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Thread: [Official Thread] HoMM 3: Horn of the Abyss - Announcements, Questions, Features This Popular Thread is 474 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 ... 90 180 270 360 450 ... 470 471 472 473 474 · «PREV / NEXT»
blob2
blob2


Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted March 17, 2021 02:54 PM
Edited by blob2 at 14:56, 17 Mar 2021.

nitocris said:
You guys can stop developing this mod now. By the time you guys finally release it, there will be jack all left of the player base.

Why put so much priority on cut scenes and storytelling. Are we playing this game to watch the cut scenes? You know what I do when I see a cutscene.

I press ESC.

You know what I do when I want to immerse myself in a good story. I go watch a movie or read a book.

Ridiculous.


Good troll.

The fact that they do new cutscenes is one of the clearest things that elevates HotA - it's made like a complete expansion. They could've done it the easy way by just reusing older cutscenes, yet they go all in which is great.

Besides it was stated that campaigns are not the only work in progress part.

So, happy Netflix watching for the next year, because I don't believe they will release it sooner then Fall 2021 or January 2022.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted March 17, 2021 03:39 PM

Maybe, but it's part of the reason why things are progressing so slow.
And for people that don't care about campaigns and cutscenes, it just makes the wait even longer.

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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted March 17, 2021 04:56 PM
Edited by The_Green_Drag at 17:04, 17 Mar 2021.

This really is getting absurd. Why canít they just stick to scheduled release dates like the professional companies, like at blizzard, Ubisoft, project red..etc.

I wonder if it has something to do with Life and having bills to pay. But damn it, I donít like cut scenes explaining stories as much as I like robots that go Pew Pew when they shoot. So what gives!!!

If they donít stop being so SELFISH and keep making excuses, then Iím gonna leave, and I mean that. (But iíll also check this forum multiple times daily regardless, and upon the release, I will act like I never complained and am only grateful)

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Gandalf196
Gandalf196


Famous Hero
posted March 17, 2021 05:15 PM

The_Green_Drag said:
This really is getting absurd. Why canít they just stick to scheduled release dates like the professional companies, like at blizzard, Ubisoft, project red..etc.

I wonder if it has something to do with Life and having bills to pay. But damn it, I donít like cut scenes explaining stories as much as I like robots that go Pew Pew when they shoot. So what gives!!!

If they donít stop being so SELFISH and keep making excuses, then Iím gonna leave, and I mean that. (But iíll also check this forum multiple times daily regardless, and upon the release, I will act like I never complained and am only grateful)


Man, they have been working for over ten years for free
ten years for free
let that sink in
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Opera
Opera


Hired Hero
posted March 17, 2021 05:20 PM

But You know guys that HOTA its most played by multiplayer people ?
And i say this as a person that play single,camaping,sceanrios. Im waiting for campaing so much but for me to be honest its not nesecery to heave 16 cinematics to the 8 missions capmaing becouse most story its tell by text in game. For me it will be better that Factory will be added as right now as city with units and camaping in 1.8 when its finished. I Just want to play new faction since its similar to Froge that i love. That my opininion that version 1.7 shoul be relleased January 2021 world will be better. Its very shame that HOTA threw city screen from streamfest 2019 shame that all this hard work goes no where

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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted March 17, 2021 06:02 PM

The_Green_Drag said:
Why canít they just stick to scheduled release dates like the professional companies, like at blizzard, Ubisoft, project red..etc.


Cause they don't get paid like Blizzard or Ubi does.

Cut them some slack, they are doing this for FREE - after their leader tragically died in an accident. We should be thankful HotA team did not abandon the mod right there.
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Hourglass
Hourglass


Famous Hero
posted March 17, 2021 06:13 PM

Phoenix4ever said:
Maybe, but it's part of the reason why things are progressing so slow.
And for people that don't care about campaigns and cutscenes, it just makes the wait even longer.


Seriously, are we even reading the same articles?

Basically, the way that I read the news is:

"Wasteland is done and currently exists in the game."
"Creatures are done."
"We have over 16 hero pictures, but we don't yet know which one of them we're going to use + how they the heroes are going to work exactly."
"Music is under work, but not ready"
"The phase one of making the city screen is nearing completion."
"Creature dwellings are not ready"
"Siege town screen is not ready, and will not be ready any time soon."
"Majority of the campaign videos are nearly done, but several of them needs to be made."
"One campaign map is done, others are in initiate stage"
"Code is most certainly not done."

How does one pull from this that it's the campaign that is somehow "dragging" the process, if core town elements are completely missing and not ready? Note that there are people with different talents working in different tasks - Romero will not suddenly jump into making maps or campaign videos, and a map maker/tester/translator or such cannot necessary help graphical team or Sav by any means. I don't see why they wouldn't release Factory if everything else would be done expect the campaigns which they would know to not be ready anytime soon. In Cove's case, the full campaign was released years later than the actual town.

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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted March 17, 2021 06:29 PM
Edited by The_Green_Drag at 18:32, 17 Mar 2021.

My post was sarcastic lol sorry if that wasnít clear

Btw, companies like blizz and Ubisoft release their stuff on schedule (more or less) with a ton of bugs and broken features. Thought that was a known issue tho, my bad lol

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RerryR
RerryR


Promising
Supreme Hero
Researching Magic
posted March 17, 2021 06:42 PM

To me, it looks like just one guy is doing all their coding and a lot depends on him.
Apart from that, it is okay to express his opinion, even if it is an unpopular one, like "why the hell does it take so long". Considering that in the last several years all that was releases was the new terrain and a few units afaik.
It is what it is, happy waiting guys.  

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blob2
blob2


Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted March 17, 2021 07:12 PM

RerryR said:
Apart from that, it is okay to express his opinion, even if it is an unpopular one, like "why the hell does it take so long". Considering that in the last several years all that was releases was the new terrain and a few units afaik.


The thing is, we are all waiting for the release and it's not an "unpopular" opinion. At one point I even thought the release is just around the corner, but it wasn't. That said, it doesn't mean someone should be rude about it...

Besides if they're still behind with music that might actually be a problem as Docent was the music composer.

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pellish
pellish


Famous Hero
posted March 18, 2021 10:53 AM

Hourglass said:
Phoenix4ever said:
Maybe, but it's part of the reason why things are progressing so slow.
And for people that don't care about campaigns and cutscenes, it just makes the wait even longer.


Seriously, are we even reading the same articles?

I'm certain Phoenix is a troll. However else he manages to consistently have the worst takes on everything in this thread is beyond me.

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Phoenix4ever
Phoenix4ever


Legendary Hero
Heroes is love, Heroes is life
posted March 18, 2021 01:09 PM

I am sorry, guess I'm being impatient.
I'll shut up now.

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gatecrasher
gatecrasher


Famous Hero
posted March 18, 2021 02:29 PM
Edited by gatecrasher at 14:32, 18 Mar 2021.

I find this pushy discussions most intolerable.
I am a contributor to multiple Free Software/Open Source projects and over there years I've seen many free time project maintainers losing their motivation and throwing in the towel due to an repititively pushy online "community".

One thing is for sure, this kind of demotivating posts will never accelerate things.

And yeah, what Phoenix is doing in this thread is softcore hatespeech to put it frankly.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
Undorcover modder
posted March 18, 2021 07:25 PM

That's why it's a good thing sometimes to push a very solid concept under the cover for a while, without having the "community" barge in.
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RevanFan
RevanFan

Tavern Dweller
posted March 19, 2021 05:12 PM

Seeing the recent posts in this thread that have been pushy and demanding at best and hateful at worst, I felt compelled to register for this site after following as a guest for a long time.

I want to say that I, for one, think that this mod has revitalized my interest in this game more than pretty much any mod I've ever played, and is one of the greatest mods ever made for any game, easily. Do I agree with every decision made in the mod? No (I'd love to be able to play without the nerfs, for instance), but I love a vast majority of what it offers.

I've worked on mods for other games, and I can tell you that it is HARD work, it takes a ton of time, and you get no compensation and very little reward for it. It's an act of love, frankly, for the game in question, and should be applauded.

Take all the time you need for the Factory update, and I'll be there the second it's out, ready to download it and enjoy it.
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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
Undorcover modder
posted March 19, 2021 05:54 PM


I mainly agree with you. Working on mods is indeed hard work. But with clear aim, guidance and determination, anything is possible.
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StrangeFin
StrangeFin

Tavern Dweller
posted March 19, 2021 05:58 PM
Edited by StrangeFin at 17:59, 19 Mar 2021.

RevanFan said:
Seeing the recent posts in this thread that have been pushy and demanding at best and hateful at worst, I felt compelled to register for this site after following as a guest for a long time.

I want to say that I, for one, think that this mod has revitalized my interest in this game more than pretty much any mod I've ever played, and is one of the greatest mods ever made for any game, easily. Do I agree with every decision made in the mod? No (I'd love to be able to play without the nerfs, for instance), but I love a vast majority of what it offers.

I've worked on mods for other games, and I can tell you that it is HARD work, it takes a ton of time, and you get no compensation and very little reward for it. It's an act of love, frankly, for the game in question, and should be applauded.

Take all the time you need for the Factory update, and I'll be there the second it's out, ready to download it and enjoy it.


Let my first post be to say that I totally agree with the above said. HoTA is an unbelievably good mod which extended the life of one of the best games of our childhoods. All this needy thrashing of every delay/change the team does is really, I mean REALLY tiering to read. And always by the same couple of poeple. (mainly)

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
Undorcover modder
posted March 19, 2021 06:02 PM

Please don't quote such big posts, it's been a rule here for a long while. @Ping the user instead.
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StrangeFin
StrangeFin

Tavern Dweller
posted March 19, 2021 06:12 PM

Just by scrolling up, I can say that you're wrong.

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FirePaladin
FirePaladin


Legendary Hero
Undorcover modder
posted March 19, 2021 06:31 PM

I apologize, those guys are hotheaded and never remember it (with the exception of blob2 who had to quote it bc it was a new page).
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