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edeksumo
edeksumo

Tavern Dweller
posted September 23, 2015 11:25 PM
Edited by edeksumo at 23:26, 23 Sep 2015.

[VCMI]Bastion

I think the time has come, after many years (probably 10 xD), on the world came out town, expected by many, the symbol of WoG, now with possibility of VCMI it arises from the ashes. I have the honor to share you the Egyptian Bastion. The concept underwent many changeshas helped me with that a lot of people, and I thank them. Now some facts modification adds:
- New faction (bastion), together with the whole line-up and, heroes, objects on the map, commander etc.
- new unit neutral (scarab), along with habitat on the map
- 5 new artifacts (some not so new)
- Conservatory creatures (Ziggurat protected by sphinxes)
- 2 heroes of campaign (Ama'ka and Ja'Bak)
I guess all the news. Here's a few screenshots:





I would like to especially thank the following people, without whom bastion that was not such a form as now:
Nephretes,
J. M. Sower,
Hobbit,
Kuririn,
Witchking,
Trith,
Mitlandy
I think it's everything I wanted to convey. So here's the link and I wish you have fun.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1x0rwuyvmgfwmbj/Forgotten%20Tales.zip?dl=0

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Stevie
Stevie


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
posted September 23, 2015 11:30 PM

This is like Christmas
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fred79
fred79


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted September 23, 2015 11:38 PM
Edited by fred79 at 23:47, 23 Sep 2015.

cool, very nice work. i recommend a qp for everyone involved.

question: who did the water animation work for the townscreen, and what program did they use?

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edeksumo
edeksumo

Tavern Dweller
posted September 23, 2015 11:52 PM
Edited by edeksumo at 23:52, 23 Sep 2015.

It's original water, taken from some gif, sended by DJ from HC, and edited by me.

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fred79
fred79


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
SCOURGE OF THE H-SEA
posted September 23, 2015 11:53 PM

you mean, it's from one of the original HoMM3 towns? if so, i'm gonna smack myself.

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edeksumo
edeksumo

Tavern Dweller
posted September 23, 2015 11:56 PM

XD this water came from oryginal bastion town, shered on some gif, and I edit them with gimp (add some shadow for Cave Of Fear).

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted September 24, 2015 12:00 AM

Nice work, a pity that cave of fear screws the perfection.
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Haregar
Haregar


Famous Hero
of destruction
posted September 24, 2015 06:07 PM

Oh my... at long last, after all those years it finally was released... the legendary Bastion town who made me hyped as hell years ago! Congratulations, it's even better than Christmas! I agree with fred79 that all people involved in this project should get +QP. Once more guys, excellent work and thank you for the new town.

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Paulemile
Paulemile


Known Hero
posted September 24, 2015 08:31 PM

Holy mother of a Master Gremlin. This is so awesome.
Long live VCMI !

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Wakkler
Wakkler

Tavern Dweller
posted October 11, 2015 09:50 PM

Many thanks for finally realising this great town! I have a few comments, however:
- The town is too strong. I did some tests against other towns, and bastion always wins. Especially Lvl 5,6 and 7 are too strong.
- Unit specific traits could be more unique, i think. Is there a way in VCMI to add new unit powers? Original Bastion lineup had some nice ideas already, i think, like Ammuts getting stronger with killed units, Overseers generating Gold and the priests stealing spells. I also really liked the elephant and their ability to crush walls while getting more damage from lvl 1 creatures. Such unique abilities would add much to the town in my opinion. Please keep updating and improving this town!

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orzie
orzie


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Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
posted October 11, 2015 10:14 PM

Quote:
I would like to especially thank the following people, without whom bastion that was not such a form as now:
Nephretes,
J. M. Sower,
Hobbit,
Kuririn,
Witchking,
Trith,
Mitlandy

Didn't you forget anyone? Perhaps, the real creators of the Bastion?

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edeksumo
edeksumo

Tavern Dweller
posted October 11, 2015 10:26 PM

Probably if you download this mod, you would see I don't forget about them.

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Antalis
Antalis

Tavern Dweller
posted October 13, 2015 11:58 AM

edeksumo said:
I think the time has come, after many years (probably 10 xD), on the world came out town, expected by many, the symbol of WoG, now with possibility of VCMI it arises from the ashes. I have the honor to share you the Egyptian Bastion. The concept underwent many changeshas helped me with that a lot of people, and I thank them. Now some facts modification adds:
- New faction (bastion), together with the whole line-up and, heroes, objects on the map, commander etc.
- new unit neutral (scarab), along with habitat on the map
- 5 new artifacts (some not so new)
- Conservatory creatures (Ziggurat protected by sphinxes)
- 2 heroes of campaign (Ama'ka and Ja'Bak)
I would like to especially thank the following people, without whom bastion that was not such a form as now:
Nephretes,
J. M. Sower,
Hobbit,
Kuririn,
Witchking,
Trith,
Mitlandy
I think it's everything I wanted to convey. So here's the link and I wish you have fun.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1x0rwuyvmgfwmbj/Forgotten%20Tales.zip?dl=0

Some questions.
1) What's wrong was with elephant?
2) Two lion-based creatures... Is it really good idea?
3) NTG-team is not active, but wog-forum still alive. I think, contact with members of NTG can help. Or they can say stop.
It was their project, graphics, ideas - not random garbage from net.


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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 01:11 PM

Antalis said:

3) NTG-team is not active, but wog-forum still alive. I think, contact with members of NTG can help. Or they can say stop.
It was their project, graphics, ideas - not random garbage from net.


Did they have copyrighted them?
You want to take away Bastion from players?
There is only town screen graphics, that was made to Bastion team. But it is based not on NTG team files, but only on screenshots freely available on Net and published by NTG. It's fair use.


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Antalis
Antalis

Tavern Dweller
posted October 13, 2015 01:34 PM
Edited by Antalis at 13:36, 13 Oct 2015.

Macron1 said:

Did they have copyrighted them?


It is important? There is a difference between the author and the owner of the rights. Rights can be sold. Stop being an author is much more difficult.
Macron1 said:

You want to take away Bastion from players?


Tell me more about me and my wishes. More offtopic for the offtopic god!
Macron1 said:

There is only town screen graphics, that was made to Bastion team. But it is based not on NTG team files, but only on screenshots freely available on Net and published by NTG. It's fair use.


I believe that NTG have a better picture and edeksumo can get it. Mutual respect for mutual benefit.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 01:57 PM

Antalis said:
There is a difference between the author and the owner of the rights. Rights can be sold. Stop being an author is much more difficult.


I believe that NTG have a better picture and edeksumo can get it. Mutual respect for mutual benefit.


Nobody wants to steal authorship of townscreen. Original TS creators are mentioned in mod info.

If NTG wanted to share better picture, they could done this long time ago. Corwin still thinks it's no time to publish DEF files for TS.
Bianor's Bastion graphics is published, thanks to him, we have portaits and sekhmeth priestess (he was part of Bastion team).
PS Hope, in Bastion mod Bianor as author is mentioned (i am not at home, so cannot look to Bastion files now).

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Antalis
Antalis

Tavern Dweller
posted October 13, 2015 02:25 PM

Macron1 said:

Nobody wants to steal authorship of townscreen. Original TS creators are mentioned in mod info.

I'm not interested in stealing. I do not like cheating.
On the label is written Bastion. Inside is clearly something else. Give me Bastion or change the name. You can write "inspired Bastion".

Macron1 said:

If NTG wanted to share better picture, they could done this long time ago. Corwin still thinks it's no time to publish DEF files for TS.

More about other people's desires? Are you psychic or medium? I'm not. I would have just asked.

Macron1 said:

Bianor's Bastion graphics is published, thanks to him, we have portaits and sekhmeth priestess (he was part of Bastion team).

Well, the seventh level Bianor did too. Where is it?

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 02:32 PM
Edited by Macron1 at 14:43, 13 Oct 2015.

Antalis said:

On the label is written Bastion. Inside is clearly something else. Give me Bastion or change the name. You can write "inspired Bastion".



Ok, i run this mod, go to townscreen and see Bastion. How can i call it else? Is name "Bastion" is copyrighted? In polish language "Rampart" is called "Bastion" also, NTG must immideately rename "Bastion" to something else.
PS It's called "Polish Bastion".
PPS In russian dictionaries "Bastion" is "army fortification in form of pentagram. Both polish and NTG bastions are four-corner fortifications, it's already not fit to name "Bastion"

Antalis said:

More about other people's desires? Are you psychic or medium? I'm not. I would have just asked.



He said it himself on wforum.heroes35.net. No magic or telepathy was used.

Antalis said:

Well, the seventh level Bianor did too. Where is it?

Creators of mod decided to redraw Anibises (Bianor Anubises attack animation was not finished).

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Antalis
Antalis

Tavern Dweller
posted October 13, 2015 03:54 PM

Macron1 said:
Ok, i run this mod, go to townscreen and see Bastion. How can i call it else? Is name "Bastion" is copyrighted? In polish language "Rampart" is called "Bastion" also, NTG must immideately rename "Bastion" to something else.


Well, is name "Macron1" is copyrighted? What will you feel if somebody logs on this forum under the name Macron1? Not your account but similar. With avatar like your. It will be pleased when you are confused with each other?

Is it hard to be polite, not to create trouble?

Macron1 said:

PS It's called "Polish Bastion".


Really? I see [VCMI]Bastion.

[VCMI] translated as Polish?

Say it is just a coincidence. Say that Bastion is the most obvious name for a desert castle. Not a pyramid, not an oasis...

Macron1 said:

He said it himself on wforum.heroes35.net. No magic or telepathy was used.


Who?

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 03:58 PM
Edited by Macron1 at 16:00, 13 Oct 2015.

Antalis said:

Well, is name "Macron1" is copyrighted? What will you feel if somebody logs on this forum under the name Macron1? Not your account but similar. With avatar like your. It will be pleased when you are confused with each other?



Anyone can call himself "Macron1".
http://macron-1.diary.ru/
I cannot forbid using name.

Quote:
Is it hard to be polite, not to create trouble?


I don't have slave mentality.

Macron1 said:


Who?


Corwin, author of Bastion townscreen.

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