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Wellplay
Wellplay


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Poland Stronk
posted January 23, 2015 06:24 PM

TD said:
So only good news you got is that we get decent champions, except they both look like some warcraft units to me. HAVE YOU SERIOUSLY NOT SEEN HOW MUCH PEOPLE HATED THOSE snowING METH HEADS!?!? Sorry for the caps, but YOU snowING RAPED AND NEUTERED NECROPOLIS!!! I can't wait to see how you will rape the orcs, sylvan and dungeon after seeing this. Until now I was kinda hopeful, but seeing this snow is making me see red! Sorry for the language, you just couldn't have disappointed me more(except by bringing namtaru back).

PS can't access the blog currently, hoping it went down from all the negative feedback.


TD i would ban your ass for this vulgar words, learn to behave!!!

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kiryu133
kiryu133


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Highly illogical
posted January 23, 2015 06:25 PM

TD said:
So only good news you got is that we get decent champions, except they both look like some warcraft units to me. HAVE YOU SERIOUSLY NOT SEEN HOW MUCH PEOPLE HATED THOSE snowING METH HEADS!?!? Sorry for the caps, but YOU snowING RAPED AND NEUTERED NECROPOLIS!!! I can't wait to see how you will rape the orcs, sylvan and dungeon after seeing this. Until now I was kinda hopeful, but seeing this snow is making me see red! Sorry for the language, you just couldn't have disappointed me more(except by bringing namtaru back).


language, please. Using "rape" in this context is not a very good thing to do.


Having seen the unupgraded spider i am now convinced they lack pedipalps and thus should not be called spiders. Ubi, i am dissapointed

unupgraded spiders also looks like 50 times better. what's the deal, ubi?

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Protolisk
Protolisk


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2015 06:25 PM

dark-whisperer said:
Most of creatures look like they are missing some color channels. They are bleak and look unfinished, unrefined like some preview...
I love rider on grim reaper model but horse... maybe its wrong angle but that head... is it seahorse with horn or...


Well, it DOES say work in progress.

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RMZ1989
RMZ1989


Supreme Hero
posted January 23, 2015 06:25 PM

Wellplay said:
Elites are unupgraded read damn text they might look even better!

I don't see the problem? No, they won't look much better, it is the same f*cking concept of H6, except that models of Liches and Lamasus are even worse than in H6.

I don't have problem with Vampire Knights, and never did, but these looks horrible.

At least Grim Rider is awesome and has deserved champion spot.
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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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On the Other Side!
posted January 23, 2015 06:25 PM

And the website is down, I can't send my very first post there. Curses!
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Avonu
Avonu


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Embracing light and darkness
posted January 23, 2015 06:28 PM

Ok, my thoughts:

I really don't like, that we got the same elites as in Heroes 6. Lich is just ugly and I never liked Lama Su . Vampire seems to be OK for me, althrough I always liked "Christopher Lee" from HoMM2 or Count Orlok from HoMM3.
Nevertheless, I don't hate them, I just prefer Mummy for Lamasu and more "classical" lich concept... but we got what we have and they are not as bad, a Ubisoft could done them (*cough* neon green and spikes *cough*).

Champions on the other hand... I think Ubi/Limbic has hit a jackpot with them. While Bone Dragon is H6' model, its doesn't look bad and its boned wings are nice done.
And now cherry on the top - Grim Reapers. Our loved Death Knights return in their undead glory and not onlythey are terryfing but also know how to dress.
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cleglaw
cleglaw


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posted January 23, 2015 06:30 PM
Edited by cleglaw at 18:32, 23 Jan 2015.

so dissapointed with

"lamasu but with worse design"
"same handsome mr.arthas vampire"
"you want skeletal but you wont get it, instead we gave you bald floating angry vampires"

worst elites in entire game, even maybe in entire series.

champion spot on the other hand look really good with lotr riders/grim reaper fusion + bone dragon.

thats what happens when you design a game with low budget+arrogance.

designing a game is a process, and its gotta be shown during in early stages to get some fan advice. now this is a confirmation of an finished job.

even if everyone wants them to change elites, they wont change it because its allready nearly finished...

*sigh*

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Pawek_13
Pawek_13


Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
posted January 23, 2015 06:31 PM
Edited by Pawek_13 at 18:33, 23 Jan 2015.

Kronos1000 said:
The elites are disappointing, my fear has come true. The champions on the other hand are amazing!

That's quite the same feeling I have. I ha ve nothing against Necropolis in Heroes VI (except its "Necromancy") but those elite units are really disappointing. On the bright side, however, I really like Grim Riders. They are really well done units (at least in terms of looks) but overall this Necropolis is sad.
PS. I have still some hope that upgrades of these units will look different from ones from Heroes VI.

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supertommy
supertommy


Known Hero
posted January 23, 2015 06:32 PM

I hate the elites. Even if they used H6 3D-models, they could at least add some minor differences (I mean, they have the original models and tools), not just change color.

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Valen-Teen
Valen-Teen


Famous Hero
UFOlolOgist
posted January 23, 2015 06:34 PM

I hope that gameplay of necro elites will be more "beautiful" than creature designs.

Thank for saving Lamasu though!
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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
posted January 23, 2015 06:36 PM

While the champions are awesome, the elites are just... ugly as hell. It's the same as h6, lamassu has the ugly hag face again, the vampire is Arthas-copy-paste and the lich is just the wannabe uncle Fester. Why? And all these descriptions which want to underline how "good are them and how much they respect Asha" makes me wanna puke

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Protolisk
Protolisk


Promising
Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2015 06:39 PM

My feelings about this is pretty good.

I liked the idea of the Lamasu, so they can just make it's stats a bit better to make it more useful. Since there is no Manticore, I would accept it's dead cousin.

The Vampire, I still don't mind, though I hope it gets a movement upgrade. Those 4 spaces a turn in H6 was atrocious. Lets hope they learned some tricks in the past 200 years.

Liches... Their looks are still underwhelming, but now that the Ghoul is gone, they look less like Ghouls. I can only hope the upgraded Lich head is a skull, because then I would have more reasons to upgrade them on the double.

Bone dragon, besides it's weird alpha-looks, seems nice. It seems to have learned from Clash of Heroes, and seems to eat other things, though mostly already dead corpses. I wonder how that will pan out?

Grim Rider/ Reaper is a nice middle ground between the Wraiths of H5 and the Dread Knights of H3. And, it's a champ to boot. Nice. Hope it's skills can hold itself up against that Bone Dragon as well.


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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted January 23, 2015 06:43 PM

Dammit. I was at dinner during the reveal and now the site is down for me.
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Stormcaller
Stormcaller


Famous Hero
posted January 23, 2015 06:45 PM

Overview of shown factions so far

- Slyvan- Utter crap.

- Necropolis- Utter, reclycled crap.

- Haven- Great. They at least tried here and refreshed the knights as much as it can be done

- Dungeon- Mixed feelings.

- Academy- Don't like them, never did, but I think they look great.

- Stronghold- Unknown, not yet revealed

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fuChris
fuChris


Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
posted January 23, 2015 06:48 PM

Lamassu finaly looks like something that has been put together out of different corpses than something that was put together, killed and then resurrescted. Gives it a nice Frankenstein kinda vibe. I kind of like that.

Vampire need to loose the botox. Other than that it is more tolerable looking than the fully pimped out ones from H6. Kind of afraid of the upgraded one tbh.

As for the Lich... turns out it only needed less green and more gravelight to make it resemble a proper dark wizard. Looks kind of pissed off tho, not sure how well that works with the whole monk-like asha-uses-all feel I got from Arantir and Markal.

Bonedragon needs less bone. Sounds kind of stupid but it looks too filled out. Either add decayed flesh or remove some bonematter.

Deathknight. Lookin' good.
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Kronos1000
Kronos1000


Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
posted January 23, 2015 06:50 PM

War-overlord said:
Dammit. I was at dinner during the reveal and now the site is down for me.


Only the homepage is down, direct links will still work:

Part 1 - with unupgraded creatures

Part 2
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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted January 23, 2015 06:53 PM

Thanks a bundle Kronos.
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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted January 23, 2015 06:54 PM

So, they chose to keep H6 style Liches because people loved them so much?
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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted January 23, 2015 06:56 PM

alcibiades said:
So, they chose to keep H6 style Liches because people loved them so much?

No, just to save money.
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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted January 23, 2015 06:56 PM
Edited by Galaad at 18:57, 23 Jan 2015.

alcibiades said:
So, they chose to keep H6 style Liches because people loved them so much?

MMH7 official said:
1) Here at Might & Magic HQ, we’re very fond of the H6 Necropolis, and we feel they are one of the best factions of that game in terms of art direction. So we didn’t want to recreate it from scratch.
2) Necropolis is the timeless, undying faction. If one faction should remain very similar, art-wise, from one game to the next, it’s the Undead.
3) The H6 models were already very detailed, so there was no point in doing new models for essentially the same designs.


Basically we can just go snow ourselves.

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