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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 20, 2017 04:26 PM

Nephretes said:
So basically hit-on effect. Might be interesting, but since it is 2lvl unit, and utility of "slowing" down enemies is kind of provided by sand ghost's quicksand, it might be OP. Another effect could work though.


Yeah, then maybe give it a 15-20% chance to success or so, and didn't think of sand ghost so maybe... poison?
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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted May 20, 2017 04:26 PM

Can't wait to play this town! All the creatures look epic

Some kind of multi hex attack also comes to mind but maybe that's cause I'm used to Rakashas from the other games. Maybe an agility skill that lets them dodge the first attack used against them? And unlimited retaliations?

As for the dancer maybe a morale or luck boost to allies within a certain range?

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culgil
culgil


Adventuring Hero
posted May 21, 2017 03:12 AM

@ Nephretes:
Everything impressive, as always Rakshasa looks real badass!

I guess poison or paralyze is supposed to be given to scorpion, right?
Agility function would also fit to dancer, e.g. the one from Rakshasa in Heroes 5: if you don't act, your initiative (or in H3 speed) increases.

I don't know what is doable in VCMI, but it would be cool to have entirely new abilities like the cast quicksand you mentioned, because every town of the normal game has unique abilities, especially for higher level units.
But nonetheless, for Rakshasa, my first thought also was multitarget-attack 8) The three-target attack of Cerberus might be an alternative to all-around attack, which is already used by two units, Hydra and Psychic elemental. Rakshasa still needs another new unique ability though. What about casting Adv./Exp. Frenzy on himself and attacking in the same turn? Guess that would fit thematically and synergize nicely with three-target attack.
Alternatively Rakshasa could cast mass Bloodlust/Slayer/Haste.

As a perfectionist, I damn know what you're talking about. My professor gives every PhD student the advice "Don't get it right, get it written!"
So I guess if basic graphics are satisfactory (and they are very very good right now!), then things like balancing the stats can easily be done after the release. There is a big community which will give you feedback on that. So, let's just be a bit imperfect

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 21, 2017 03:29 AM

culgil said:
I guess poison or paralyze is supposed to be given to scorpion, right?


Oh yeah that makes sense, well, I guess he got the gist of my idea.
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PandaTar
PandaTar


Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted May 21, 2017 04:27 AM

Nephretes said:

As for Rakshasa, it's 7lvl and 4 arms. As far as I remember there are two units with more limbs (let's count in hydra's head for this purpose). Thematically attacking adjacent hexes, or no relatation would double with similar units. Gotta think of something different


A double strike breaking defense? If target used the Defend ability, the first strike will break that effect, and the second strike will inflict normal damage. If enemy has not used Defend, second strike will have a chance to inflict critical damage (something like +30%). Both strikes are performed before retaliation.
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Winston
Winston


Hired Hero
posted May 23, 2017 06:22 PM

Dancer ability: Is it possible to make it so you can select two ranged attack targets? If so, make it so she can ranged attack two enemy units for one attack, even if they are not adjacent to each other, as if the chakras were bouncing between them.

Rakshasa ability: If multi hit is out (I don't see why not because naga/magic elemental share it), then how about either
-Gains attack while making concurrent attacks, but loses temporary boost if spent any turn not attacking.
-Double damage counter attack.

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Nephretes
Nephretes


Promising
Known Hero
posted May 23, 2017 06:42 PM
Edited by Nephretes at 18:42, 23 May 2017.

Thanks guys for your ideas, I have gathered them together with propostions on acid cave and we will see what we can do here

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blob2
blob2


Legendary Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
posted May 23, 2017 11:31 PM

I hope you planning on keeping that Scorpion, it's design is badass.

I bit of a bummer on Lamassu, it was quite original, good thing your keeping it though. Personally I'm not a fan of those Sand Ghost units, they're pretty much another Conflux-ish Elementals. Would rather see something different but it's your choice ofc

And about new ability ideas. It's nice to see something new, but Heroes III had rather simple abilities, maybe it should be kept that way? Nothing wrong with re-using or modifying existing ones. The Snake guy can have Wyvern Monarchs poison ability, and Ghost can cast Slow, or summon Quicksand on the battlefield etc.

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Nephretes
Nephretes


Promising
Known Hero
posted May 27, 2017 01:09 AM

Yes, but I will be retexturing scorpion a bit, which is when I am satisfed (never ). Thanks for suggestions

I have almost finished animating dancer/dervish, so it is time to showcase some of new 7lvl unit animation - Rakshasa.
Standing/Mouse over/Getting hit

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acidchalk
acidchalk


Adventuring Hero
posted May 27, 2017 01:33 AM

Very epic town keep it up!

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Javiduc
Javiduc


Hired Hero
posted May 27, 2017 08:25 PM
Edited by Javiduc at 19:24, 30 May 2017.

I think this town looks awesome, the general idea is very good and the details very well taken care of. I only wanted to say that in my oppinion the lvl7 creature, Rakshasa, looks like lvl6. I mean it reminds me more a naga or a manticore than a dragon. I consider Lamassu more suitable for lvl7, just an oppinion.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted May 30, 2017 07:26 PM

Javiduc said:
I think this town looks awesome, the general idea is very good and the details very well taken care of. I only wanted to say that in my oppinion the lvl7 creature, Rakshasa, looks like lvl6. I mean it reminds me more a naga or a manticore than a dragon. I consider Lamassu more suitable for lvl7, just an oppinion.

Agree. If not 5th level (in D&D for example  rakshasas are enemies of genies and are on the same level).

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Galaad
Galaad

Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
posted May 30, 2017 07:29 PM

The Raks looks top-notch

I also feel the Lamassu fits better as lvl7. Raks can be lvl6, lvl5 -no.
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The_Green_Drag
The_Green_Drag


Supreme Hero
posted May 30, 2017 08:43 PM

The Raks look fantastic. They certainly don't look like they're up to par with the other tier 7s, but maybe it's cause I'm used to seeing 4 armed sword users at a lower tier.

I say give them a higher growth rate with weaker stats.

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Kilkakon
Kilkakon

Tavern Dweller
posted September 13, 2017 11:16 AM

Keep up the good work!

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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 13, 2017 11:31 AM

So, was it ever released?

And pardon my noobishness on the issue, but can VCMI have additional towns without replacing existing ones?
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Famous Hero
posted September 13, 2017 12:04 PM

Yes. https://wiki.vcmi.eu/Mod_list
But quality of new towns vary from 'looks fantastic' to 'ugly'.
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NimoStar
NimoStar


Promising
Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 13, 2017 12:26 PM

But Oasis isn't there, meaning it was not released


Anyways... in theory, can these town mods be run more than one at a time, or they are separated only? (I know they can be manually combined into a greater mod, but tht would take work)
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Famous Hero
posted September 13, 2017 01:36 PM

Oasis is still under development, but definitelly not abandoned!
And yes, you can easily enable dozens mods at once and therefore play 10+ towns in one scenario.
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NimoStar
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Famous Hero
Modding the Unmoddable
posted September 13, 2017 01:42 PM

Nice.

Well, hoping for a release then...

(Also, I player the baldur's gate II character you have as avatar... Avatar )
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