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Thread: New graphics for WoG This thread is 17 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 · «PREV / NEXT»
Salamandre
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posted February 28, 2014 02:26 AM

Actually the dollar is for laugh. In wog the interest the bank asks is 30%, for such thing any banker would be lynched in real world. I was trying to add claws to the tree, claws asking for the homeless to come and borrow. I have no other idea for a bank, a bank by itself has no place in H3 world, so what to do?

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artu
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posted February 28, 2014 02:34 AM

Maybe something like a vault but from stone. Like a well protected, thick walled rectangular building with bars.

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fred79
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posted February 28, 2014 03:01 AM
Edited by fred79 at 03:17, 28 Feb 2014.

this is the work that i've done for the adventure cave:



and the work i just did for the bank:



it's funny, after lightening and fixing this def, am i just now realizing it was made from the wizard's castle, same as my Fear castle.



well? what about these two? i realize the bank doesn't say "bank"(i never use the object like that, anyway). the adventure cave certainly says "danger", though. and dangerous=adventure.


Edit: improved the bank to standard.

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Salamandre
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posted February 28, 2014 04:51 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 04:56, 28 Feb 2014.

Fred, your adventure cave modifications are for the best, but the layout around also. That cave will replace treasuries, mystical gardens and scripts when wogify runs, this means it can be anywhere. And its layout is only for mountains.

The bank also looks better in your version. Does it suggest anything related to money, borrow, steal, richness? Nope. I much dislike the "bank" original graphics, they picked it in a ghetto like. You can sharp and lighten as much as you want, even a jew would not guess is a bank.

But thanks for your suggestions, Artu and Bloodsucker as well. I listen.

Meanwhile, here is my last try for my bank.


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Orzie
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posted February 28, 2014 06:37 AM
Edited by Orzie at 06:39, 28 Feb 2014.

fred79 said:
this is the work that i've done for the adventure cave:



and the work i just did for the bank:



it's funny, after lightening and fixing this def, am i just now realizing it was made from the wizard's castle, same as my Fear castle.



well? what about these two? i realize the bank doesn't say "bank"(i never use the object like that, anyway). the adventure cave certainly says "danger", though. and dangerous=adventure.


Edit: improved the bank to standard.


I actually think your objects fit the game quite nicely. Even with the fact that this tower is made from a wizard castle - it still has enough differences with the original I think. Love the color solution, it reminds me of the dungeons from a good old game Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim. You can probably to vary the slope a bit to make it finally differ from the original.

You can be a good graphic contributor to 3.59, dude.

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fred79
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posted February 28, 2014 09:30 AM
Edited by fred79 at 09:52, 28 Feb 2014.

Salamandre said:
Fred, your adventure cave modifications are for the best, but the layout around also. That cave will replace treasuries, mystical gardens and scripts when wogify runs, this means it can be anywhere. And its layout is only for mountains.


well, if that's a flaw with the original WoG version, i can't take the blame for that. i just do what i do: add graphics, or improve them.

Salamandre said:
The bank also looks better in your version. Does it suggest anything related to money, borrow, steal, richness? Nope. I much dislike the "bank" original graphics, they picked it in a ghetto like. You can sharp and lighten as much as you want, even a jew would not guess is a bank.


lol. again, original flaw, not mine. and i already stated the same thing, but you can always reiterate the obvious, i guess. to me, the old bank looks more like a bank than a tree with a dollar sign over it(however, your explanation of the clutching claws made me lol. ).

i think that the old(now improved) bank can be worked with. i like artu's suggestion, about the fortifications. i'm sure something can be done in that vein. maybe i could combine artu's ideas with your dollar sign idea, like how some of the castle dwellings have a sign describing what can be hired there. this time, instead of a sword, an insignia for money could be used. although, using coins could be a little problematic... ideas, or pics for inspiration, anyone?

nevermind. i have something already.


@ orzie: yeah, i thought of changing the hill base on the bank, and giving it the whiter grass rock mountains instead of the swamp mountains. i only improved a little of the hill itself, most of the work went toward the building, and some to the road leading to it, as well as the entranceway.

this is just a little project for me; working with WoG 3.59, HotA, the Succession Wars, or any big project for that matter, would require investing more time, and would also be more binding, as my work would be more required/important in a bigger project. i still have college to prepare for. thanks for the kind words, though. if my hand is still useable after i get my feet wet with the business world, i will be sure to lend it.

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RomanZhou
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posted February 28, 2014 10:14 AM

Great, I'm looking forward to it£°£®Google Translate£©

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fred79
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posted February 28, 2014 01:48 PM

current work on the bank:



i've got the mountain base switched out, added gold coins, a barred castle gate, as well as bars on the windows. i have yet to add a gated fence. feedback so far?

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Macron1
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posted February 28, 2014 03:08 PM

fred79 said:
current work on the bank:



i've got the mountain base switched out, added gold coins, a barred castle gate, as well as bars on the windows. i have yet to add a gated fence. feedback so far?


Gold is not good. I think WOG bank is not good at all. It's better to find some wooden Wild West bank from some game and use it instead.

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Orzie
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posted February 28, 2014 03:24 PM

Quote:
It's better to find some wooden Wild West bank from some game and use it instead

It's not better. WoG had enough of stolen graphics which don't fit, earning the bad side for his reputation along with its good sides connected with programming. And I hope they will be replaced by the new ones in 3.59, decently drawn this time.

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Salamandre
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posted February 28, 2014 03:50 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 16:05, 28 Feb 2014.

The problem is that original bank is constructed using a tower model, thus any house diagonally oriented will not fit in same passability. So the range of objects to search is very limited. If nothing is found, I keep the tree, the original bank seems impossible to metamorphose for me.

 

Will continue to search but for now I consider bank done (two variants, one with and one without the $$). Fred, thanks, but at least your gold could have shinies, similar to piles, mines. Without basic animations, you can't add effects, they look dead.
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fred79
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posted February 28, 2014 04:02 PM
Edited by fred79 at 16:53, 28 Feb 2014.

lol, i didn't like the gold addition either, i was just trying to meet in the middle with the ideas on the table. if the object was liked, then i would have animated the gold to standard. since it isn't, i will just isolate and animate the gold by itself and use it for something else(either as-is for a resource, or to add to the dragon's gold pile). like i said, i don't use the bank object like a bank, but for other things, anyway.

well, i gave it a go. back to work for me.


Edit: i improved the gold coins def. they will be useable indeed. i gave a last go at the "bank" bank, and gave it stained glass windows instead of bars, but i still like my 1st revision better, so that's the one that stays in my .lod.

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Orzie
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posted February 28, 2014 05:02 PM
Edited by Orzie at 17:04, 28 Feb 2014.

Well, IMO the gold coins can be darkened (for the true color of gold is not bright), and the castle can be considered done. What function do you intend it to have, actually?

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fred79
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posted February 28, 2014 05:55 PM

i both darkened and sharpened the gold coins. as for the "bank", i use it for whatever i want, just like everything else. it helps that i don't play random maps, as the random map generator makes ugly-ass maps not fit for a 5 year old.

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Orzie
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posted February 28, 2014 06:01 PM

Can you try to do something with the classic Random Town def? I think you bear cool skills to make it really fit to the game. Probably, unusual coloring and/or cutting to pieces can help, like you did with this one.

And yes, I am the castle maniac. I love castles. Not HMM3 towns, but castles in general.

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fred79
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posted February 28, 2014 06:19 PM

Orzie said:
Can you try to do something with the classic Random Town def? I think you bear cool skills to make it really fit to the game. Probably, unusual coloring and/or cutting to pieces can help, like you did with this one.

And yes, I am the castle maniac. I love castles. Not HMM3 towns, but castles in general.


the random town def? you mean the marker for a castle, that you don't even see in-game? why would you want to change that?

if it's a reskin you're wanting, i think it would be better done by someone who uses a fully functional 3d program. an entire reskin done in photoshop, with that much surface area to cover, would easily be an eyesore.

unless you mean, just reshape the gray area. again, i wouldn't see the point, as you wouldn't see it in-game.

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Orzie
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posted February 28, 2014 06:23 PM

Well, I meant just taking the def as the example to take some pieces from it probably, to make a fully functional object of another purpose.

If someone is familiar with 3D, I think, it will be better for him to design his own castle/object instead, because it would take the same effort but his work would be fully original

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fred79
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posted February 28, 2014 06:27 PM

oh, i gotcha. duh.

btw, if you have seen as many objects as i have, you would reconsider your thoughts on "originality". everything's been pretty much done already, in some form or another.

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Bersy
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posted February 28, 2014 06:52 PM

Val, did you try to put some serious closed chest on the bank? Current opened variant is boring (we're accustomed to it). What concerns dollar, no Americans in WoG, please [yes, WoG is democratic game with gays and own president] )))

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Ivorrus
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posted March 01, 2014 11:15 AM

Salamandre said:

Other possibilities as starting material (not worked yet) but less fun:
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