] pop out and for the price depending on each spell on mage guild level you can [url=https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319755823075164161/398692002063187969/4.png]change it into one of the two new spells, either finishing the research instantly or not.[/url] If you don't finish the research instantly the globe will [url=https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319755823075164161/398692033730052108/5.png]glow and showcase said new spell.[/url]
New icon wise and combat wise, this is how it looks like Harpy for example 
- [url=https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/319755823075164161/398703639096590337/8.png]Here are all of the new icons I've found so far[/url]
EDIT - updated the icons with the caster's icon
Oh and thanks to everyone helping me understand how the RMG template editor works, I think I get it now.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted January 05, 2018 07:24 AM |
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 05, 2018 09:02 AM |
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So does that mean you can eventually learn all spells from a Mage Guild, if you have enough ressources?
Not too sure I like this invention to be honest...
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thGryphn
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted January 05, 2018 09:14 AM |
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phoenix4ever said:
So does that mean you can eventually learn all spells from a Mage Guild, if you have enough ressources?
Not too sure I like this invention to be honest...
No, you can't keep researching. Only once per spell slot. Which means you can at most learn double the number of spells offered, just like when you have two Mage Guilds from two towns.
I love this spell researching idea and it's done extremely well functionally and graphically
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 05, 2018 09:29 AM |
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Okay that's a bit more reasonable, but won't all players end up with the same spells then? Slow/Haste, Blind, Resurrection/Animate Dead, Town Portal, Fly and Dimension Door.
I like the random element of not always getting perfect spells, won't this make everything too easy and ruin the point of Scholar and Eagle Eye?
Does the AI even know how to take advantage of this system?
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Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted January 05, 2018 09:34 AM |
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HotA is going for making random maps suitable for multi. Just deal with it. In perfect multiplayer mode all players have the same builds, only tactic skills matter. Nobody likes Eagle Eye during playing multi So, if you want more randomeness in the game - solution is playing custom maps or playing maps with ERA/MoP/Myth/GoL addons.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 05, 2018 09:40 AM |
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Making everything "the same" is just boring to me. I agree things should be balanced, very balanced in fact, but there should still be an element of luck involved.
What is next step?, removing everything that has to do with morale or luck?
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Sav
Known Hero
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posted January 05, 2018 10:09 AM |
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Edited by Sav at 10:22, 05 Jan 2018.
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phoenix4ever said:
Okay that's a bit more reasonable, but won't all players end up with the same spells then? Slow/Haste, Blind, Resurrection/Animate Dead, Town Portal, Fly and Dimension Door.
I like the random element of not always getting perfect spells, won't this make everything too easy and ruin the point of Scholar and Eagle Eye?
Does the AI even know how to take advantage of this system?
There are many simpler ways to get all the spells needed: tomes of magic, Spellbinder's Hat, Pandora's Boxes, Spell Scrolls. It is not usual case to not get something (the most important: Dimension Door and Town Portal) from it, but in multiplayer this case is usually loss without a chance. Spell research provides a very expensive way to prevent it. It also returns deeper town building and the value of such elements as resources and mines to multiplayer.
In singleplayer you can just reload map many times before getting everything needed in Mage Guild without new mechanics.
This mechanic can be enabled/disabled for every town in map editor or enabled/disabled for the whole template in the template editor. So, map or template creator can decide, if he needs it. It also doesn't give the restricted spells (for town, or town type, or map) and doesn't allow changing town obligatory spells.
Eagle Eye is ruined with or without this system. Scholar remains useful for sure.
Yes, AI uses this system to obtain the most powerful spells it doesn't have in its towns.
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phoenix4ever
Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
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posted January 05, 2018 10:19 AM |
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Okay thanks for the answer Sav.
As I have'nt actually tried it, perhaps I'm just overly concerned.
Perhaps it's good for multiplayer, but I'm happy it can be turned off though.
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Zigge777
Hired Hero
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posted January 05, 2018 03:36 PM |
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Anyone else having problems with the template files in Win10?
Weirdest thing, I save the rmg.txt in a new folder under templates. But it doesnt show up in windows explorer, at all. It's like it's not there. But when I then try to open it again through the RMG editor it's magically there again.
I tried check disk and reboot. But nothing. Anyone?
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Sav
Known Hero
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posted January 05, 2018 03:47 PM |
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Edited by Sav at 17:13, 05 Jan 2018.
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Zigge777 said:
Anyone else having problems with the template files in Win10?
Weirdest thing, I save the rmg.txt in a new folder under templates. But it doesnt show up in windows explorer, at all. It's like it's not there. But when I then try to open it again through the RMG editor it's magically there again.
I tried check disk and reboot. But nothing. Anyone?
Maybe you placed it just in "HotA_RmgTemplates" folder, not in "HotA_RmgTemplates/[Template name]"?
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