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Heroes Community > Other Side of the Monitor > Thread: Racism, Policing, Political Correctness, and Civil Unrest
Thread: Racism, Policing, Political Correctness, and Civil Unrest This thread is 10 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 · «PREV

Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
posted April 02, 2018 12:09 PM

No, I mean, the "who cares what we think" part. I have nothing against getting more informed about any subject, but that's rather proportional with how much time you have invest in things and it is inevitable to compromise some things for others, especially in these times of internet.
i challenge ANYONE to prove me wrong. you CANNOT. -fred

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Undefeatable Hero
posted April 02, 2018 12:57 PM

I agree with that statement - but that means, opinions are pretty tentative as a consequence.

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Undefeatable Hero
posted April 02, 2018 08:23 PM

if you guys are going to derail the thread with off-topic existential babble, you can at least make an attempt to be entertaining. i mean, ffs. not asking for much, here. you guys are mundane-ing up my thread.

and don't forget, jayjay-z and stephan, that i called you out as nazis. NEVAR forget!

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Undefeatable Hero
posted April 09, 2018 12:31 AM

cop clearly oversteps his boundaries as a "man of the law".

A body-cam video that shows a New Jersey state trooper conducting a roadside strip search has raised questions about how far law enforcement officers are permitted to go during a traffic stop.

Trooper Joseph Drew pulled a car over for tailgating and said he smelled marijuana. When a search of the car turned up nothing, he handcuffed the driver and told him to step out of the vehicle.

"You can tell me where it is right now or I can go in and get it," Drew says on the video.

The trooper is then seen pulling on blue latex gloves, reaching into the driver's underwear, and groping his genitals and buttocks while the two stand on Route 206 in Southampton, Burlington County. All the while, trucks and cars pass by on the busy highway.

The driver, a 23-year-old Toms River, N.J., man, insisted several times he had no marijuana and said he doubted such a search was legal.

No drugs were found in the man's car or on his body, and in the end he was issued a ticket for tailgating. The driver has filed notice of intention to sue, alleging that he was sexually assaulted and that his civil rights were violated.

In the video, the driver can be heard protesting that he is being sexually assaulted as the trooper repeatedly touches his genitals during a four-minute search of the man's underwear.

Earlier, the trooper checked the man's pockets and socks and ordered him to turn over drugs, the video shows. Then he told him, "If you think this is the worst I'm going to do, you have another thing coming, my friend."

Experts in policing were critical of the trooper's actions.

Maria Haberfeld, a professor of policing and police ethics at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and an author of several books on the subject, said the search was unwarranted.

"To reach into someone's underwear, it has to be for a really good reason, not for marijuana," she said. "In the times when marijuana has been legalized in state after state, this is some kind of erratic police behavior and it's very much about discretion, so even if you can do things, should you be doing them?"

State Police Internal Affairs is investigating the incident, which occurred on March 8, 2017. Drew and a backup trooper, Andrew Whitmore, are still on patrol pending the outcome of that inquiry. Neither could be reached for comment, and their union, the New Jersey State Police Fraternal Association, said it would have to check with its lawyer before releasing any statement on the matter.

The incident came to light last week, when the video was posted on the website of John Paff, who heads New Jersey Libertarians for Transparency, an open-government group. Paff obtained the body-cam and dashcam videos of both troopers after filing open public records requests in January. He was checking the court docket, as he does routinely, and came across the driver's legal filing.

The video shocked him. "It was extreme, in my view, because of the cavalier attitude, the way this cop acted," he said. "This is outrageous."

Lt. Theodore Schafer, a state police spokesman, declined to comment on the search and would not say whether troopers have the authority to conduct such searches under such circumstances. He said he could not release the agency's policy on searches, saying it is not public record.

Arthur Lang, an attorney who represents the driver, said in court documents that he has been unable to obtain a copy of the policy despite several requests made in the past three months. Last month, he filed a motion seeking a court order to compel the state police to provide it.

Efforts to reach the driver were unsuccessful. The Philadelphia Inquirer and Daily News are withholding the man's name because they do not identify victims of alleged sexual assault without their permission.

Schafer said troopers must follow the rules outlined in a policy issued by the state attorney general, but he said the state police also have detailed requirements of their own on how and when to conduct searches.

The Attorney General's Office has a strip search and body cavity search policy that is 23 years old and contains a very general list of "requirements and procedures" for law enforcement officers to follow. A spokesman for the office, Peter Aseltine, declined to elaborate or respond to general questions about such searches.

"I am not authorized to interpret the requirements and procedures, and we do not have any further comment," Aseltine wrote in an e-mail. He also declined to comment on the search conducted by the trooper.

The attorney general's policy says anyone who is detained or arrested, but not placed in jail, may not be strip or body cavity searched without a search warrant or consent and authorization by a superior. However, in emergencies, such searches may be performed if law enforcement officers have "probable cause to believe that the person is concealing a weapon, contraband or evidence of crime."

The policy also says strip searches must be "conducted by person of same sex ... in private ... under sanitary conditions and ... in a professional and dignified manner."

Body cavity searches should not be performed unless someone is jailed, the policy says in bold letters. Such a search is defined as a "visual inspection or manual search of a person's anal cavity, vaginal cavity." In this case, the driver contends that he was subjected to a strip search and visual body cavity search.

Amol Sinha, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey, said troopers must have probable cause for such a search and said "it's debatable whether the smell of marijuana is sufficient." He said he was appalled that the search was conducted "on a roadside in a humiliating and undignified way" and that the justification for that was the odor of marijuana.

In Sinha's view, the case illustrates the need to legalize marijuana. "These are exactly the kinds of harms that can occur when the state is dead set on enforcing unjust marijuana laws," he said. Such laws ruin people's lives, he said, because they end up with criminal records for possessing a substance deemed by health experts to be less harmful than alcohol or tobacco.

Lang, the driver's lawyer, said in court filings that the state police and prosecutors did not provide his client with the videos until 10 months after the incident occurred, despite frequent requests.

In order to sue the state police, the driver must first file a tort claim asking the court to waive the government's immunity against lawsuits. The 90-day deadline for filing that claim has expired, but Lang said the court should allow the claim to go forward because the state police have not given him the information he needs to proceed.

The tort claim seeks permission to sue Drew and Whitmore, a desk sergeant who may have approved the search when Drew radioed him from the road, and state police.

In court filings, the Attorney General's Office argued that the claim should be dismissed because it was filed late. "Ignorance of the law is not an excuse," it said.

odd, i think; that the philadelphia inquirer is scanned for stories for msn. i had to double-check the authenticity of the story, before posting here.

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