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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted July 01, 2015 10:03 PM |
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GenyaArikado said:
That's how it always been with pixies. They're supposed to be a multitude but they're represented with one (in older games that was the reason for "No Retaliation")
The reason for HoMM3 Sprites' No Reataliation ability was this:
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Within the land of Antagrich, Pixies and Sprites have found a home within the walls of the Conflux. These flying creatures are usually found in great numbers and possess great quickness, preventing their enemies from counterstriking.
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 10:13 PM |
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Avonu said:
GenyaArikado said:
That's how it always been with pixies. They're supposed to be a multitude but they're represented with one (in older games that was the reason for "No Retaliation")
The reason for HoMM3 Sprites' No Reataliation ability was this:
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Within the land of Antagrich, Pixies and Sprites have found a home within the walls of the Conflux. These flying creatures are usually found in great numbers and possess great quickness, preventing their enemies from counterstriking.
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Within the land of Antagrich, Pixies and Sprites have found a home within the walls of the Conflux. These flying creatures are usually found in great numbers and possess great quickness, preventing their enemies from counterstriking.
I read it as "being quick and numerous makes enemies unable to counterattack. IIRC H4 said something like that too and while H5 doesnt outright say it's a swarm of sprites attacking, it mentions too their small size when referencing the "no retaliation" passive
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted July 01, 2015 10:16 PM |
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Edited by Avonu at 22:23, 01 Jul 2015.
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All these is in manual. There are two separate descriptions for Pixies and Sprites. Sprites are "so quick, that enemy can't retaliate" (sorry, my manual is not in English).
EDIT:
HoMM5 said:
Their [Pixies] swift attacks can hit more than one creature, and their small size and speed make retaliation impossible.
EDIT2:
HoMM3 said:
L'attaque des fees [Sprites] est si rapide que leurs ennemies n'ont jamais le temps de riposter
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"When someone desires information, they come to me."
"Details are everything."
Pipiru piru piru pipiru pi!
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted July 01, 2015 10:21 PM |
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From the English manual:
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Pixies & Sprites
Within the land of Antagrich, Pixies and Sprites have found a home within the walls of the Conflux. These flying creatures are usually found in large numbers and possess great quickness. Sprites strike so quickly, they prevent their enemies from counterstriking.
So it's because of their speed.
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 10:39 PM |
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In combat, Sprites can also spread “Pixie Dust”, a form of pollen that causes the enemy to itch, sneeze and cough, preventing him from retaliating.
This is from Sylvan page at mmh7. (FACEPALM)
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 01, 2015 10:49 PM |
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as someone allergic to pollen i can say that's just evil 
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Datapack
Famous Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 10:51 PM |
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Quote:
In combat, Sprites can also spread “Pixie Dust”, a form of pollen that causes the enemy to itch, sneeze and cough, preventing him from retaliating.
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The switfness and small size of the Sprites make them impossible to retaliate.
Both these are on the pixie page, looks like they cant decide themselves.
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leiah2
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 10:58 PM |
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Edited by leiah2 at 23:03, 01 Jul 2015.
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Yeah, couldn't they just have decided to keep the comment about them being small and swift and skipped out on the rubbish about pollen.
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The Oak Dryads have such a close relationship to Treants that Mother Treants can literality offer their own lifeforce to them, allowing them resurrection.
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“As Dryads are spirits, it is very hard to destroy them for good. Like Nature itself, I suppose…”
and this makes me believe that as some have suggested Mother Treant
is one of the Warmachines of Sylvan and that they can resurrect
Dryads. It's probably the Sylvan ''Healing tent''.
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jhb
Famous Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 11:20 PM |
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Edited by jhb at 23:35, 01 Jul 2015.
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From Sylvan TS page:
Warfare Units
Garden Of The Sacred Seed: Allows to recruit support warfare unit.
Archery Platform: Provides the town with 3 towers in siege combats.
Blacksmith: Allows to recruit attack warfare unit.
I wonder what will be the catapult.
@Minastir
oh, nice! 
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Minastir
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 11:28 PM |
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jhb said:
From Sylvan TS page:
Warfare Units
Garden Of The Sacred Seed: Allows to recruit support warfare unit.
Archery Platform: Provides the town with 3 towers in siege combats.
Blacksmith: Allows to recruit attack warfare unit.
I wonder what will be the catapult.
Greater Earth Elemental is catapult, it was in beta files and it is now on website look at the picture url
https://ubistatic-a.akamaihd.net/0004/prod/images/units/sylvan/PIC_creature_sylvan_greaterearthelemental.png
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alexine
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2015 11:29 PM |
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Haha that pix description is hilarious, they have no retailation because enemy is on sneeze ? 
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We´re beautiful like diamonds in the sky ...
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted July 01, 2015 11:47 PM |
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I agree with what others have said here: Blade Dancer model is a positive surprise, Dragon is pretty disappointing. Generally though, the models look really good.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 02, 2015 12:05 AM |
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- Hunter looks great but the ear twiching is a bit too much. Brings to mind a donkey trying to shake off flies and I really wish I was not reminded of the embarrassing H5 donkey ears.. The upgrade shooting two arrows at once looks ridiculous. I hope it's a critical hit animation rather than a regular attack. Why are they so itchy, pixie dust? 
- Pixies look amazing. Tasteful, with beautiful colours. The upgrade is overdone but I can live with that. I hope they will look shorter than the hunter, their model looked rather big in that E3 video. The animation suggests they claw at the opponent? I hope there will be some kind of magical effect, the sprites have never been a physical attacker as that would look awkward.
Regarding balance, I wonder if pixies should not have no enemy retaliation to begin with. Such units tend to be useless unless upgraded which doesn't give you a real choice.
- Dryads are rather beautiful, glad they are not as monochrome as their concept art. But the upgrade is hardly distinguishable from the original.. Have you considered a different tone of colour? You really can't tell them apart from a distance. I'm glad their synergy extends to the mother treant instead of just the champion treant but the fact that warmachines target randomly is.. problematic. Only someone who plans to invest in warmachines or treants can make use of the dryad abilities and that is a real waste..
- Druids are great. Love their agility and swiftness, you can tell they are elven. Nice tasteful dress too. The purple on the upgrade works better than in the artwork which is a bonus. What I don't like are those bright green glowing eyes, they look unnatural.
I like the idea of thorns. Actually, I have long hoped for such effects to be part of the battlefield. Puddles of water, bushes with thorns, mud, frozen ground.. They are less intrusive than obstacles and would make the battlefield feel more organic. Something to consider for an addon?
- The Moon doe is fine apart from the fact that it looks so plain and ordinary.. Being blue is about the only special thing about it. The sun deer looks a lot less special than the artwork which is disappointing. But my real complaint are those awkward attack animations. They are horrible and devoid of grace. Any chance they will be improved? Maybe a solar beam? At this rate laser shooting from their eyes would be a lot more preferable
- Blade dancer is the biggest improvement. Great animation reflecting their mobility, footwork and sword mastery, much better stance. Upgrade is still overdone with too much of everything but.. much better than the artwork. But why so many feathers, they look too much like an Indian. The problem is they do not look like elite units, just like swordbearers do not look like champion units. Perhaps that is because you focus on everything looking awesome to the point that some cores could pass as elites visually. That can make certain elites feel underwhelming.
- The Greed dragon is great, like a rocky brontosaurus with plant growth  But the upgrade just looks bad. Face becomes worse. Emerald scales are few and far between. It actually looks more plain than the basic unit! If you want to take away the bushes from the upgrade that's fine but at least make up for it with emerald scales. Make it look majestic to behond, light particles alone cannot do that!
- Treants are my absolute favourite and I did not even care about them at first! Simply amazing! But the upgrade is plain atrocious. So much lightshow hurts my eyes!! Seriously, just drop the blue glow altogether. The huge bubbly light particles too. Very distracting, they ruin an otherwise amazing unit. The longer tusks, denser branches and leaves of a deeper green are enough.
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted July 02, 2015 01:11 AM |
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alexine said:
Haha that pix description is hilarious, they have no retailation because enemy is on sneeze ?
And not a single thought was given that constructs cannot sneeze.
Unless we are talking about Ashan again...
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 01:36 AM |
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EnergyZ said:
alexine said:
Haha that pix description is hilarious, they have no retailation because enemy is on sneeze ?
And not a single thought was given that constructs cannot sneeze.
Unless we are talking about Ashan again...
Constructs (golems, gargoyles, colossi), fellow sprites, Treants... plus potentially the entire Necropolis faction (with particular attention to skeletons and Grim Riders)...
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 10:12 AM |
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Living organisms sneeze and don't retaliate. Constructs,undead etc don't retaliate because of quickness. How's that?
What? You can't blame ashan for that,with the said explanation? Oh ok.. Sorry, ignore and keep on
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 02, 2015 10:15 AM |
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constructs and undead are people too! Of course they sneeze you prejudiced snow #Ashan
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted July 02, 2015 10:26 AM |
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kiryu133 said:
constructs and undead are people too! Of course they sneeze you prejudiced snow #Ashan
They have rights!!end the discrimintion!!
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted July 02, 2015 10:39 AM |
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Elvin said:
*snip*
Very much agree with your analysis. Would like to add:
- Green/Emerald Dragon: Wtf. is with that attack animation!?
- Green Dragon and Treant in addition to the Druid: Please leave it with the glowing eyes.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted July 02, 2015 10:41 AM |
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but how will we know they're magical!?
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