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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 24, 2014 11:10 AM |
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Yes, it's not like it might reflect poorly on their company or anything.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 11:13 AM |
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fuChris said:
It will be more interesting since people here are professional liars.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 24, 2014 11:14 AM |
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No lies; puffery.
Y'know, like EA does.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 11:22 AM |
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Edited by Stevie at 11:23, 24 Oct 2014.
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Random Heroes fans? False background? Professional liars? Some really bold statements there, care to back them up?
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 24, 2014 11:48 AM |
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Wow.. I'm am amazed.. amazed about how negative, selfish, un-understanding and damned right stoopid some people here are.
You want them to give you 100% information on a project that isn't even in the testing phase? Whose core elements are still being designed, created and might change several times?
You have approx 350+ days until the game will even be near releasing, and you act like it would be tomorrow. Do you expect them to tell you each and every detail there done that day? Do you think they have nothing better to do then to feed you your delcius info cake? Do you think they don't have enough work on the game as it is?
You should be happy that their even doing this shadow council stuff. Giving you a steady info about the game, and even letting you decide what is going to be in it. I don't see many games doing something like this.
I don't know about you, but I would like the devs, all of them, to focus on the game, and let CM like Kimmundi give us some useless info, flavor texts etc., so the game won't end up as bad as his younger brother.
The info is not useful most of the time, but do you really expect them to think of approx. 280+ post just to keep you happy? Don't make me sick.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted October 24, 2014 12:01 PM |
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Just wait until they do an interview to JVC or someone like him and they'll wet their pants 
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted October 24, 2014 12:02 PM |
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Stevie said:
Random Heroes fans? False background? Professional liars? Some really bold statements there, care to back them up?
Yes random heroes fan. They are "Community Developers" so not even real developers. They are just some random dudes on Ubis payroll who happen to like heroes.
Dave_Jame said:
Do you expect them to tell you each and every detail there done that day? Do you think they have nothing better to do then to feed you your delcius info cake?
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The info is not useful most of the time, but do you really expect them to think of approx. 280+ post just to keep you happy? Don't make me sick.
I expect nothing. That is the only reaction Ubi is going to get out of me. But featuring completely useless information on the main site as "News" makes me question how they spend their development budget AGAIN.
I know posting useless BS on social media sites is a very millennial thing and they try to cash in on that generation as well, not just the generation that grew up on H1/2/3/4, but I don't have to like it.
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"Now I am become Chris, the destroyer of worlds." - Robert Oppenheimer.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 24, 2014 12:15 PM |
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fuChris said:
I expect nothing. That is the only reaction Ubi is going to get out of me. But featuring completely useless information on the main site as "News" makes me question how they spend their development budget AGAIN.
I know posting useless BS on social media sites is a very millennial thing and they try to cash in on that generation as well, not just the generation that grew up on H1/2/3/4, but I don't have to like it.
I did not mention a single name, but still some react. That means they are aware of what they do.. So tell me. If you expect nothing, then why are you here? Why do you have the need to comment? Your comments are not nice, or creative, they are hateful only for the reason of being hateful. Nobody forced you to fallow that site. Or even be interested in the game until it comes out. So either you want the game to be good, but your inner anger and hate just can't let you have a positive motivation, or you pitiful person, a troll who hates for the solo reason of his inner hate, that he alone can defeat. Which are you?
Everybody can have his own opinion, but an opinion, as bad as it gets, says something. What do post such as yours say? That H6 was generally bad? Yes we all know that. That after 10 years you can't get over your heart that Ubi has the brand? That you will never acknowledge that they even made one or two good games in that time?
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted October 24, 2014 12:28 PM |
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You are making a handfull of assumptions, none of which I have to react to but calling someone a pitiful troll undermines any point you tried to make.
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"Now I am become Chris, the destroyer of worlds." - Robert Oppenheimer.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 24, 2014 12:37 PM |
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fuChris said:
You are making a handfull of assumptions, none of which I have to react to but calling someone a pitiful troll undermines any point you tried to make.
Atleast I try to make a point ;-), and I don't recall using the words "Pitiful" and "Troll" together :-P
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 24, 2014 12:38 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Just wait until they do an interview to JVC or someone like him and they'll wet their pants
Sir Caneghem for Heroes 7 2015 
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted October 24, 2014 12:45 PM |
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And what is so hard to grasp on the point that how Ubi manages/mismanages the community and the news cycle rubs people the wrong way? If they want to be more involved with the community then they should join here. Not only Marzhin is allowed community interaction. I'm sure people would welcome them with open arms me included. That is why this site - Heroes Community - exists. The Game development site is for game development news.
I think I made my point so no more posts from me on this.
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"Now I am become Chris, the destroyer of worlds." - Robert Oppenheimer.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 12:49 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Just wait until they do an interview to JVC or someone like him and they'll wet their pants
héhéhé
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 24, 2014 01:06 PM |
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fuChris said:
And what is so hard to grasp on the point that how Ubi manages/mismanages the community and the news cycle rubs people the wrong way? If they want to be more involved with the community then they should join here. Not only Marzhin is allowed community interaction. I'm sure people would welcome them with open arms me included. That is why this site - Heroes Community - exists. The Game development site is for game development news.
I think I made my point so no more posts from me on this.
Is this a joke? Do you read these forums? Have you noticed how many different opinions, how many fanatic people with 0 chance of an opinion change are here? And you think, that with all their work they would even care about talking to people like you, who only are here to shun their work, you did not even had a chance to try out?
How is it rubbing the community in the wrong way? We have a general source of legit information that we can distribute between our fansites, talk about it on the source on a general level, or on the fansites in a more detailed or theoretical level.
Btw tell me what is more logical? Try to fallow 20+ different fansites and forum, all in different languages, or make one general channel that works as a semi official one, and give everybody the option to join? Can you imagine how it would be, if they would have to communicate on each fansite directly? How much time it would cost? Time Marzhin could invest in a better story or an extra map. Things you care about? And how much resources would it cost? Resources that you are afraid are wasted how of them would be wasted if they gave the news out individually rather than via a central channel?
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The Game development site is for game development news.
And this. The game development site si for things connected to the games development. And I'm sorry that I'm not a soul-less robot, but the people who work on the game ARE PART OF ITS DEVELOPMENT. I know it's hard to see their faces behind all those lines of code, graphics and flower text, but this had to be done by people. And not all of them are Romero who has almost an iconic status. I think it makes them feel nice to see their names, and people actually directly thanking them rather than some corporate brand/company name.
Or in your case. Makes them sick, due to no respect to their work.
Is it to much to ask for some recognition? Other than a line in the end credits that most people don't even read?
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 01:16 PM |
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I think your attempt to reason is a shot in the dark at best, DJ. The guy believes that community managers are just random guys happening to like Heroes. He doesn't view them as part of the Heroes VII team even though they both mentioned it. Or that must be part of the fake background and professional lies theories that he came up with out of his own mind with no real evidence.
Just leave him, haters are gonna hate.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted October 24, 2014 01:27 PM |
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Indifference is worse than hate when it comes to games.
Look at Celestial Heavens, they've just about given up on the game.
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted October 24, 2014 01:33 PM |
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On the whole development budget thing, is there money being wasted? Does it cost alot to give us this information, even though not linked to the actual development of the game? I don't really think so.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted October 24, 2014 01:41 PM |
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Avirosb said:
Indifference is worse than hate when it comes to games.
Indeed, many old players remains H3 and lost interest when Ubi took over, resulting as silence and abstinence from their side.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted October 24, 2014 01:45 PM |
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fuChris said:
Stevie said:
Random Heroes fans? False background? Professional liars? Some really bold statements there, care to back them up?
Yes random heroes fan. They are "Community Developers" so not even real developers. They are just some random dudes on Ubis payroll who happen to like heroes.
Dave_Jame said:
Do you expect them to tell you each and every detail there done that day? Do you think they have nothing better to do then to feed you your delcius info cake?
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The info is not useful most of the time, but do you really expect them to think of approx. 280+ post just to keep you happy? Don't make me sick.
I expect nothing. That is the only reaction Ubi is going to get out of me. But featuring completely useless information on the main site as "News" makes me question how they spend their development budget AGAIN.
I know posting useless BS on social media sites is a very millennial thing and they try to cash in on that generation as well, not just the generation that grew up on H1/2/3/4, but I don't have to like it.
Dude, like, almost every developing game i have ever seen has one of those posts on the official site. That doesnt make them any less professional. We know your opinion comes from a place of resentment and you are allowed to express it but we're also allowed to call out on the ignorance of it.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted October 24, 2014 01:55 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 14:00, 24 Oct 2014.
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When information is scarce, discontent follows... and leads to flame wars.
I'm not interested in Duke Ivan's history so I don't read those texts, but for some people those things are interesting (mainly because they like Marzhins work). I'm also disappointed with the lack of "concrete" information, but there is a reason for it (early development phase), and we have to accept it. I'm also somewhat a designer so I know the feeling of releasing sth that is half-finished, so I can understand why the devs won't show as the line-ups for instance. As of now things are simple: we have to wait.
Ubi's policy about budgeting etc is a different matter... come to think of it, this could be a situation in which Ubi is "forcing" Limbic into activity saying something in the lines of "we announced the game (oh look s*it happened) and fans are snowing for info... do something!". That's why guys at Limbic are salvaging whatever they can get their hands on and are putting it on the site/forums, even if this info lacks in substance.
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
