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Stevie
Stevie


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posted January 30, 2015 03:31 PM

War-overlord said:
Stevie said:
LoL. So are you saying that the transition from a desiccated body to a rejuvenated body happens on Nothing being added to the equation? Muscles? Fluids? Carbohydrates and Proteins? New cells?! And those don't "materialize"? If matter in any shape or form is not added then there is no change, lol.


Do you know what dessicated means? It means that something is preserved by drying. Conventional Liches body is still entirely intact, only dried out into a mummified form. The only thing added is the magical fluid that is the Namtaru Venom which restores all dried out muscles and organs. The magical properties of the Venom then start aging those tissues backwards towards perfection. So no, nothing is added, other than magical fluid, just restored.


Speculation that the ritual involves drinking Namtaru venom again which is not hinted at all and which had already been drank at the moment of becoming a Lich with the effects of desiccation and not rejuvenation. Doesn't stand.
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fuChris
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posted January 30, 2015 03:31 PM

Stevie said:
Why don't you import ALL the visuals next time with the reason that you want to better invest the money in gameplay and mechanics and otherwise things that "matter"?


It's called an addon Stevie or as the young'uns call 'em these days...DLC.

Anyways.
Marzhin, I hope you relize that Ubi could defuse this whole situation by saying that the money/time spent on creating new necro models was actually going to be spent on more neutrals. That would shut some people up real good instantly. Promise them Efreet and Magic Elemental and all will be forgotten
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Avirosb
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posted January 30, 2015 03:32 PM

War-overlord said:
Vampires age backwards to the point of perfection. Which is somewhere in your early twenties, apparantly. Given the fact that Anastasya was killed before that, she ages to the nearest of that, her late teens, which is when she was killed.
Flavor text makes a point of her looking 17 in spite of not doing so.
So which is it; late teens or early twenties?

Also, do ugly vampires exist? Or is there some kind of discrimination going on?

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Galaad
Galaad

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Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted January 30, 2015 03:34 PM

Avirosb said:
Also, do ugly vampires exist? Or is there some kind of discrimination going on?

I believe ever since Erwan took the wheel there is.
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Galaad
Galaad

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posted January 30, 2015 03:36 PM
Edited by Galaad at 15:46, 30 Jan 2015.

Marzhin: In my opinion, each and every one of HoMM towns should deserve to look as good as a Link in a Zelda game.
Thinking reusing old models is a breather is a hinder to creativity.
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War-overlord
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posted January 30, 2015 03:37 PM

Stevie said:
Speculation that the ritual involves drinking Namtaru venom again which is not hinted at all and which had already been drank at the moment of becoming a Lich with the effects of desiccation and not rejuvenation. Doesn't stand.

Go buy a Compendium and read it for yourself.

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Avirosb
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posted January 30, 2015 03:39 PM

Read the manga you plebe. It's all there, right to left

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War-overlord
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posted January 30, 2015 03:39 PM

Avirosb said:
Flavor text makes a point of her looking 17 in spite of not doing so.
So which is it; late teens or early twenties?

If the text says she looks like she's 17 then that is the point she was physically most perfect.

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Stevie
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posted January 30, 2015 03:41 PM

War-overlord said:
Stevie said:
Speculation that the ritual involves drinking Namtaru venom again which is not hinted at all and which had already been drank at the moment of becoming a Lich with the effects of desiccation and not rejuvenation. Doesn't stand.

Go buy a Compendium and read it for yourself.


Are you for real? Can you quote?
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War-overlord
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posted January 30, 2015 03:43 PM

Stevie said:
Are you for real? Can you quote?

Will that make you believe me?

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LizardWarrior
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posted January 30, 2015 03:46 PM

LizardWarrior said:
Imagine how much money they would save if they fire the story department, better graphics, no recycled models, interesting game-play features, maybe they could even introduce some kind of politic system, revolutions where you can attack your enemy that recently conquered your town in a special battlefield that would be inside the city walls, rpg elements added, more modding programs and capabilities, social tension systems, neat multiplayer support, most doesn't give a damn about lore and a game without lore would encourage us to build our own story and fantasy As for campaign we just need some simple plot like faction X attacks faction Y or peasant becomes a king, 2 lines of text there and there, no need for expensive cutscenes


No one can bring a counter-argument it seems

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Stevie
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posted January 30, 2015 03:49 PM
Edited by Stevie at 15:49, 30 Jan 2015.

War-overlord said:
Stevie said:
Are you for real? Can you quote?

Will that make you believe me?


I think I would, but confirmation would be appreciated.

Either way, snow the lore. I just want my goddamn Skeletal Liches back!
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posted January 30, 2015 03:50 PM
Edited by Zombi_Wizzard at 15:55, 30 Jan 2015.

Avirosb said:
Also, do ugly vampires exist? Or is there some kind of discrimination going on?

And what about fat Justicars. Surely warrior women wouldn't be modern fashion models but rather more muscular or even bulky. More like you know ... modern javelin throwers in atlethics or even judoists. Historical sources of gladiatrix (yes they did exist for entertainment purposes back then - and yes they were most likely topless) supports this

I mean. Men are always depicted as quite strong individuals in this types of games and movies (and rightly so, you need to be strong for melee fighting), but women don't seem to need that strenght .... or do they...

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posted January 30, 2015 03:51 PM
Edited by Avirosb at 15:53, 30 Jan 2015.

I don't care what they look like as long as they don't look like pre-Liched Necromancers.

This combined with Disciples instead of Mages.
What is this, amateur hour?

Quote:
And what about fat Justicars.
Justicars aren't a race, but I'm sure there are.
In any case it'll be boring to only have trueblood vampire heroes to choose from.

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Marzhin
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posted January 30, 2015 03:51 PM

LizardWarrior said:
LizardWarrior said:
Imagine how much money they would save if they fire the story department, better graphics, no recycled models, interesting game-play features, maybe they could even introduce some kind of politic system, revolutions where you can attack your enemy that recently conquered your town in a special battlefield that would be inside the city walls, rpg elements added, more modding programs and capabilities, social tension systems, neat multiplayer support, most doesn't give a damn about lore and a game without lore would encourage us to build our own story and fantasy As for campaign we just need some simple plot like faction X attacks faction Y or peasant becomes a king, 2 lines of text there and there, no need for expensive cutscenes


No one can bring a counter-argument it seems


I can: not paying the whole story department during one whole year would not cover the costs of creating a single faction.
And what you describe is basically a 4X game. Arguably interesting, but would that still be Heroes? Not for me at least.

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LizardWarrior
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posted January 30, 2015 03:53 PM

Erwan ain't paid the minimum salary, plus it's more than enough to cover skeletal liches+upg models

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Galaad
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posted January 30, 2015 03:54 PM
Edited by Galaad at 15:57, 30 Jan 2015.

Marzhin said:
Arguably interesting, but would that still be Heroes? Not for me at least.

Here I can say I agree, even if LizardWarrior may have trolled with that one.

Now, I have one question I am not sure you can answer: if the fan base puts enough pressure, is there as slight chance that Limbic benefits extra budget on the project?
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LizardWarrior
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posted January 30, 2015 03:56 PM

Also, the whole old universe was butchered, the only thing that makes it a heroes game it's the gameplay, so yes, it would still be a heroes game by these standards

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Galaad
Galaad

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posted January 30, 2015 03:57 PM
Edited by Galaad at 16:00, 30 Jan 2015.

LizardWarrior said:
Also, the whole old universe was butchered, the only thing that makes it a heroes game it's the gameplay, so yes, it would still be a heroes game by these standards

Touché.
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We don't need another 'eroes
posted January 30, 2015 03:58 PM

LizardWarrior said:
Also, the whole old universe was butchered, the only thing that makes it a heroes game it's the gameplay, so yes, it would still be a heroes game by these standards


lol too true

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