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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted January 23, 2015 07:23 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 19:23, 23 Jan 2015.
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Pawek_13 said:
Avonu said: At least they don't sparkle.
As long as they look different, I woundn't have anything against. Come on, it's just a video game. It shouldn't be taken that seriously.
But people take it to serious sometimes.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted January 23, 2015 07:25 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 19:26, 23 Jan 2015.
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Pawek13 said: Come on, it's just a video game. It shouldn't be taken that seriously.
Never say that in hardcore fan forums.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 23, 2015 07:26 PM |
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Like "Imma GONNA BAN YOU ALL FOR INSULTING?"
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted January 23, 2015 07:28 PM |
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Please, explain to me, how Necromancers still get Lamasu. They were created around 564. Nearly 3 centuries past. And they're still in the Elite. There was several wars, necro were exiled. And Lamasu are ressurected Beastmen. What, Wizards created new ones for their dear necromancers?
They should already be extinct during H7.
But dat Grim Reapers. H5's Wraith on a horse. Oh yeah.
And Sandro was mentioned again 8)
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 23, 2015 07:30 PM |
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It's strange that they suddenly start to ignore the lore where they want to Erwan uses lore to get his look-alike lich and his beloved wife (Lamasu )
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted January 23, 2015 07:30 PM |
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Sandro400 said: Please, explain to me, how Necromancers still get Lamasu. They were created around 564. Nearly 3 centuries past. And they're still in the Elite. There was several wars, necro were exiled. And Lamasu are ressurected Beastmen. What, Wizards created new ones for their dear necromancers?
They should already be extinct during H7.
But dat Grim Reapers. H5's Wraith on a horse. Oh yeah.
And Sandro was mentioned again 8)
Nah, they just keep resurrecting the old ones.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 23, 2015 07:31 PM |
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Sandro400 said: Please, explain to me, how Necromancers still get Lamasu. They were created around 564. Nearly 3 centuries past. And they're still in the Elite. There was several wars, necro were exiled. And Lamasu are ressurected Beastmen. What, Wizards created new ones for their dear necromancers?
Maybes they start sowing zombies onto (dead) manticores? There's still plenty of those left. And do they realy need Wizards to do it for them? They couldn't, like, do it themselves?
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 23, 2015 07:31 PM |
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Sandro400 said: Please, explain to me, how Necromancers still get Lamasu. They were created around 564. Nearly 3 centuries past. And they're still in the Elite. There was several wars, necro were exiled. And Lamasu are ressurected Beastmen. What, Wizards created new ones for their dear necromancers?
They bought all Manticores from Dark Elves?
Sandro400 said: But dat Grim Reapers. H5's Wraith on a horse. Oh yeah.
Isn't it Heroes 5(6?) Necropolis hero?
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted January 23, 2015 07:33 PM |
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Avonu said:
Sandro400 said: But dat Grim Reapers. H5's Wraith on a horse. Oh yeah.
Isn't it Heroes 5(6?) Necropolis hero?
Yeah, in H5 they had heroes that look close to that, but they weren't armored.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 23, 2015 07:47 PM |
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Me said: GIVE US BETTER NECROPOLIS CREATURES!!
#GUBNC
Thinking Necropolis line-up is crap? You're not the only one!
But if you don't voice your opinion, nothing will change. So make yourself heard!
I will not accept this Heroes 6 copy-paste under no circumstances!
I will post the #GUBNC tag so the devs take notice and decide to make the appropriate changes!
If you think the same, do the same!!
✘ These Necropolis Creatures
✔ Better Necropolis Creatures
#GUBNC
It has begun.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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Ubi-Nox
Shaper of Lore
M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
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posted January 23, 2015 07:51 PM |
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Hello guys,
We've been working with Limbic for several years now and with different projects (H6 SoD, MMX & H7). Our collaboration is strong and we share a common vision about the game and the franchise in general. This idea of the big bad wolf Ubisoft is wrong here since we are the M&M team above all and are the ones cooperating with Limbic.
Website and game are too totally different topics, we do have issues with our servers at the moment but we are not talking about the same budgets and projects here. The website is a different entity.
We decided to go for transparency with this website, we acknowledged the return of some creatures and understand your frustration. However we can assure that game feeling will be different with this faction and champion units will definitively make the change. We learned many lessons with Heroes VI and this is not because some models are similar that the game will be the same.
Moreover, and I hope you will trust us at some time, we want to deliver the best game possible, for you and for us, we have no interest at all to do the opposite. This website represent some “risks” for us because we share lot of information and every time we ask ourselves if this will be well welcomed or not but we love Heroes and just want to share as much as we can on this one with you.
Best,
Ubi-Nox
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted January 23, 2015 07:52 PM |
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Galaad said:
Avonu said: Money, dear boy, money.
Oh yeah? If the website wasn't so laggy I would bother find Nox's quote stating MMH7 is not under-budgeted.
Obviously it's a question of money. Every budget, lose or tight, always has a limit, so re-using some parts will allow more money to be spent elsewhere, which can be good. I'm just surprised they chose to keep these particular details, given how much dislike towards the Lich in particular has been displayed here. But then again, wasn't it just the other day that one of the insiders said that (in their impression at least) most players liked H6 Necropolis, a picture I have a hard time recognizing, but then again, what do I know ...
PS: I think the Grim Reaper is totally awesome. It is also for that reason, that it is sad that some of the bad-looking creatures from H6 (personally I dislike the Vampire more than the Lich) are re-used.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted January 23, 2015 07:52 PM |
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LizardWarrior said: It's strange that they suddenly start to ignore the lore where they want to Erwan uses lore to get his look-alike lich and his beloved wife (Lamasu )
As much as I like Ashan - yes, Lamasu's presense surely seems strange
RMZ1989 said: Nah, they just keep resurrecting the old ones.
I don't think it's possible to resurrect so much old ones. They were a failed experiment, so logically they aren't too numerous to begin with. Buuuut...
RMZ1989 & WarOverlord & LizardWarrior - while I was writing the answer to you all I remembered that Necro campaign is a story told by Anastasya. It happened in the past. So the case is solved.
WarOverlord - well, I agree, maybe someone from Chimera moved to Eterna and made Lamasus for them You have a point. Though I think such things as Beastmen creation are kept in secret.
Avonu. yes, H5 had similar Heroes, but here we have them as creatures and they're gonna swing that scythe over and over! And they just look gorgeous.
P.S.: Heroes were hooded skeletons anyway. I like Nazgul-style more.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted January 23, 2015 07:55 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 19:57, 23 Jan 2015.
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I'm afraid words are not going to work Nox. The community has been VERY loud about all this and we're getting literally THE SAME Heroes 6 creatures again in the Elite department. I'll hand it to you that the Champions are great, but I'm not going to think about that one one hand and accept a compromise on the other hand. No, I want a REAL Necropolis with all creatures being amazing and not the Heroes 6 crap.
Sorry if I'm being a bit harsh but I'm very emotional about Necropolis since it's my all time favorite faction and I cannot stand Ubisoft's butchering at all.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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hahakocka
Known Hero
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posted January 23, 2015 07:56 PM |
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Yeah, many unit is the same, but i welcome the return of Bone Dragon and also the Grim Reaper (alias dread knight with reaper)
Spider is fit well too.
There will be other types, may be neutral units of spiders too? As in King's Bounty there were many.
The Necropolis unit models not quiet finished yet? THey looked like H5 models. Way more worse than the Haven and Academy unit pictures and 3D models. More pixelated. Unreal 3 can do better. I hope you will put out on the website the final pictures and models too in the near future.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted January 23, 2015 07:56 PM |
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@Ubi-Nox: Gotta work on making H7 Necropolis gameplay different from H6! That'd would appease the fans, for sure
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted January 23, 2015 07:58 PM |
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Stevie said: I'm afraid words are not going to work Nox. The community has been VERY loud about all this and we're getting literally THE SAME Heroes 6 creatures again in the Elite department. I'll hand it to you that the Champions are great, but I'm not going to think about that one one hand and accept a compromise on the other hand. No, I want a REAL Necropolis with all creatures being amazing and not the Heroes 6 crap.
Sorry if I'm being a bit harsh but I'm very emotional about Necropolis since it's my all time favorite faction and I cannot stand Ubisoft's butchering at all.
Will Ubisoft go bankrupt because you won't buy the game?
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted January 23, 2015 07:58 PM |
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Edited by Wellplay at 20:00, 23 Jan 2015.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted January 23, 2015 07:59 PM |
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Storm-Giant said: @Ubi-Nox: Gotta work on making H7 Necropolis gameplay different from H6! That'd would appease the fans, for sure
Given that they've reverted to "traditional" Necromancy, I'm sure that's part of the plan.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 23, 2015 08:00 PM |
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Ubi-Nox said: Hello guys,
We've been working with Limbic for several years now and with different projects (H6 SoD, MMX & H7). Our collaboration is strong and we share a common vision about the game and the franchise in general. This idea of the big bad wolf Ubisoft is wrong here since we are the M&M team above all and are the ones cooperating with Limbic.
Website and game are too totally different topics, we do have issues with our servers at the moment but we are not talking about the same budgets and projects here. The website is a different entity.
We decided to go for transparency with this website, we acknowledged the return of some creatures and understand your frustration. However we can assure that game feeling will be different with this faction and champion units will definitively make the change. We learned many lessons with Heroes VI and this is not because some models are similar that the game will be the same.
Moreover, and I hope you will trust us at some time, we want to deliver the best game possible, for you and for us, we have no interest at all to do the opposite. This website represent some “risks” for us because we share lot of information and every time we ask ourselves if this will be well welcomed or not but we love Heroes and just want to share as much as we can on this one with you.
Best,
Ubi-Nox
Is there no chance for a change? I remember this whole transparent development was based on the conception that "Fans' opinions matter"
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