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Sligneris
Sligneris


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2015 10:31 PM
Edited by Sligneris at 22:37, 31 Mar 2015.

You know, as much as I love Heroes V townscreens, the more I look at them, the more I feel like they're a bit too epic to represent every single city of a faction.

I mean, H5's Necropolis is located on a geographically impossible rock, the snowy mountains of Grimheim are filled with a suspicious amount of geysers, Dungeon's dark elves seem to sculpt gigantic statues of Tuidhana in their every city, Inferno's demon architects like to hit a barrel, Academy's mages seem to have enough power to sustain floating cities and Haven's castle is so large that it looks like the mayor of the small town of Ashwood decided to build a palace overshadowing all them puny peasant huts.

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Wellplay
Wellplay


Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
posted March 31, 2015 10:38 PM

IGN always contradicts itself, thats nothing new for them.

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leiah2
leiah2


Known Hero
posted March 31, 2015 10:51 PM

leiah2 said:
Out of Topic, but am I the only one who thinks that the Centaurs look like they 16-17 years old? Not that I have a problem with it because they are by far my favorite units so far looking at the artwork!
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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted March 31, 2015 11:27 PM

Stevie said:

The way it's now turns the creature to face the attacker each time. So imagine my first battles vs 2x2 Spiders. Those frigging things rotated 5-6 times and it was a pain to watch. It felt completely ridiculous and cheesy. Either something gets done to improve the gameplay around flanking or it will continue to feel like that.


Are you saying the attacked unit would turn and face the attacker, even if it did not retaliate? I don't remember it like that, but I could be wrong.

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Maurice
Maurice

Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
posted April 01, 2015 12:54 AM

Elvin said:
Seriously? Sure it adds a bit more planning in combat but not particularly so. If on the other hand it involved the use of two stacks to flank a defending stack it would be a lot more interesting and gameplay-rewarding. Instead we get an ability similar to jousting that works only from the sides and from behind. It feels like a wasted opportunity to introduce an actually good gameplay mechanic that takes skill to properly set up and execute. Now everyone and his grandma can flank you by taking a stroll around you while you glance at them absent-mindedly. Naah that's such a sweet old lady, she wouldn't flank me. Ouch!


I still don't understand why they don't simply make it a positioning issue and drop the facing requirement. Have two stacks on either side of an enemy stack? Then you have a flank and both stacks do more damage to it. If it's not a straight alignment but rather a Knights' move from chess, you'd still have a partial flank and even if you deal more damage, it's less than a full flank.

Easy. Facing doesn't make much sense in the symbolic representation of a stack of units anyway.

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Stevie
Stevie


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posted April 01, 2015 12:57 AM

The_Green_Drag said:
Are you saying the attacked unit would turn and face the attacker, even if it did not retaliate? I don't remember it like that, but I could be wrong.


The build I played was like that, I'm sure about it.
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JotunLogi
JotunLogi


Known Hero
posted April 01, 2015 08:08 AM

I like that creatures rotate even if they do not retaliate cause it favours fast units and also it can has decent synergy with obstacles and other units on the map- player is forced to plan each attack in order to predict where the flank side will be and attack it with the strongest creature afterwards

Btw, Bravo for M&M: Heroes 7 main servers- after final updates and changes there is no spam, hate or just anything- simply because the site is so slow and laggy that anyone does not even bother to give longer comments and scroll the page.

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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Undefeatable Hero
posted April 01, 2015 08:14 AM

Imo, flanking is really, really bad, for a couple of reasons.
The game doesn't add anything in terms of ways to guard against this (you cannot plot your movement tile for tile or select a facing), which makes it basically a universal unit ability:
The unit does 25% more damage if attacking from side/behind and 50% if attacking directly from behind.
This makes it a necessity to get this damage bonus, so it's a dominating ability - all lesser individual abilities are pretty underwhelming in comparison.
Additionally, the ability supports units that are advantaged anyway: Small, mobile, high speed, high initiative.

I mean, look at the Cyclops: big, 3 movement. The guys will be flanked like hell - but won't be able to flank themselves.
It also makes the "immune against flanking" ability VERY important.

The whole thing is totally counter-productive.

It would be a good unit ability for a Dungeon Elf (Backstab) - but that's it.

The thing makes sense in games where single units fight each other; in AoW 3 it works: up to 42 single units in battles, units having up to 3 action points (and in some cases even more), can change facing, can plot their move, can move with breaks (move unit 1, move unit 2, move unit 1 again) and units reacting to being flanked.
Here?
Your unit hasn't done anything (waited, defended), not retaliated nor attacked - and it stands around, seemingly dreaming and letts itself clobber to pulp?
Bad joke, if you ask me. Utterly stupid.

However - what would it gain to allow flanking only against units that used up their retaliation(s)? A unit that has no retaliations anymore is a dead duck anyway, and "retaliation stealing" would become a real nuisance, since the proverbial single Imp would not only steal the 3000 damage retaliation of that big stack of Cyclopses, it would also open them for bonus damage.

So this is an ill-advised feature.

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Minastir
Minastir


Promising
Famous Hero
posted April 01, 2015 10:39 AM

Expect today some pointless, ridiculous article on the mmh7 site

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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted April 01, 2015 11:08 AM

Well, we could consider the pics as the pointless article. So today we may have nada.

Major update on Monday and minor Tuesday... having one today is a bit too much

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Minastir
Minastir


Promising
Famous Hero
posted April 01, 2015 11:22 AM

Articun said:
Well, we could consider the pics as the pointless article. So today we may have nada.

Major update on Monday and minor Tuesday... having one today is a bit too much

not what I meant Today is April Fools' Day and they always have something prepared for this day

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Articun
Articun


Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
posted April 01, 2015 11:25 AM

Minastir said:
Articun said:
Well, we could consider the pics as the pointless article. So today we may have nada.

Major update on Monday and minor Tuesday... having one today is a bit too much

not what I meant Today is April Fools' Day and they always have something prepared for this day


I keep forgetting that -.-
So far i've seen the Android Panda now doll that uses Google Now to inform you as a personal assistant and the smart Knife of samsung

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Greenlore
Greenlore


Known Hero
posted April 01, 2015 11:32 AM

Just a small question(dunno if this was asked already),but what is this creature on the top left on this screenshot?
https://ubistatic-a.akamaihd.net/0004/prod/images/150331_Preview/MMH7_AdventureMap1.jpg

At first I thought it was the grim rider sitting on his spectral horse,but that form doesn't really fit(and the spectral horse would be almost nonexistent)
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Minastir
Minastir


Promising
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posted April 01, 2015 11:36 AM
Edited by Minastir at 11:40, 01 Apr 2015.

Greenlore said:
Just a small question(dunno if this was asked already),but what is this creature on the top left on this screenshot?

Top left ? Idk i can only see earth elemental and artifact floating, and behind artifact i think there's another air elemental

isn't it this artifact ?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6232/6329139780_ea2f0c10d3.jpg

or we are talking about something else

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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted April 01, 2015 12:15 PM
Edited by War-overlord at 12:16, 01 Apr 2015.

Minastir said:
Greenlore said:
Just a small question(dunno if this was asked already),but what is this creature on the top left on this screenshot?

Top left ? Idk i can only see earth elemental and artifact floating, and behind artifact i think there's another air elemental

isn't it this artifact ?
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6232/6329139780_ea2f0c10d3.jpg

or we are talking about something else

I'd be inclined to agree. It's either and Air Elemental or a Ghost. The artifact makes it hard to see.
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kiryu133
kiryu133


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Highly illogical
posted April 01, 2015 02:15 PM
Edited by kiryu133 at 14:17, 01 Apr 2015.

http://mmh7.ubi.com/pl/blog/post/view/discover-mmh7-ar-experience

did they make statuettes or something the models look damn real. i want that Justicar one real bad.
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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted April 01, 2015 02:17 PM

kiryu133 said:
http://mmh7.ubi.com/pl/blog/post/view/discover-mmh7-ar-experience

*casts fireball*
- ****! What was that?"


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LizardWarrior
LizardWarrior


Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
posted April 01, 2015 02:18 PM
Edited by LizardWarrior at 14:18, 01 Apr 2015.

kiryu133 said:
http://mmh7.ubi.com/pl/blog/post/view/discover-mmh7-ar-experience

TottalyNotAnAprilsFoolHoax

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kiryu133
kiryu133


Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
posted April 01, 2015 02:27 PM

LizardWarrior said:
kiryu133 said:
http://mmh7.ubi.com/pl/blog/post/view/discover-mmh7-ar-experience

TottalyNotAnAprilsFoolHoax


no snow. the actual models or whatever looks damn good is all.
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verriker
verriker


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Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
posted April 01, 2015 02:36 PM

ah, good old Ubi, taking the piss out of Might and Magic fans and irreverent to a fault!

...oh and they've put up an April Fools' joke too lol
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