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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted February 18, 2015 02:23 PM |
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Stevie said:
Second phase of--- em, no?
Wasn't sieges supposed to consist of multiple phases?
I take it that's just a generic urban battlefield type then,
because a siege kind of stops being a siege once the attacking force has managed to break through.
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Limbic-Jaelle
Shaper of Lore
Communication Management, Limbic Ent.
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posted February 18, 2015 02:26 PM |
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Stevie said:
Limbic-Jaelle said:
2) if you wait, you get sorted backwards (a, b, c -> c, b, a)
Why would it be that hard to say "if you wait, you get sorted backwards"? Unless the text wanted to say more than that, which is what I suspect. And to see if that's true, just tell me - which creature comes first (before and then after wait) when they have the same amount of initiative? What is the parameter that dictates that, isn't it movement speed?
If you have more creatures with the same initiative, it's sorted this way:
Offensive, Defender, Offensive, Defender...and so on.
If you have for example more offensives than defenders, it will rotate, til the last defender has taken its place and will continue with the left offensives in a row.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 18, 2015 02:41 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 14:44, 18 Feb 2015.
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Okay so firstly Offensive - Defensive is a thing, lol. (why did they make that a deciding factor for a creature's turn anyway)
Then I get that if there were 7 creatures with the same initiative, out of which two were Defensive, it would mean:
Offensive -> Defensive -> Offensive -> Defensive -> Offensive -> Offensive -> Offensive;
And after wait it would reverse to:
Offensive -> Offensive -> Offensive -> Defensive -> Offensive -> Defensive -> Offensive?
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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Limbic-Jaelle
Shaper of Lore
Communication Management, Limbic Ent.
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posted February 18, 2015 02:49 PM |
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Stevie said:
Okay so firstly Offensive - Defensive is a thing, lol. (why did they make that a deciding factor for a creature's turn anyway)
Then I get that if there were 7 creatures with the same initiative, out of which two were Defensive, it would mean:
Offensive -> Defensive -> Offensive -> Defensive -> Offensive -> Offensive -> Offensive;
And after wait it would reverse to:
Offensive -> Offensive -> Offensive -> Defensive -> Offensive -> Defensive -> Offensive?
correct
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted February 18, 2015 02:53 PM |
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somebody pass me an aspirin lol
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted February 18, 2015 02:54 PM |
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verriker said:
somebody pass me an aspirin lol
Make us two! 
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Limbic-Jaelle
Shaper of Lore
Communication Management, Limbic Ent.
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posted February 18, 2015 02:56 PM |
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 18, 2015 02:56 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
verriker said:
somebody pass me an aspirin lol
Make us two!
Things come in threes.
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Minion
Legendary Hero
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posted February 18, 2015 02:58 PM |
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Edited by Minion at 15:03, 18 Feb 2015.
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That was how it was in H3 too. If there were units with same speed (9 for example) then attacker went first, and then the defending players 9 speed unit etc.
Edit: How would you Stevie wanted it to go then?
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"These friends probably started using condoms after having produced the most optimum amount of offsprings. Kudos to them for showing at least some restraint" - Tsar-ivor
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Limbic-Jaelle
Shaper of Lore
Communication Management, Limbic Ent.
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posted February 18, 2015 02:59 PM |
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I linked a whole package. Should be enough for all. I take some, as well. Maybe my flu will get better.
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Valen-Teen
Famous Hero
UFOlolOgist
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posted February 18, 2015 03:00 PM |
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Limbic cares about us. It's so cuty!
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 18, 2015 03:02 PM |
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I don't know why it would be so hard to summarize that info into something more comprehensible. What little I got from that piece of text on "Wait" made me think of something entirely else.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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Limbic-Jaelle
Shaper of Lore
Communication Management, Limbic Ent.
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posted February 18, 2015 03:03 PM |
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Valen-Teen said:
Limbic cares about us. It's so cuty!
I'll give my very best.
*curtsy*
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted February 18, 2015 03:03 PM |
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Galaad said:
Storm-Giant said:
verriker said:
somebody pass me an aspirin lol
Make us two!
Things come in threes.
Or fours.
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Vote El Presidente! Or Else!
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ThatRedSarah
Famous Hero
Adventuring Hero
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posted February 18, 2015 03:06 PM |
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lol lots of people feeling sick all of a sudden  i hope you get well soon!
I havent been spared from bad luck today either. Ended up bumping couple of my toes pretty hard against the door frame.. clumsy idiot 
But at least the Wait/Initiative system is cleared and sorted out once and for all.
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NamelessOrder
Famous Hero
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posted February 18, 2015 03:06 PM |
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What Limbic-Jaelle is saying is pretty basic - it's always been like that.
@Limbic-Jaelle
Anyway, i'd like to know if the last creature from the previous turn effects the 1st creature from the next turn. For example:
The last creature to move during the previous turn was an EDIT Attacker's creature and then in the new turn we have 2 creatures with the same and highest initiative (one from Attacker and one from Defender) - so which one starts the new turn? From Defender (following the one player ofter another principle) or from Attacker (following the Attacker first principle).
I think it should be the Defender but i'm not sure if the previous turn is accounted.
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Uplay: ZergRusher | H6: Thoughts on duels | DoC: Cassa
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Limbic-Jaelle
Shaper of Lore
Communication Management, Limbic Ent.
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posted February 18, 2015 03:07 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Galaad said:
Storm-Giant said:
verriker said:
somebody pass me an aspirin lol
Make us two!
Things come in threes.
Or fours.
Share the package, goddamnit! 
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted February 18, 2015 03:11 PM |
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Than i take full package. 
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Limbic-Jaelle
Shaper of Lore
Communication Management, Limbic Ent.
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posted February 18, 2015 03:13 PM |
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NamelessOrder said:
What Limbic-Jaelle is saying is pretty basic - it's always been like that.
@Limbic-Jaelle
Anyway, i'd like to know if the last creature from the previous turn effects the 1st creature from the next turn. For example:
The last creature to move during the previous turn was a Defender's creature and then in the new turn we have 2 creatures with the same and highest initiative (one from Attacker and one from Defender) - so which one starts the new turn? From Defender (following the one player ofter another principle) or from Attacker (following the Attacker first principle).
I think it should be the Defender but i'm not sure if the previous turn is accounted.
from the logical, the attacker has to start. The sorting of defender and attacker only counts, if you sort creatures with the same initiative.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted February 18, 2015 03:14 PM |
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Stevie said:
I don't know why it would be so hard to summarize that info into something more comprehensible. What little I got from that piece of text on "Wait" made me think of something entirely else.
probably a result of trying to explain the h3 system without a small note of "just like h3". explaining stuff most people already know to someone who has no idea can be pretty tough, especially if it's not in your native tongue 
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