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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 09, 2015 07:10 PM |
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Galaad said:
True. Even I welcomed the great news. I even thought giving a second third chance to Ashan (yes, at first, I did).
Regarding the votings, there was some anti-Ubi due to some moves like having Unicorn and Phoenix in separate lineups, but quite not as much.
Sandro400 said:
Sure, some people were sad by the fact that they had to make a tough choice (unicorn/phoenix), but the general consensus was "oh, we have a word in this".
P.S.: giving Ashan a third chance? Oh you're so generous! 
P.P.S.: drama ensues...
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Let's play poker game, lich-style!
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 09, 2015 07:12 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
offered a well meant advice and a soothing gesture
Sorry but lol
And you are not the first person who happened to disagree with me, yet you are the only who categorically refused to hear any of my arguments.
I see no point in continuing this quarrel.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted March 09, 2015 07:21 PM |
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Galaad said:
Sorry but lol
And you are not the first person who happened to disagree with me, yet you are the only who categorically refused to hear any of my arguments.
I see no point in continuing this quarrel.
But sadly I do. Since you are still not opened enough for me to let you write your opinions freely, whit out a voice that speaks against them. I have made it my task to stop that poison you write my dear knight in golden armor.
You see I have heard out all of them, and I even acknowledge some of them. But that will not stop me from having an opinion. It will not stop me from reminding you that you are not the god here. This is a round table my dear knight and as much as you wish to stand up, you will never be in its front.
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 09, 2015 07:23 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
Well, I certainly disagree with your point of view
I see. I'll have to kill you then. In a fluffy way. Strangle you with my cuteness, how about that?
Sandro400 said:
Let's return to this when they show us the stats. Because for now, they tend to give units lesser abilities and more stat play. If skeleton is melee, and spider - a shooter, they would be distinct enough.
That's what I'm talking about. Lack of info, proper descriptions. So far, they are all skeletons going for a Halloween party. I was hoping spiders were shooters.
Sandro400 said:
Yeah, MOS generally recieved negative feedback, but they're WiP, they may change for the better.
Super detailed? Compare them to H6 pal 
What for? I'm talking about H7 only because that's the issue. H6 I haven't bought it after getting bored after 1h30 of gameplay. And I really don't want to lay my eyes on that while I'm in a good mood. 
Sandro400 said:
True! So true! So let me ask you a questions: why fans should've been negative towards Ubi for not having detailed info about mechanics, hmm? You're going to dislike them/complain because they haven't revealed all info about the mechanics?
Certainly, because I don't have to share my views of interest with their judgement of what should be priority in revealing, as we have seen, so far, artworks and screenshots. If that suffice for one to love the game and want to buy it. Good. For me not, and for that, I'll complain for what I want to know. I'm merely saying that those are important details, and I don't feel like being hoodwinked until they decide to reveal and then, this I cannot foretell, a big surprise happen - good or very bad. If the latter, too bad for me, I guess.
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P.S.: what do you mean by "nothing changed"? Heroes changed once, and after that the company bankropted...
Ah, I've meant along H7 production and articles being published. Since the beginning they are tossing artworks and screenshots, whilst mechanics are being left aside most of the time. Nothing to do with older installments, right?
@Dave
Point taken. Sadly, won't happen. =(
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
GlaDOS – Portal 2
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted March 09, 2015 07:25 PM |
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Dave_Jame said:
Insiders are enough of an impact in my eyes.
Sometimes I so wish it was.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 09, 2015 07:26 PM |
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EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY HEROES!!!
Galaaaaaaad...
VS.....
Daaave-Jaaame!!!
BEGIN!
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Sorry, I couldn't resist
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 09, 2015 07:29 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
EPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY HEROES!!!
Galaaaaaaad...
VS.....
Daaave-Jaaame!!!
BEGIN!
now kiss...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 09, 2015 07:30 PM |
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Dave Jame ... I only try to bring back some beauty here ... What you care about is gameplay, I'm on your side here ... Your whole "fight" against me is blind to begin with ...
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted March 09, 2015 07:33 PM |
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PandaTar said:
I see. I'll have to kill you then. In a fluffy way. Strangle you with my cuteness, how about that?
You don't find Sandro with cuteness. I'll just twist it. And will let the Void take you.
PandaTar said:
That's what I'm talking about. Lack of info, proper descriptions. So far, they are all skeletons going for a Halloween party. I was hoping spiders were shooters.
I have a great proposal. Maybe... we should wait and see, mmm?
PandaTar said:
What for? I'm talking about H7 only because that's the issue.
It is an issue but we're moving forward in a good way. Compared to H6's H7 isn't over-detailed at all 
PandaTar said:
If that suffice for one to love the game and want to buy it.
Sadly, it suffices for maaaany people. Even H6 just bearing the name of Heroes sufficed to sell it.
PandaTar said:
I'm merely saying that those are important details
Yes, but what exactly are you waiting for in terms of mechanics? It's pretty much H3 + H5 + H4 governors. + flanking, which is meh. You want something new?
Or do you want exact balance numbers? Sorry, won't happen with all "expert" balancers out there.
PandaTar said:
Ah, I've meant along H7 production and articles being published.
Ah, I see. Yeah, I guess I can agree with you at this.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 09, 2015 07:35 PM |
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GalaadXDave_Jame
tbh, the worst part of h7 right now is Necro (and haven for other reasons but i won't delve more in that here) and one out of six (?) is still pretty good.
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Sligneris
Supreme Hero
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posted March 09, 2015 07:38 PM |
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Galaad said:
I only try to bring back some beauty here ...
BRING ME THE BEAUTY
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted March 09, 2015 07:42 PM |
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I ultimately disagree with you, Dave. The Shadow Council was a good move from Ubisoft. You may not be aware that there were times when the number one complaint fans had was that there was no communication between the community and the developers. On that background, the VIP group was established. And unbeknownst to you, the group was in favor of the idea of OpenDev (Elvin himself told me that). So there's that, if you think so highly of the VIP group, they agreed with what you loathe.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted March 09, 2015 07:44 PM |
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Galaad said:
Dave Jame ... I only try to bring back some beauty here ... What you care about is gameplay, I'm on your side here ... Your whole "fight" against me is blind to begin with ...
Isabela only wanted to bring back something she loved, do you want to be Isabela? I will hope my "fight" will be proven blind. But for now...
@Sandro400: Bad Idea with the rap battle, Now I'm thinking up verses.
@Stevie: The reason why "loathe it" as you say is not the idea in itself. I'm rather fond of that, and I took part in MaM X's development even before so I knew how it will work, but its outcome.
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted March 09, 2015 07:44 PM |
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@Galaad
I was able to run Heroes 6 pretty well.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted March 09, 2015 07:46 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
You don't find Sandro with cuteness. I'll just twist it. And will let the Void take you.
I eat void at breakfast. Don't you see my colors? Oh, no avatar yet, god-damnit. XD
Sandro400 said:
I have a great proposal. Maybe... we should wait and see, mmm?
Sounds elegant. As long as the waiting is worth the time in the end.
Sandro400 said:
Yes, but what exactly are you waiting for in terms of mechanics? It's pretty much H3 + H5 + H4 governors. + flanking, which is meh. You want something new? Or do you want exact balance numbers? Sorry, won't happen with all "expert" balancers out there.
Yes, some details on those jigsaw pieces they took from the other games AND new things, if any, which hasn't appeared so far. The few mechanic details they seemed to bother to explain a bit were things they will make a bit different from H6, which seemed not so popular (no town conversion, town teleportation, creature pooling, zoning controls). Skills? Nothing yet. Spells? Nothing yet. Creature ability? Lack of info for some - do you know exactly what that grim reaper aura truly does, for example? Balancing issues would be interesting to learn, but not something I would have now, although knowing units stats for comparison would be something rather interesting, still nothing there. And yes, something new, unique, groundbreaking. That's just a customer's demand. The worst it'll happen: I won't buy the game. Then, I'll wait for the next one, if my mood is ok with that, just like I did regarding H6. ^^
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
GlaDOS – Portal 2
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted March 09, 2015 07:49 PM |
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OmegaDestroyer said:
@Galaad
I was able to run Heroes 6 pretty well.
Then there may be some chance you will be able to run Heroes 7 as well, since there seems to be a lot of reused assets. I could be wrong, but from what I saw, the game shouldn't ask for a lot of food.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted March 09, 2015 07:50 PM |
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Sligneris said:
BRING ME THE BEAUTY
PURE BEAUTY
(srsly though, screw the maidens. terribly designed creatures  (then again, so was every single female creature in h5 with the possible exception of the succubi))
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted March 09, 2015 07:51 PM |
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Galaad said:
OmegaDestroyer said:
@Galaad
I was able to run Heroes 6 pretty well.
Then there may be some chance you will be able to run Heroes 7 as well, since there seems to be a lot of reused assets. I could be wrong, but from what I saw, the game shouldn't ask for a lot of food.
On top of this Unreal 3 is known to work better then H6's engine, which was a BH original
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted March 09, 2015 07:53 PM |
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Frankly hadnt the franchise been picked when it was i dont think we would have gotten any other Heroes game ever. Plenty of more successful games and games with potential of more sales than Heroes can even dream in this day and games are or were stuck-ish (Bayonetta, Megaman, Tomb Raider, Castlevania)
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted March 09, 2015 07:54 PM |
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kiryu133 said:
(([...] with the possible exception of the succubi))
Are we speaking about Succubi with constant bladder inflamation?
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