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Wellplay
Wellplay


Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
posted February 09, 2015 07:53 PM

Galaad said:
Avonu said:
Yes, Sheriff.

Ashan strikes again!


Galaad ranting continues.

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Zombi_Wizzard
Zombi_Wizzard


Famous Hero
posted February 09, 2015 07:54 PM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 20:02, 09 Feb 2015.

Actualy ... the curve and "weight" on his arm isn't that big of a deal. There are other things tho, that don't make much snese if you would be talking of realisticaly going to battle dressed like this:

- Weights on his arms are supposed to be armor, and armor has been used historicaly a lot, indeed if made correctly it could cover whole arm and not be much of a liability when swinging .... however :
        - It dose not cover whole arm. Which means it's more or less useless. It would be better to remove it alltogether, or cover full arms, or indeed just lower part of arm, till the elbow, fully.
        - Sword ... is a bit too bulky. why does it have a bump.... oh I get it it's supposed to be kopesh ... but it's not. Kopesh was heavy for it's size, yet was a lot smaller. Still it's not terrible by any means. I would say it's fine ... BUT ... he has 2 why? Isn't that dagger enough, to be more versatile in defence and close quarter combat? Or ... a shield. Would be usefull with lack of armor ... what about arrow protection?
        - Yes, show off that abbs to the ladys, I'm sure in middle of battle noone would think to stab you directly there
        - Why is guard of his sword facing towards his hand? Is that why he's wearing gloves? so his hand is safe from his own handle? Look at it in the arm he's holding sword, that spike is milimeters from his hand. Slight curve in guard for decoration is OK, but i wouldn't wanna wield this for prolonged periods of time.
       - He's supposed to be Hero, or indeed a general of mighty army ... he must issue orders constantly ... this is why he has a cloth over his mouth. It's so that enemy might not hear what he's saying Oh what? I'm wrong? well maybe it's because of face protection ... you know from arrows. Or maybe he's ugly and hiding his face. (yeah yeah, I know it's for sand and what not ... but still, would be nice if it would be made out of chain-mail, so it has some arrow protection wouldn't it?)
       - He's loaded. I mean this guy must be seriously rich. His entire armor is made of silk and gold. Even his 2 swords have golden hilts and golden inlays. I bet owning one such sword would make you quite wealthy. Yet he's carrying these in battle like they are common worthelss things. Not to mention gold is quite soft metal, not suitable for armor at all. I know. It's for strategy. If he is killed then all enemies would start fightin amongst themselves who would loot his corpse.

But still - I horenstly like this artwork. I'ts more of a joke post. Anyway ...

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Kimarous
Kimarous


Supreme Hero
posted February 09, 2015 07:57 PM
Edited by Kimarous at 20:04, 09 Feb 2015.

Wellplay said:
Stevie said:
Sheriff?!!

@lordgraa on blog

...Sheriff - The word comes from Arabic sharif meaning "noble", from sharafa meaning "to be highborn". So... If you rename the last to "Sherif" or "Sharif" it would be much more better IMHO.

Um... apparently not...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharif

Quote:
Sharīf Asharif or Alsharif (Arabic: شريف‎ šarīf) or Chérif (Darija: Chorfa) is a traditional Arab title in origin, the word is an adjective meaning "noble", "highborn". The feminine singular is sharifa(h) (Arabic: شريفة‎ šarīfah). The masculine plural is Ashraf (Arabic: اشراف‎ ʾašrāf).

The word has no etymological connection with the English term sheriff, which comes from the Old English word scīrgerefa, meaning "shire-reeve", the local reeve (enforcement agent) of the king in the shire (county).[1]

Personally, I'm with those who think the "Sheriff" should be renamed "Sharif."

That said, artwork is nice.

EDIT: Man, I adjust to things quickly. I'm apparently already over the "...wat?" factor of Sheriff and have already started to accept it.

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
posted February 09, 2015 08:04 PM

Zombi_Wizzard said:
- He's loaded. I mean this guy must be seriously rich. His entire armor is made of silk and gold. Even his 2 swords have golden hilts and golden inlays. I bet owning one such sword would make you quite wealthy. Yet he's carrying these in battle like they are common worthelss things. Not to mention gold is quite soft metal, not suitable for armor at all. I know. It's for strategy. If he is killed then all enemies would start fightin amongst themselves who would loot his corpse.


"You even read fool! That guy be an Alchemist, He change yo sand to bling, he got cash like nobody, hell I bet his teeth are pure gold, Gangsta bro!!"

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kiryu133
kiryu133


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted February 09, 2015 08:21 PM

Zombi_Wizzard said:
Actualy ... the curve and "weight" on his arm isn't that big of a deal. There are other things tho, that don't make much snese if you would be talking of realisticaly going to battle dressed like this:

- Weights on his arms are supposed to be armor, and armor has been used historicaly a lot, indeed if made correctly it could cover whole arm and not be much of a liability when swinging .... however :

      - It dose not cover whole arm. Which means it's more or less useless. It would be better to remove it alltogether, or cover full arms, or indeed just lower part of arm, till the elbow, fully.

firstly it's gold which is useless as armour, secondly, being a metal it will get very hot under the desert sun as well as being very heavy. Leather or cloth is better in a desert environment.

       
Zombi_Wizzard said:
- Sword ... is a bit too bulky. why does it have a bump.... oh I get it it's supposed to be kopesh ... but it's not. Kopesh was heavy for it's size, yet was a lot smaller. Still it's not terrible by any means. I would say it's fine ... BUT ... he has 2 why? Isn't that dagger enough, to be more versatile in defence and close quarter combat? Or ... a shield. Would be usefull with lack of armor ... what about arrow protection?

When it comes to desert combat being able to withstand the heat will get you further than straight up protection. big or heavy shields would heat up and be too bulky to effectively use in extreme heat. leather or small shields on the other hand...

besides, arabians with two swords are pretty classic and it does look cool
     
Zombi_Wizzard said:
 - Yes, show off that abbs to the ladys, I'm sure in middle of battle noone would think to stab you directly there


as previously stated he IS part of a desert faction so armour isn't the brightest idea. it's also nice seeing the male be more eye-candy than the female so i'm perfectly fine with it even if it makes little sense.

     
Zombi_Wizzard said:
 - Why is guard of his sword facing towards his hand? Is that why he's wearing gloves? so his hand is safe from his own handle? Look at it in the arm he's holding sword, that spike is milimeters from his hand. Slight curve in guard for decoration is OK, but i wouldn't wanna wield this for prolonged periods of time.

yeah, true.

     
Zombi_Wizzard said:
- He's supposed to be Hero, or indeed a general of mighty army ... he must issue orders constantly ... this is why he has a cloth over his mouth. It's so that enemy might not hear what he's saying Oh what? I'm wrong? well maybe it's because of face protection ... you know from arrows. Or maybe he's ugly and hiding his face. (yeah yeah, I know it's for sand and what not ... but still, would be nice if it would be made out of chain-mail, so it has some arrow protection wouldn't it?)


sand protection mate. probably removes it for orders and such, but it looks cool so what the heck.


   
Zombi_Wizzard said:
    - He's loaded. I mean this guy must be seriously rich. His entire armor is made of silk and gold. Even his 2 swords have golden hilts and golden inlays. I bet owning one such sword would make you quite wealthy. Yet he's carrying these in battle like they are common worthelss things. Not to mention gold is quite soft metal, not suitable for armor at all. I know. It's for strategy. If he is killed then all enemies would start fightin amongst themselves who would loot his corpse.

But still - I horenstly like this artwork. I'ts more of a joke post. Anyway ...


haha, yeah

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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted February 09, 2015 08:38 PM

First post here! I have been following this thread since I found out about Heroes 7. Long time fan here, since Heroes 1. My blog name is SlumbrousShip5.

For anyone interested I will go over a few likes/dislikes I have about the game.

The good:
-Factions
Haven looks excellent. It is like an updated version of Heroes 2 and 3 with its serious look. It has a nice charm to it and I really look forward to enjoying a Ubisoft Haven for once. Academy also looks very nice, especially the titans. I really hated academy in h5 simply because I did not want to look at those gargoyles, djinns, and titans, they just looked so bad, so I am excited for their return. Regarding necro, visuals aside, I will put them in the 'good' section because I do not mind the spider as a core unit and I like the lamasu. I also think the grim rider is a cool idea along with the option of the classic bone dragon. Dungeon is decent and I have high hopes for stronghold.

-Gameplay
Even though not a whole lot is revealed, its looking good so far. Back to the core four stats is a good thing. Necro sounds like they will feel like playing necro this time (even if they don't look the part) and I am glad to hear it will not be ability overload this time. I wish there were less spell schools but I would rather have too many than too few.

The bad:
-Factions
For me, slyvan is greatest downfall of this game. They were my favorite in h1-h4 and now I wish they were not in the game at all. I am not looking forward to a pixie and its h5 alt upgrade being slpit into two seperate units, making the core tier two faries and an elf. I really dislike shirtless elves with swords being promoted to an Elite just as I dislike the constant promotions given to the treant (also Pit-lord and centaur for that matter) throughout the games. And the deer....Its choices like these that make me wish Ubisoft did not have the game rights.
On a side note, I hate that they bring back academy, and just copy paste the same line up that faction has always had. Then they bring back slyvan, and completely change almost everything about it. They didn't even give us a chance to vote for a classic line up.  

-Gameplay
I am very concerned with the lack of fliers in this game. My worst fear is that the factions are all going to have similar line ups like in h6 (and h5 imo) and the same basic strategy will work for all of them. So far Haven, Sylvan, and Dungeon are way to similar, all sharing the same basic unit types. I reject the idea of all the factions sharing any kind of unit. And in this case the shared unit is Elite shooters. Every faction has one and only one faction left to be revealed....and we all know how 'fond' Ubisoft is with their centaurs. Faction diversity should be a priority for the devs. But it may already be to late. Now I just hope that stronghold will fill the 'best elite = flier' spot as well keep elite shooters out of the line up.
With the 3 tier system I honestly thought they would take a better approach this time around. Three types of units, three tiers, six factions. One faction heavy on shooters, one faction heavy on fliers, one faction heavy on walkers. The other three factions would be more balanced.

Well that's my two cents on the game thus far. Thanks for reading.
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fuChris
fuChris


Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
posted February 09, 2015 08:38 PM

I wish they would stop giving every model can opener swords. Is it too much to ask for a simple sabre or a normal kopesh?
Next thing we know Sylvan heroes are gong to have lances that are spirals and Stronghold ones have axes with giant shuriken heads.
I kind of dread what kind of weapons dungeon heroes are going to have... Probably something like chakrams with swiss army knives and chainsaws on them and that is probably just going to be the guard.
Better not give Ubi any more ideas though.
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Sleeping_Sun
Sleeping_Sun


Promising
Famous Hero
Townscreen Architect
posted February 09, 2015 08:54 PM
Edited by Sleeping_Sun at 20:55, 09 Feb 2015.

Sheriffs indeed.


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kiryu133
kiryu133


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted February 09, 2015 09:00 PM

Sleeping_Sun said:
Sheriffs indeed.



i find this very awesome and rather sexy.

i approve

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Avirosb
Avirosb


Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
posted February 09, 2015 09:03 PM

kiryu133 said:
he could still stand too lose those (albeit fashionable) solid gold bracelets. they really don't serve any real purpose other than weighing the arms down and burning them even more.

those are overkill, otherwise fantastic.
Well you know...

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GenyaArikado
GenyaArikado


Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
posted February 09, 2015 09:22 PM
Edited by GenyaArikado at 21:25, 09 Feb 2015.

remember that everyone in ashan wears impractical armor so its ok, they all balance each other

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Avonu
Avonu


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
posted February 09, 2015 09:46 PM
Edited by Avonu at 21:47, 09 Feb 2015.

Sleeping_Sun said:
Sheriffs indeed.

http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag183/Sleeping_Sun_91/Academy_Sheriff_Female_zpsa2561eb6.jpg
http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag183/Sleeping_Sun_91/Academy_Sheriff_Male_zpsa454e437.jpg


I wonder why poeple so easly forget about Nottingham?
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Alex_Yakub
Alex_Yakub


Famous Hero
posted February 09, 2015 09:56 PM

Well, those heroes look fine to me (although sheriffs, commonly associated with american cowboys, appearing in arabian-themed faction sounds funny)
Can't wait till devs reveal magic heroes of the most magical faction
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Kimarous
Kimarous


Supreme Hero
posted February 09, 2015 10:09 PM

Avonu said:
I wonder why poeple so easly forget about Nottingham?


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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted February 09, 2015 10:30 PM

The_Green_Drag said:
First post here! I have been following this thread since I found out about Heroes 7. Long time fan here, since Heroes 1. My blog name is SlumbrousShip5.


Oh, you! Welcome!

Btw, I voted Fury
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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted February 09, 2015 10:54 PM

Stevie said:
The_Green_Drag said:
First post here! I have been following this thread since I found out about Heroes 7. Long time fan here, since Heroes 1. My blog name is SlumbrousShip5.


Oh, you! Welcome!

Btw, I voted Fury


YOU!!FURY?!?!

While I preferred Balance...I was not too fond of any of the given line ups. The whole slyvan vote felt rushed imo.

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A8T
A8T


Adventuring Hero
posted February 09, 2015 11:30 PM

I think the designs look awesome, though I wonder which of the three classes revealed they represent (I assume alchemist, but that's a guess)?
The way they set up the heroes is interesting: Offence, Defence and Economist. And I do wonder what Metamagic is?

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Wellplay
Wellplay


Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
posted February 09, 2015 11:34 PM
Edited by Wellplay at 23:35, 09 Feb 2015.

A8T said:
I think the designs look awesome, though I wonder which of the three classes revealed they represent (I assume alchemist, but that's a guess)?
The way they set up the heroes is interesting: Offence, Defence and Economist. And I do wonder what Metamagic is?



Metamagic - The wizards mastery of magic allows them to trigger synergies between spells to unleash even more power and destruction on the battlefield.

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted February 09, 2015 11:43 PM

I'd also go for a rename to "Sharif" instead of "Sheriff". It sounds ... odd. Besides, where's the deputy?

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Sorts
Sorts


Known Hero
posted February 10, 2015 02:59 AM

It felt weird at first but i actually like Sheriff as a Academy hero, sot of a combination or the Medieval Sheriff and the wild west one. Especially since Seven Cities/Silver leagues lands are mostly deserts and wastelands.

Shariff would be a bad name, because most people wpuld be starting to read it as Sheriff and changing it now would just feel as a nad attempt to fic the name.

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