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SepSpring
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 02:58 PM |
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 03:25 PM |
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I have to say 3D models looks better than the concept arts  especially blade dancer, although druid still has green eyes 
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 01, 2015 03:38 PM |
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man, druids are even more boss animated!  
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 03:39 PM |
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Emerald dragon is soooo ugly. Typical though, the concept art doesn't match the 3d model.
Really wish those emerald knights were in the game, they look awesome. Too bad we have these smiling dancers...
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MiniaAr
Hired Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 04:13 PM |
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Edited by MiniaAr at 16:15, 01 Jul 2015.
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Blade Dancer really don't have an Elite feel and belong to core and nowhere else. I'm also not convinced with stags as fighting units.
Let's hope for an expanded roster expansion (4/4/2):
Core:
Pixie
Dryad
Hunter
Blademaster
Elite:
Druid
Unicorn
Silver Pegasus
Emerald Knights (stag riders)
Champions:
Treants
Green Dragons
Alternatively, Phenixes as Champions and Treants moved as Elite in the place of Pegasi (Basically Minastir's roster from the HVIII suggestion forum).
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 05:23 PM |
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Here is What I think of the models.
Pixie:
Great model actually, even better if there had been
three small pixies in a group. But why do they have to explain every single thing a creature does? that the reason fo their non retaliation ability is that they shoot pollen at enemies so they sneeze and cough?
Hunter:
The model is okay I think, kind of what I expected.
The face is a little strange to me but I don't think that will be a problem.
Dryad:
I really loved the artwork but I find that the model is a little worse. The colors are a bit off and I find that too much of
the detail has been removed.
Druid:
Really good model, much better than artwork. Eyes should be
fixed and the attacking animation is a bit ridiculous but
those are small nitpicks.
Moon Doe:
I can see a lot of potential in this unit, but the devs have
miserably failed. Their model does not feel magic enough and their animation is ridiculous, the upgraded ability is interesting though. I would have preferred if they actually shot ''laser''
from their eyes or something, don't have to be ranged.
Blade dancer:
Most positive suprise, both models look great IMO and not as
overdone as their artwork counterparts. Maybe could have
used one more ability, feels a little weak.
Dragon:
Oh the dragon. I saw the unupgraded model and was like ''Wow!
This looks even better than their artwork!''. And then I switched to upgraded version and the model just looks retarded! Like the art was so amazing and now we got this? Ugh!
Treant:
Have looked good from the beginning. Definitely my favorite model
for treants in all Heroes games, atleast unupgraded one.
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icefield
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 05:57 PM |
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The Moon doe does have a special surprise ability. Any enemy will be surprised that this attack does any damage.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 06:54 PM |
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The_Green_Drag said:
Emerald dragon is soooo ugly. Typical though, the concept art doesn't match the 3d model.
Really wish those emerald knights were in the game, they look awesome. Too bad we have these smiling dancers...
they would have been female, i think.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted July 01, 2015 06:56 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
The_Green_Drag said:
Emerald dragon is soooo ugly. Typical though, the concept art doesn't match the 3d model.
Really wish those emerald knights were in the game, they look awesome. Too bad we have these smiling dancers...
they would have been female, i think.
Considering how much they changed the artwork from the votes, either gender would be possible.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted July 01, 2015 07:13 PM |
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leiah2 said:
Pixie:
Great model actually, even better if there had been
three small pixies in a group. But why do they have to explain every single thing a creature does? that the reason fo their non retaliation ability is that they shoot pollen at enemies so they sneeze and cough?
That's a good example why I dodn't bother to read the descriptions. Ashan lore at its finest 
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 07:26 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
That's a good example why I dodn't bother to read the descriptions. Ashan lore at its finest
True dat.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 07:46 PM |
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That's how it always been with pixies. They're supposed to be a multitude but they're represented with one (in older games that was the reason for "No Retaliation")
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 08:10 PM |
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Edited by ChrisD1 at 20:19, 01 Jul 2015.
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well well well, they did release the 3d models! pleasantly surpirsed by them. my only complaint (god forbid if there isn't any complaint in this page) is the creature abilities. they oversimplified! and is movement reduction such a big thing in this game that EVERY creature in the game needs to be unfettered???? or are they just lazy?
and the druid looks cool and no green eyes. someone was just lazy with the brush. and not overdone at all. this 3d models are the best we've seen!
people complaining about lore again.. *sigh... you just can't win with certain people ,can you?
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MeanMan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 08:28 PM |
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Edited by MeanMan at 20:32, 01 Jul 2015.
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Most 3D models look great. I'm in love with the Druids, I didn't expect it too look so good. Now if they just made the green eyes normal they would be even better. Dryads look good too. The Treant is amazing, however I think the upgrade glows a little too much. The Bladedancer is okay, but it has core unit written all over it. Doesn't look like an elite unit at all. The obvious disappointment is the upgraded Dragon. Looks completly underwhelming compared to it's lesser version.
On another topic, I have two things I'm a little afraid of with this line up:
First, I fear the Pixies role in combat will be a little redundant. They don't look like good damage dealers or tanks and they don't have any abilities that adds anything substantial to the army either. Their only ability to avoid retaliation could be made less useful than it sounds if they don't hit hard enough. At this point I think their main role will be to just annoy the enemy a little unitl till it gets destroyed.
Secondly, both of the Dryad's ability are tied to the Treant. All (adjacent?) allies benefit from it's shield, but it seems they will only emit when close to Treants. And the heal obviously also requires Treants. Considering this, I fear you are more or less forced to go with Treants as your champions to make the most out of this unit, or go with the Dragon but settle with another unit who doesn't add anything susbstantial to the armies strength other than just being there to maybe attract a little enemy fire.
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:13 PM |
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MeanMan said:
Secondly, both of the Dryad's ability are tied to the Treant. All (adjacent?) allies benefit from it's shield, but it seems they will only emit when close to Treants. And the heal obviously also requires Treants. Considering this, I fear you are more or less forced to go with Treants as your champions to make the most out of this unit, or go with the Dragon but settle with another unit who doesn't add anything susbstantial to the armies strength other than just being there to maybe attract a little enemy fire.
Concerning how the Oak Dryad's resurrection bit specifically refers to Mother Treants, I'm thinking that maybe Mother Treants are the healing support unit, with Oak Dryads not only being healed mid-combat, but also resurrected.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted July 01, 2015 09:16 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
they would have been female, i think.
Not sure most of us would have cared to be honest.
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"Don't resist the force. Redirect it. Water over rock."-blizzardboy
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MeanMan
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:20 PM |
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Kimarous said:
MeanMan said:
Secondly, both of the Dryad's ability are tied to the Treant. All (adjacent?) allies benefit from it's shield, but it seems they will only emit when close to Treants. And the heal obviously also requires Treants. Considering this, I fear you are more or less forced to go with Treants as your champions to make the most out of this unit, or go with the Dragon but settle with another unit who doesn't add anything susbstantial to the armies strength other than just being there to maybe attract a little enemy fire.
Concerning how the Oak Dryad's resurrection bit specifically refers to Mother Treants, I'm thinking that maybe Mother Treants are the healing support unit, with Oak Dryads not only being healed mid-combat, but also resurrected.
I thought the bit with the mother treants was a mistake and that they meant the champion unit, but you could be right. Could be neat then.
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:33 PM |
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ChrisD1 said:
people complaining about lore again.. *sigh... you just can't win with certain people ,can you?
I know many people might have complained too much about the lore
but I'm not one of them. This was basically the first post that
I even mentioned Ashan lore. I just said that I see it like if you
can come up with some good background and explanation to why they
have certain abilities that is great, but they should not force
themselves to come up with an explanation. I'd rather see no
explanation than a ridiculous one.
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:40 PM |
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MeanMan said:
First, I fear the Pixies role in combat will be a little redundant. They don't look like good damage dealers or tanks and they don't have any abilities that adds anything substantial to the army either. Their only ability to avoid retaliation could be made less useful than it sounds if they don't hit hard enough. At this point I think their main role will be to just annoy the enemy a little unitl till it gets destroyed.
Secondly, both of the Dryad's ability are tied to the Treant. All (adjacent?) allies benefit from it's shield, but it seems they will only emit when close to Treants. And the heal obviously also requires Treants. Considering this, I fear you are more or less forced to go with Treants as your champions to make the most out of this unit, or go with the Dragon but settle with another unit who doesn't add anything susbstantial to the armies strength other than just being there to maybe attract a little enemy fire.
Sprites probably will be the same they always have been, fast and numerous fliers.
I'm not sure if Dryads are getting a ressurection spell or getting ressurected themselves.
Gryphs said:
GenyaArikado said:
they would have been female, i think.
Not sure most of us would have cared to be honest.
i know, i'm just saying. They seemed to be really into making the lineup have 3 girls.
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jhb
Famous Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 09:48 PM |
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Edited by jhb at 22:26, 01 Jul 2015.
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MeanMan said:
Secondly, both of the Dryad's ability are tied to the Treant. All (adjacent?) allies benefit from it's shield, but it seems they will only emit when close to Treants. And the heal obviously also requires Treants. Considering this, I fear you are more or less forced to go with Treants as your champions to make the most out of this unit, or go with the Dragon but settle with another unit who doesn't add anything susbstantial to the armies strength other than just being there to maybe attract a little enemy fire.
I think dragons will be an interesting option for magic users, it is immune to earth, then you can use those poison clouds more freely. It also comes with a built in regeneration, so looks like it will be a pretty good stand alone unit. While treants will have more focus on synergies. I'm guessing it will be a crowd control tanking machine with both roots and shelter, including the extra dryad support.
If I remember right, the only direct synergy ability is "Treant Synergy", the other one called "Gift of Life" is related with Mother Treants which is a warfare unit, like Kimarous said.
As for pixies, what Genya said. In e3 video they were in great numbers, it will be our traditional swarm of fast flyers.
edit: dat bladedancer got moves. 
Idk why they trimmed emerald dragon's vegetation. 
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