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Stevie
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posted September 12, 2014 02:37 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Have ever seen Game of Thrones? There is factually little difference between the Spy Master and Varys.
That may be true. In which case the term "Spymaster" is ill used.
Didn't see Game of Thrones. Read some wiki. Tell me, is that Varys a spy?
War-overlord said:
The other members do not need to trust him, they are there for Ivan.
LoL, really? Attendance to an important council like that from unknown parties is never a problem, sure. It's not like he's even hiding his face from the others, he's completely open. He even gave them his name, Spymaster. He's totally trustworthy, Ivan said so.
War-overlord said:
P.S.
Never go into politics Stevie.
I hate politics anyway, but that's quite hilarious coming from you after what you've said above.
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War-overlord
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posted September 12, 2014 02:45 PM |
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Stevie said:
War-overlord said:
Have ever seen Game of Thrones? There is factually little difference between the Spy Master and Varys.
That may be true. In which case the term "Spymaster" is ill used.
Didn't see Game of Thrones. Read some wiki. Tell me, is that Varys a spy?
No, he's a spymaster. He is the employer of the spies.
Stevie said:
War-overlord said:
The other members do not need to trust him, they are there for Ivan.
LoL, really? Attendance to an important council like that from unknown parties is never a problem, sure. It's not like he's even hiding his face from the others, he's completely open. He even gave them his name, Spymaster. He's totally trustworthy, Ivan said so.
War-overlord said:
P.S.
Never go into politics Stevie.
I hate politics anyway, but that's quite hilarious coming from you after what you've said above.
The point here is that politics, amongst other things, is working with people you do not trust, for the betterment of the country/county/whatever. You do not trust them, because they want things for your country/county/whatever that conflict with your goals. Yet not working with them is not an option, for you will neither see your goals accomplished nor theirs downplayed if you don't.
And since you are unwilling to work with fictional people you do not trust.....
But I do not see how it is funny.
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Avonu
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Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 12, 2014 02:52 PM |
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War-overlord said:
No, he's a spymaster. He is the employer of the spies.
He is an employee of Ubisoft, so don't fully belive him. 
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"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 12, 2014 02:55 PM |
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Avonu said:
War-overlord said:
No, he's a spymaster. He is the employer of the spies.
He is an employee of Ubisoft, so don't fully belive him.
Varys is working for Ubisoft?! Oh My Nerd!!
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Sandro400
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Shadow of Death
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posted September 12, 2014 02:55 PM |
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War-overlord said:
The site is down ATM, so I cannot look it up. But he appears to be sitting in on the meeting in the artwork, amongst other things. The hooded figure sitting with his back towards the viewer. And since there are 2 chairs empty, as I remember, it's very much not implied that this figure is one of the yet to be chosen councilors.
Edit: Just the artwork, realy.
I really doubt this hooded guy is SM (but it maybe him, I'll give you that). As far as I remember, hoods don't match.
And there's only one empty chair, really.
So, I wouldn't say that SM is at Ivan's Council on the first place. So yeah, he didn't reveal himself to anyone except us.
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Stevie
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posted September 12, 2014 02:57 PM |
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War-overlord said:
No, he's a spymaster. He is the employer of the spies.
Employing spies does not make you a spy. He's a Spy Employer, not a Spy Master. Depends how you define the word, but to me Spy Master is not just an employer, but a leader of spying operations that keeps a low profile.
War-Overlord said:
The point here is that politics, amongst other things, is working with people you do not trust, for the betterment of the country/county/whatever. You do not trust them, because they want things for your country/county/whatever that conflict with your goals. Yet not working with them is not an option, for you will neither see your goals accomplished nor theirs downplayed if you don't.
And since you are unwilling to work with fictional people you do not trust.....
But I do not see how it is funny.
There's a difference between not trusting someone and not knowing someone.
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Avonu
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posted September 12, 2014 02:57 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Avonu said:
War-overlord said:
No, he's a spymaster. He is the employer of the spies.
He is an employee of Ubisoft, so don't fully belive him.
Varys is working for Ubisoft?! Oh My Nerd!!
No, the Spymaster is... sir Nicholas Fury. 
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Elvin
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Endless Revival
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posted September 12, 2014 03:03 PM |
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War-overlord said:
P.S.
Never go into politics Stevie.
Or balance discussions 
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War-overlord
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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 12, 2014 03:03 PM |
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Stevie said:
Employing spies does not make you a spy. He's a Spy Employer, not a Spy Master. Depends how you define the word, but to me Spy Master is not just an employer, but a leader of spying operations that keeps a low profile.
That is not something one can do to the leader of the country that is employing the spymaster.
The Spy Master is effectively the Head of the Secret Service.
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War-overlord
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posted September 12, 2014 03:22 PM |
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Stevie said:
@WO: Ok. Why's he wearing a hood tho? Isn't common courtesy to show your face?
Not to your spies. If you don't know who he is, you cannot rat him out if you're caught.
Remember Ivan's Council =/= Shadow Council.
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Storm-Giant
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On the Other Side!
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posted September 12, 2014 04:01 PM |
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Elvin said:
War-overlord said:
P.S.
Never go into politics Stevie.
Or balance discussions
Shots fired!
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 12, 2014 04:10 PM |
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https://mmh7.ubi.com/en/blog/post/view/end-of-the-deliberations
Quote:
...Mmm? My own vote? Is it important?
...Very well. I actually voted for the Dwarves.
If I ever have any doubts who was behind that guy, it's clear now.
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"Details are everything."
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Storm-Giant
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posted September 12, 2014 04:13 PM |
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Poor Marzhin 
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Marzhin
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posted September 12, 2014 04:28 PM |
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Avonu said:
If I ever have any doubts who was behind that guy, it's clear now.
Was there ever any doubt?
But yeah, I'm the one writing most of the stuff from the Spy Master and Kaspar on the website.
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Avonu
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Embracing light and darkness
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posted September 12, 2014 04:30 PM |
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Marzhin said:
Was there ever any doubt?
Only 0,01%
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"Details are everything."
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Storm-Giant
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posted September 12, 2014 04:30 PM |
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e3772014 said:
Guys, the academy theme is out 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpmdVCrd298
...and it's gone.
Glad I still got to hear it twice!
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adriancat
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Protector Of The Peace
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posted September 12, 2014 04:32 PM |
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Marzhin said:
Avonu said:
If I ever have any doubts who was behind that guy, it's clear now.
Was there ever any doubt?
But yeah, I'm the one writing most of the stuff from the Spy Master and Kaspar on the website.
Why didn't you guys update the site with more info? Even now the Stronghold and Necro links are unclickable and instead of "Sylvan" it's still written "To be voted".
P.S. I thought that Elvin was the Spy Master, but I was wrong 
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Sandro400
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Shadow of Death
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posted September 12, 2014 04:32 PM |
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Now we should make Inferno win. 2 Elf factions will be too much.
@Marzhin, there never were any doubts^^ Btw, Dwarves's failure is very regretful
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fuChris
Promising
Supreme Hero
Master to the Speed of Light
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posted September 12, 2014 04:33 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
e3772014 said:
Guys, the academy theme is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpmdVCrd298
...and it's gone.
Glad I still got to hear it twice!
Dammit. Came too late to listen to it.
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Storm-Giant
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On the Other Side!
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posted September 12, 2014 04:34 PM |
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adriancat said:
P.S. I thought that Elvin was the Spy Master, but I was wrong
He probably wishes he had the time to do that
@Marzhin: will you guys announce the next vote (sixth faction) today?
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