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Avirosb
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posted August 14, 2014 11:32 AM

Speed is different from initiative, is it not?

So a swordsman could have better reaction time because he didn't have to relay information to his horse, but a horseman would still move farther during its turn.

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War-overlord
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posted August 14, 2014 11:38 AM

Avirosb said:
Speed is different from initiative, is it not?

So a swordsman could have better reaction time because he didn't have to relay information to his horse, but a horseman would still move farther during its turn.

If initiative and speed are decoupled again, that's not an unreasonable assumption.
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flonembourg
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posted August 14, 2014 11:41 AM
Edited by flonembourg at 11:45, 14 Aug 2014.

Avirosb said:
Speed is different from initiative, is it not?

So a swordsman could have better reaction time because he didn't have to relay information to his horse, but a horseman would still move farther during its turn.



Yeah, but take a look of H5 and H6 initiative for the cavalier/sunrider they likely act before infantry (swordman,sentinel and crossbowman also)

So in H5 and H6 the horses were more... clever

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Redpuma77
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posted August 14, 2014 11:42 AM

flonembourg said:
Speaking of what we can see on the battlefield:

Direwolf have a crazy initiative of 40!
Followed by crossbowman with 20!
But Horseman have only 12 initiative so he acts relatively late in the turn... strange because it's the cavalry not the infantry...

And the Swordbearer  with 18 initiative (representative of infantry) acts before the cavalry.

Speaking of swordbearer lot of people said "nothing impressive" but i think it's a good idea that changes the perpetual Angel...
Moreover Angel will be likely the second champion so don't be worry my friends!


I agree, no offense I like Angel ,but I can describe It with one word: boring. Beautiful ,but boring. Also quite like Swordbearer.

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Redpuma77
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posted August 14, 2014 11:53 AM


So Cabir.



Personally I like, how It looks, hope It's a good replacement of gremlin.

What do You think Is It thrownig fireballs like Gog or Magog like in Heroes 3?

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Arugaf
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posted August 14, 2014 11:54 AM

Some new icons:

Haven


Upgraded crossbowmen, upgraded direwolf, upgraded horseman, upgraded swordbearer, seraph, upgraded seraph, guard, upgraded guard, catapult.

Academy


Golem, upgraded golem, upgraded djinn, gargoyle, upgraded gargoyle, rakshasa, upgraded rakshasa.
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Thanir
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posted August 14, 2014 12:03 PM
Edited by Thanir at 12:07, 14 Aug 2014.

Arugaf said:
Some new icons:

Academy


Golem, upgraded golem, upgraded djinn, gargoyle, upgraded gargoyle, rakshasa, upgraded rakshasa.


Oh nice where did you get those?

I really like the Academy line-up so far. Could become my favorite faction in this Heroes game. I suppose the last remaining unit for Academy will be some kind of wizard.
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Arugaf
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posted August 14, 2014 12:11 PM

Thanir said:
Oh nice where did you get those?

I really like the Academy line-up so far. Could become my favorite faction in this Heroes game. I suppose the last remaing unit for Academy will be some kind of wizard.


I changed name of creatures in already available icons.

For example static14.cdn.ubi.com/mmh7/prod/images/units/academy/PIC_creature_academy_djinn.png to static14.cdn.ubi.com/mmh7/prod/images/units/academy/PIC_creature_academy_golem.png
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Storm-Giant
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posted August 14, 2014 12:12 PM

Yeah, where those come from?

rakshasa, golems, gargoules
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flonembourg
flonembourg


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posted August 14, 2014 12:14 PM

Guard and crossbowman are too similar!
Angel what a surprise (irony)!!!

Academy line up is good and the art is good too for me!

But haven... too similar to haven...

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Storm-Giant
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posted August 14, 2014 12:17 PM

flonembourg said:
But haven... too similar to haven...

Haven has always rotated around the same units since H3, really. They rarely have innovation on their lineup, and when it happens...well, see H6 glories

At least this time we have wolves and crusaders Swordbeares, they spice up the faction while keeping a more, human approach. And I like it
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War-overlord
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posted August 14, 2014 12:28 PM

Arugaf said:
Thanir said:
Oh nice where did you get those?

I really like the Academy line-up so far. Could become my favorite faction in this Heroes game. I suppose the last remaing unit for Academy will be some kind of wizard.


I changed name of creatures in already available icons.

For example static14.cdn.ubi.com/mmh7/prod/images/units/academy/PIC_creature_academy_djinn.png to static14.cdn.ubi.com/mmh7/prod/images/units/academy/PIC_creature_academy_golem.png

Have you tried Mage or Griffin? I'll bet those are the remaining creatures.
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Arugaf
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posted August 14, 2014 12:34 PM

War-overlord said:

Have you tried Mage or Griffin? I'll bet those are the remaining creatures.


Sure. I've tried to use all possible variants for the griffin, mage, gremlin and priest (including the names of creatures from M&M: DoC) but it didn't work.
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War-overlord
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posted August 14, 2014 12:36 PM

Arugaf said:
War-overlord said:

Have you tried Mage or Griffin? I'll bet those are the remaining creatures.


Sure. I've tried to use all possible variants for the griffin, mage, gremlin and priest (including the names of creatures from M&M: DoC) but it didn't work.

Curious, I was certain of the Griffins at least. I mean, what's Haven without Griffins nowadays.
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MattII
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posted August 14, 2014 12:41 PM
Edited by MattII at 12:41, 14 Aug 2014.

Peasant, pikeman, squire and swordsman are also dead-ends.

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Storm-Giant
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posted August 14, 2014 12:46 PM

Thanir said:
- you have to register your game in Uplay once, after that you can play it offline

Similar to H6 I think. What's important to know is if it's capped like H6 offline

Thanir said:
- the sector control system with its forts as in H6 will return although there will be some changes to the system

Well, they can be destroyed according to screenshots, we know that.

Thanir said:
- permanently changes to the adventure map will be possible (they mention an avalanche from a mountain that can block a path and they mention destroying a statue in the underworld to drain a sea in the world above which then results in a new explorable area where the sea was before)

Mmm..not sure about this, we need more info.

Thanir said:
- there will be a new flanking system for the battle system, attacks from the side and from behind will do more damage to a creature

So like Heroes Online, but in squares. Could be fun!

Thanir said:
- spells are no longer permanently learned as skills as in H6, you have to buy them in a town or find them on the adventure map (it's not worded that clear in the article but to my understanding they simply return to the old spellsystem)

Sounds like Magic Guilds to me
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SepSpring
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posted August 14, 2014 12:48 PM

It's quite possible they haven't uploaded all images yet. Griffin is an iconic creature for the Haven of Ashan. Not sure they decided to leave it out.

By the way. Elvin, can you tell anything about Julie Murphy, please? Is she back for vocalize?

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Avonu
Avonu


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posted August 14, 2014 12:49 PM

Arugaf said:
War-overlord said:

Have you tried Mage or Griffin? I'll bet those are the remaining creatures.


Sure. I've tried to use all possible variants for the griffin, mage, gremlin and priest (including the names of creatures from M&M: DoC) but it didn't work.


No you didn't.

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Thanir
Thanir


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posted August 14, 2014 12:50 PM
Edited by Thanir at 12:51, 14 Aug 2014.

Storm-Giant said:
Thanir said:
- permanently changes to the adventure map will be possible (they mention an avalanche from a mountain that can block a path and they mention destroying a statue in the underworld to drain a sea in the world above which then results in a new explorable area where the sea was before)

Mmm..not sure about this, we need more info.


I wouldn't be surprised if these are only scripted events for the campaign.
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Valen-Teen
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posted August 14, 2014 12:50 PM
Edited by Valen-Teen at 12:51, 14 Aug 2014.

I thougt last haven creature is monk/cleric/inquisitor )
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