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Wellplay
Wellplay


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Poland Stronk
posted September 11, 2014 08:30 PM

Stormcaller said:
Swordbearer is actually refreshing, and who's to say Haven can't have brutally looking units? It's not really going into Orcs' territory just yet.

I do hope we don't get another angel though.


We already now from leaks provided by russian site that Angel is as 2nd champion unit to pick

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red_flag
red_flag


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posted September 13, 2014 12:11 PM
Edited by red_flag at 12:33, 13 Sep 2014.

Who can explain this?
after morale swordmaster have 7 points of the speed:


but before and after 6 only:



The same thing with horseman
8 points before morale:


10 points after:


So, it's seems to be some racial skill or ability that gives to the haven's creatures increases of some parameters by morale. May be here in percent of the speed, because crosbowman haven't any increases of the speed: before morale 3 and after 3.

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VOKIALBG
VOKIALBG


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posted September 13, 2014 12:12 PM

Its why we need hexes back.
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Stormcaller
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posted September 13, 2014 12:29 PM

Haven having good morale is nothin new, but if it affects more stuff than just your turn, it would be quite cool.


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Elvin
Elvin


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What if Elvin was female?
posted September 13, 2014 01:28 PM

Racial ability?
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Storm-Giant
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posted September 13, 2014 01:59 PM

VOKIALBG said:
Its why we need hexes back.

Hear, hear!
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Avonu
Avonu


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posted September 13, 2014 02:17 PM

VOKIALBG said:
Its why we need hexes back.

+999
But I afraid is it already too late for that.
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Galaad
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posted September 13, 2014 03:28 PM

Avonu said:
VOKIALBG said:
Its why we need hexes back.

And isometric view.

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Dave_Jame
Dave_Jame


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posted September 13, 2014 03:38 PM
Edited by Dave_Jame at 15:40, 13 Sep 2014.

red_flag said:
Who can explain this?
after morale swordmaster have 7 points of the speed:

but before and after 6 only:

The same thing with horseman
8 points before morale:

10 points after:

So, it's seems to be some racial skill or ability that gives to the haven's creatures increases of some parameters by morale. May be here in percent of the speed, because crosbowman haven't any increases of the speed: before morale 3 and after 3.


Theory. Haven special Moral gives extra 2 movement. if you take out the 0,5 in the 1,5 areas.. it would make sence

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cleglaw


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posted September 15, 2014 01:26 PM
Edited by cleglaw at 13:34, 15 Sep 2014.

Ok guys, i had some thoughts about swordbearer over the days passed, and i come with some suggestions now.

In my opinion, there are two main problems should be adressed.



1-He lacks indetical looks of a rare-special unit. He also doesnt steps forward enough, he lacks shine of a champion, he doesnt have enough presence to make us respect him enough. It is hard to indentify him different from a regular strong muscular soldier.

2-As we search sings of beign champion, after first problem we encounter, a second one appears. His name is plain simple and does not tells us enough about himself.


I think we can solve these by going down to the core, and by core i mean the philosopy behind him. his lore. his identity. when we settle up this good enough, we will go one step forward to enchant it. design will be based of his lore and will tell his tale, tell us who he are.

Starting with my suggesting with lore:



In wolf duchy, tradition is important. They respect their elders, both in past and in present. so people of wolf duchy respect great warriors, lords and many other people as long as they make somethings to protect & honour the duchy.

So elders pay back this respect. Their legacy is "wolf swords". first men in the duchy was using them, all forged by same hands therefore all have same shape and forms. Sword has symbol:"a wolf showing teeth. an intimidating image"

When their mission to serve the duchy ends(means when they gave their final breath), they pass these swords to young ones"the wolf children". With communication help of priests, ancients choose children in duchy worth to carry their name&duty.

Chosen children is immediatly picked up from normal society to special training, to what we can call as an entirely new life. They became linked with their own sword as the training goes. They become the only one truely hearing their words, and also channeling powers. When their training ends, they are announced by the wolf king as "sword-bearers(name can be changed, i just have no better suggestion yet.).

A person who becomes sword bearer is highly respected and they considered as walking will of ancestors. Sometimes they tell words of ancients, sometimes they tell their own.

In battle, they are the commanders of troops and when they swing their sword they swing it with thousand ancients together. Some say that is the reason behind why they can carry such a big sword and swing in a large angle.

This whole process about sword-bearers, is considered as one of the most important traditions in the wolf duchy.  





Second part, the enchanted desing:


Sword should feel really heavy, we should understand that bearer of it is not just a normal man.

Sword and the man should shine as same color showing that they are linked to each other. Eyes-mouth-hands may glow, a shinng flowing light may flow through the whole body constantly. Sometimes brighter then usual. Maybe an remarkable aura(not same but close to the previous color) starts to glow when they are striking to their oppenents. aura may cause winds to make their cloths, cloaks and hair to move(sorry cant find the exactly correct word to express. waving? flowing? or something else? i dont know sorry for my poor english).

If these are not enough to make sword bearer become noticable enough, we can make him bigger in size fitting to 4 square they fill. Maybe the power flowing throuhh their veins made them slightly larger than a regular human, who knows?

Well,thats it. Thanks for reading my suggestion, whether you liked it or not

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yogi
yogi


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of picnics
posted September 15, 2014 06:10 PM

alcibiades said:
Dislike the whole concept, and the name is downright horrible.


+1
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blizz
blizz


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of temper grace
posted September 15, 2014 07:00 PM

Too bad we didn't get Haven lineup to vote on. Now we are stuck with this.

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blob2
blob2


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Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted September 15, 2014 10:12 PM

blizz said:
Too bad we didn't get Haven lineup to vote on. Now we are stuck with this.


Never say never. Devs have already surprised us with Sylvan voting, and the game is still in production...

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


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posted September 15, 2014 10:23 PM

blob2 said:
blizz said:
Too bad we didn't get Haven lineup to vote on. Now we are stuck with this.

Never say never. Devs have already surprised us with Sylvan voting, and the game is still in production...

Nah, Haven & Academy lineups are set in stone, they wouldn't have artworks, portraits and models of each creature done if they wanted us to decide their lineups.

On the other hand, if Stronghold lineup is going to be voted as Limbic guy claimed, then maybe we could expect the same for Necropolis?
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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


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posted September 15, 2014 11:15 PM

Storm-Giant said:


On the other hand, if Stronghold lineup is going to be voted as Limbic guy claimed, then maybe we could expect the same for Necropolis?


gawd no more polls!!! this one was exhausting and it's not finished yet! the line ups should be something on their hands, given the plethora of units. they should keep the voting for the factions only.

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Storm-Giant
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posted September 15, 2014 11:20 PM

Ah cmon, this lineup voting is fun
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Wellplay
Wellplay


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Poland Stronk
posted September 15, 2014 11:24 PM

exactly its fun to see people get fanatic over voting

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Protolisk
Protolisk


Promising
Famous Hero
posted September 15, 2014 11:37 PM

Storm-Giant said:
Ah cmon, this lineup voting is fun


Like Dwarf Fortress' Fun?

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ChrisD1
ChrisD1


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posted September 15, 2014 11:39 PM

Wellplay said:
exactly its fun to see people get fanatic over voting


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athas65
athas65


Known Hero
posted September 16, 2014 12:48 AM

Protolisk said:
Storm-Giant said:
Ah cmon, this lineup voting is fun


Like Dwarf Fortress' Fun?


Lol, that the first thing that came to my mind when I read what he wrote XD

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