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Ubi-Nox
Shaper of Lore
M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
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posted March 02, 2015 11:15 PM |
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Edited by Ubi-Nox at 23:15, 02 Mar 2015.
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
So there will be a demo? That's good news. I like game having a demo.
EDIT: Indeed if I were to praise one thing about H6 it would be, that it came with nice demo. Games with demos are becomeing rare in today's time, and I realy like that you can basicaly test out the game for free before you purchase. Specialy in H6 case, where you could play one map, and give all factions a spin, no strings attached.
Sorry guys there might be a misunderstanding here. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough, my bad  I was talking about a demo for the event to demonstrate the game to the journalist and community representatives and unfortunately not for broad distribution.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 02, 2015 11:18 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 23:19, 02 Mar 2015.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 02, 2015 11:19 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
But they're not doing this intervention, maybe because they don't want to restrict "the community". As you said, it took a direct threats to Erwan for them to finally intervene, which is not normal IMO, but just consider moderating this pile of comments.
What is even more abnormal to me is that requesting ELB to get fired is labeled as "unacceptable and will not be tolerated" while someone posting political hatred on very serious issues like situation in Ukraine or another one going full pedophilia towards another member's kid seems ok.
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Ubi-Nox
Shaper of Lore
M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
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posted March 02, 2015 11:21 PM |
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Edited by Ubi-Nox at 23:27, 02 Mar 2015.
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Sandro400 said:
But they're not doing this intervention, maybe because they don't want to restrict "the community". As you said, it took a direct threats to Erwan for them to finally intervene, which is not normal IMO, but just consider moderating this pile of comments. EDIT: mm, I was wrong, they finally consider to add some lind of moderating.
Well, it's because roughly 75% of comments are "cool" or "meh" or "hatehatehate" or off-topic etc etc. Ofc just my opinion.
Issues were identified a long time ago but finding resources and means is long process. Unfortunately my activity does not allow me as much available time as we need for this topic so alternatives needed to be found.
The Erwan topic wasn't the trigger (can assure you  ), but more the repetitive lack of respect between members. As devs we are unfortunately 'prepared' for this kind of feedback but community should not endure this.
Keep in mind that if you think something is wrong on the website, we usually thinks the same
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted March 02, 2015 11:29 PM |
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Zombi_Wizzard said:
So there will be a demo? That's good news. I like game having a demo.
Why offering a free to play demo to everyone when you have hordes of eager fans willing to pay for playing a demo of the game in advance? huehuehue
Demos are history.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 02, 2015 11:38 PM |
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Ubi-Nox said:
Keep in mind that if you think something is wrong on the website, we usually thinks the same
So what are you going to do about it tho? Have you brought up the problem at the Ubi meetings?
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Ubi-Nox
Shaper of Lore
M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
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posted March 02, 2015 11:42 PM |
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Edited by Ubi-Nox at 23:44, 02 Mar 2015.
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Stevie said:
So what are you going to do about it tho? Have you brought up the problem at the Ubi meetings?
Additional hands to help on this moderation matter That's why it take some time, never easy to unlock resources in companies, whatever it's size.
We will have one person who will backup us with the International comments and another for all Russian comments.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted March 02, 2015 11:50 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 23:50, 02 Mar 2015.
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artu said:
Paranormal activity is just a new fancy word for ghost story, the dictionary definition is: of or relating to the claimed occurrence of an event or perception without scientific explanation, as psychokinesis, extrasensory perception, or other purportedly supernatural phenomena.
Well, not in my book, actually. I've had enough first and second hand experiences in this particular area during my life, that I can't dismiss it so easily as pure fantasy or magic. However, the way it is portrayed in the Star Wars saga is quite a lot further than the experiences I refer to  - and that brings it into the grey area between paranormal situations on one hand and magic / fantasy on the other.
But reading your reply here makes me realise again that this is likely not the case for everyone and that yes, there are people who firmly reject paranormal events as having any form or shape of reality to them. And taking that one further, it puts the boundary of where reality ends and science fiction and/or fantasy begins on a rather personal scale.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted March 03, 2015 12:39 AM |
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Such experiences always have reasonable explanations when they are investigated but people who want to believe them keep believing them nevertheless, so I wont get into that, especially here in this thread. The bottom line is, having a connection with the dead, (and especially in a fashion like in Star Wars where they are the transparent versions of their bodies and they have direct and clear conversations with you as if you're on the phone) is unscientific, not only as in it has not been observed under tested conditions but also theoretically as well, since neurologically, it's impossible for you to maintain your personality when your brain ceases to exist. Talking about your personal experience about this (your interpretation of it actually) would be no different than somebody who believes in djinns (there are many here, since they are referred to in the Quran and guess what, they too talk about strange experiences) claiming djinns are not an element of fantasy.
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Are you pretty? This is my occasion. - Ghost
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 03, 2015 06:14 AM |
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Of course that's a slippery slope, because basically everything SciFi is actually unscientific in a way. "Space Flight", for example, meaning, movement through spacetime anyway faster than light while at the same time remaining in the same time frame than before, is actually fantasy. Just because the black box has fancy names that sound somewhat scientifically, it's no less "magic".
Especially when you consider that all "magic" in fantasy works in a scientific way, that is, if you can cast it, you can repeat it with the same results, so it actually follows certain "laws of nature".
On that front the difference is pretty arbitrary, imo.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 03, 2015 07:05 AM |
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Galaad said:
What is even more abnormal to me is that requesting ELB to get fired is labeled as "unacceptable and will not be tolerated" while someone posting political hatred on very serious issues like situation in Ukraine or another one going full pedophilia towards another member's kid seems ok.
Do you see now why I call 75% of comments as, khm, worth of ignoring? I quit it a long time ago. Sadly, there'll always be such members who manage to bring politics etc to completely different threads.
P.S.: honestly, I'm not following the comments section, so I didn't know about such kind of comments (though I'm not surprised). That said, I already told you that I do not consider the absense of moderators as a normal thing.
Ubi-Nox, thz for the answer! And consider hiring Galaad. Hey, he definitely has a lot of free time ^^
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted March 03, 2015 07:55 AM |
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@JJ
The difference between "fictive science" and "abra cadabra" can indeed be a matter of question and sometimes it's really just a thematic difference or about how serious things are handled/in what fashion they are handled. Think of the movie Flatliners where the subject feels much more medical and less fantastic and compare it to Star Wars where the dead are plain ghosts like Hamlet's father. We dont treat the "vampire virus" like serious sci-fi, although technically, it is still different than "curse of Satan." But I'd really prefer to wait before I discuss this any further, since I agree this have gone too far here, I'm going to open its own thread in a few weeks with links and all.
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted March 03, 2015 08:34 AM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Demos are history.
I don't think so. Imo demos are great. Even Blizzard decided to reintroduce them. You can play Starcraft 2, even some non-ranked multiplayer (ofc, why would you play starcraft if not multiplayer) demo, as well as Diablo 3 demo (have not played this one so idk).
I understand this will be demo for journalists / comunity / insiders, but it would be great to have later, at release date, demo for general public ... maybe?
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 03, 2015 09:19 AM |
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@JJ
FTL travel isn't strictly fantasy anymore. we are actually discovering potential ways of utilizing it and it's been theorized about for decades 
we're hardly there yet but fantasy it is not.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted March 03, 2015 09:24 AM |
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artu said:
Such experiences always have reasonable explanations when they are investigated but people who want to believe them keep believing them nevertheless, so I wont get into that, especially here in this thread.
I agree. Besides, it wasn't my intention to force my personal convictions on anyone else, just to illustrate that I am somewhat more open to the concept of there being more between heaven and earth so to speak, than we can scientifically explain. But I am sceptical about it, mostly coming from the angle that I do not know; I do not believe things just because I would like to believe them .
But that as an aside, we were talking about Heroes 7 - and especially the clash between fantasy and science fiction.
I still think that steampunk could really enrich the game world. The cold high tech of the original Forge screens were too much, but more in the style of (World of) Warcraft and Dungeon Siege (1 & 2 in any case) would be a perfect opportunity to explore an over-the-top medieval science faction.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted March 03, 2015 09:25 AM |
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kiryu133 said:
@JJ
FTL travel isn't strictly fantasy anymore. we are actually discovering potential ways of utilizing it and it's been theorized about for decades
we're hardly there yet but fantasy it is not.
He did not just say faster than light travel, he said faster than light travel while remaining in the same time frame.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 03, 2015 09:36 AM |
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Gryphs said:
He did not just say faster than light travel, he said faster than light travel while remaining in the same time frame.
i'm not gonna answer that due to not wanting to derail the thread further but whatever. (hurry up artu  )
anyway. demo would indeed be nice. h6 was barely a demo. more like an alpha-test but i'm pretty sure we've all agreed to that.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 03, 2015 09:57 AM |
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Sandro400 said:
Ubi-Nox, thz for the answer! And consider hiring Galaad. Hey, he definitely has a lot of free time ^^
 
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sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 03, 2015 10:29 AM |
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Galaad said:
What? I'm serious here. You're quite active on the blog (level 30) and very polite. I would like to see you as a moderator.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 03, 2015 10:35 AM |
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sandro400 said:
What? I'm serious here. You're quite active on the blog (level 30) and very polite. I would like to see you as a moderator.
Where were you during Sandro revolution?
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