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orzie
orzie


Promising
Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
posted October 13, 2015 05:07 PM
Edited by orzie at 17:07, 13 Oct 2015.

Quote:
Corwin knows, that he is not a coordinator?

Try to contact the actual author of the graphics. Like you have been told, authorship is not the same as right holding.

Anyway, with your manner of speech, I would never give you anything even if I was ready otherwise.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 05:08 PM

orzie said:
Macron is stubborn anyway and he would anyway steal from his mother if it wasn't prohibited by Constitution. So let it go.

So constituion forbids me to steal from my mother.
But not forbids SW team to steal from Ubisoft

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orzie
orzie


Promising
Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
posted October 13, 2015 05:09 PM

We didn't steal anything, lol. We advertise 2 payable games at once by 1 free mod.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 05:11 PM

orzie said:

Anyway, with your manner of speech, I would never give you anything even if I was ready otherwise.



That's tragedy.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 05:13 PM

orzie said:
We didn't steal anything, lol. We advertise 2 payable games at once by 1 free mod.


Interesting logic. Abibas is not contrafact, it advertises Adidas.
5% of commercial copyrighted graphics - is fair use,
95% - is piracy.

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orzie
orzie


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Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
posted October 13, 2015 05:16 PM
Edited by orzie at 17:19, 13 Oct 2015.

Macron1 said:
orzie said:
We didn't steal anything, lol. We advertise 2 payable games at once by 1 free mod.


Interesting logic. Abibas is not contrafact, it advertises Adidas.
5% of commercial copyrighted graphics - is fair use,
95% - is piracy.


Demagogy again. Abibas is selling its goods so it simply steals the profit from Adidas.

H3SW is a freely distributed mod which differs from both games and doesn't replace any of them. Moreover, it requires one of them so users anyway pay to Ubisoft once more.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 05:19 PM

orzie said:

H3SW is a freely distributed mod which differs from both games and doesn't replace any of them.

It steals money from Ubisoft because users do not buy HMM2 or HMM3, and use SW mod.

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orzie
orzie


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Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
posted October 13, 2015 05:20 PM

H3SW doesn't work without H3, silly. It's a modification.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 05:28 PM

orzie said:
H3SW doesn't work without H3, silly. It's a modification.

Never seen any SW mod version not including original exe's and assets and demanding separate installation of Hmm2/Hmm3.

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Antalis
Antalis

Tavern Dweller
posted October 13, 2015 05:33 PM

Macron1 said:

Corwin still thinks it's no time to publish DEF files for TS.

http://wforum.heroes35.net/showthread.php?tid=550&pid=82213#pid82213

"По этому выкладывать или передавать наработки людям пока не хочу."
translation
"So don't want to pubilsh or share assets to others."



You know the Russian language or read with the help of Google translator? If you have difficulties with the translation of the text, the date of the message you are able to read?
I will highlight for you individually.

16.01.2014

This is more than a year ago. Much could change.

In the text there is mention VCMI.

"пусть для ВСМИ, но город будет в изначальном виде собран и выпущен командой НТГ."

"Suppose that for VCMI, but the city will be in the original form compiled and released by NTG team."

It was possible to negotiate with him. The whole year was for it.

Let's agree not happen. Then we know that the founders did not agree. Why then make a bad copy of Bastion? Oasis need help. Or you can make your own desert city and name it as you like.

Macron1 said:

Corwin, author of Bastion townscreen.



Formally, this is false. Technically, you're a liar.

Macron1 said:

OK, seems that the best way for polish modders to rename Bastion to something other, so zealots of copyrights of non-copyrighted works will be pleased.

It will be right


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orzie
orzie


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Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
posted October 13, 2015 05:39 PM

Macron1 said:
orzie said:
H3SW doesn't work without H3, silly. It's a modification.

Never seen any SW mod version not including original exe's and assets and demanding separate installation of Hmm2/Hmm3.

Open your eyes and visit ERA Mods Thread here in the WoG forum. ERA Portable Mod is ERA Portable Mod. It doesn't work without H3.

The H3SW Team never distributed a standalone game as long as I am its coordinator and is not going to do so. Read our installation instructions properly.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 05:50 PM

orzie said:
The H3SW Team never distributed a standalone game as long as I am its coordinator and is not going to do so


The only released public SW Beta version is standalone version.

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orzie
orzie


Promising
Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
posted October 13, 2015 05:54 PM

Did you even download it?

It's an ERA Portable mod. It doesn't contain any executables.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 05:54 PM

Antalis said:

Formally, this is false. Technically, you're a liar.




Formally you are liar:

http://heroes3towns.com/?town=bastion&page=project

"Участники (активные) (translation - Active members):

Corwin координатор, графика    translation - coordinator, graphics"

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orzie
orzie


Promising
Supreme Hero
Reinventing the Steel
posted October 13, 2015 05:56 PM

Formally you are a demagog linking to the unofficial source instead of the official one.

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elaf
elaf


Adventuring Hero
posted October 13, 2015 06:40 PM

well people,

I do not care if I play a mod in secret because the original author not publish or authorize them.

there is my "bastion" beta town made for vcmi, take this and do anything you want.

https://mega.nz/#!p1EDXaDJ!CpGDQpE_06O2uXXxImfK9wK87m2A-znW9XiQu1r7LeU

it contains, mummy from heroes4 and sacred scarab, etc... take a look.




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Antalis
Antalis

Tavern Dweller
posted October 13, 2015 07:22 PM
Edited by Antalis at 19:23, 13 Oct 2015.

Macron1 said:
Antalis said:

Formally, this is false. Technically, you're a liar.




Formally you are liar:

http://heroes3towns.com/?town=bastion&page=project

"Участники (активные) (translation - Active members):

Corwin координатор, графика    translation - coordinator, graphics"


Well, Corwin made some units (second level, fifth level).
Supkrovi made townscreen. Now explain to me how the authorship is passed from one to another.

Macron1 said:

Corwin, author of Bastion townscreen.



Aristotle long been inactive. Now you are the author of Analytics and the Organon?

You could write, "one of the authors of the Bastion", but for some reason chose to lie.

At the same time, you did not hesitate to attribute to me the desires of others, wrongly accused me that I'm a liar and a troll, and hinted that I think like a slave. Not bad.

You are funny.


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fred79
fred79


Promising
Undefeatable Hero
posted October 13, 2015 07:31 PM

why is there so much infighting going on? are you guys not satisfied that mods are available? you guys really need to knock that snow off. we're a community of modders; the more we fight amongst each other, the less this community will have to share with one another, because of stupid grudges and grievances. seriously, give the bullsnow a rest.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted October 13, 2015 07:41 PM

Antalis said:
Macron1 said:
Antalis said:

Formally, this is false. Technically, you're a liar.




Well, Corwin made some units (second level, fifth level).
Supkrovi made townscreen. Now explain to me how the authorship is passed from one to another.




OK, give proof, that Supkrovi is an author of current townscreen view.
If you mean this topic (http://forum.df2.ru/index.php?showtopic=355), there is no picture available. So this is not proof at all. There were few other Bastion townscreen renders.
PS If you are right, then there is no need to ask Corwin for permission, just Supkrovi needed to be asked for graphics.

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Antalis
Antalis

Tavern Dweller
posted October 13, 2015 08:03 PM

Macron1 said:

OK, give proof, that Supkrovi is an author of current townscreen view.
If you mean this topic (http://forum.df2.ru/index.php?showtopic=355), there is no picture available. So this is not proof at all. There were few other Bastion townscreen renders.
PS If you are right, then there is no need to ask Corwin for permission, just Supkrovi needed to be asked for graphics.



I have no need to prove.If you would like to believe that I am a liar - it satisfy me. I need to know the truth for myself. I know the truth, because once upon a time I was a member of NTG. Mantiss, at your service.

By the way, I have a much better townscreen. I do not have a very good relationship with Corwin. I could easily ignore his veto and share. But after your wonderful text, I realized that he was absolutely right.


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