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LizardWarrior
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posted April 29, 2016 09:18 PM |
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verriker said:
did anyone test adding a completely new model and animation to the game is that possible lol
Yes, it is possible, but I doubt it's worth that much work for h7 while it's in the current state. 
EnergyZ said:
Can one even modify the town model? I remember the Academy model (when seen from the map) looked something made by Lego cubes. At least to be given a bit more detail, so it is not that plain or simple.
Yes, it is possible to modify town on adventure maps. We may modify it, but first let's take care of the creatures. 
The_green_drag said:
If we're putting Griffins in dungeon maybe centaurs could be moved to their core tier? Would be nice if they could be shrinked down to one tile, I never understood why they're large units.
I kinda wanted to put centaurs in Sylvan. For now the dungeon is quite full and I already got beholder as a core shooter. Not sure, but nothing is set in stone.
Zeki said:
The_green_drag said:
But I'd like to see a dragon golem in adademy as their strong elite
+1 for dragon golem, loved them in h4, also h3 fortress would be great as green_drag mentioned in the other post.
Well, I suppose I can make a dragon golem for Academy, but which creature should it replace? Or maybe we can add more creatures per dwelling and break the 8 limit? That may be possible, but it's quite a lot of work and idk if it's worth it.
The_green_drag said:
Wonder if creating h3 fortress would be possible 
Got that rhino thing for a mighty gorgon, could take the goblin off the basilisk rider, and the rest will be in the game except the dragon fly.
Well, once the expansion is out, fortress is gonna be fortress again 
Articun said:
Orc zombies would be much better than human ones
That's simple, I just need to get the tusks back. I don't see other orcish features I could give them.
Articun said:
Why not change the color scheme of the Harpy a bit? Make it darker and the wings to look more like bat wings and return them to Dungeon once more? I can search up for names in the greek mythology although Erynies do come in mind and Moras as well... Just keep it in mind.
Well, the problem is that Dungeon is already full. For Stronghold I guess we can give them thunderbirds, then shift some tiers and it would be fine. Maybe if I manage to give more creatures per town (still not sure if that's realizable)
Articun said:
Is there any way to return the goblins somehow? Preferably the ones with the put trap ability... It could be nice to have an alternative to Harpy.
This is gonna be tricky because the goblin model would require new animations since it's currently a rider. I can't promise a goblin, but I can promise to try.
Articun said:
4. Possible other units: Smaller Simurgh with changed color scheme and head as Thunderbird, Blade dancers made to look like human berserkers from Heroes IV, dunno if a unit can be turned to Ogre Magi but Dreamcatchers could make a return.
The thunderbird is currently in the making  Ogre magi are doable, but I'm not a big fan of the dreamwalkers solely because of that giant arm. And as I said before in this thread, berserkers are an option that I'm considering.
Articun said:
1. Cavaliers be made Champion tier with increased stats or Gold dragon taking the place of Swordmaster.
2. Swaordmasters reduced to strong elite place alongside Cavalier or Blazing Glories
I originally was thinking about transforming swordmaster into h1-h2 crusader/paladin. I admit that a Cavalier would look better as champion tier, but shifting Swordmaster into an elite would give haven 2 units that are pretty similar in the same tier, just with a gender swap. Perhaps I can give them or justicars another weapon.
Articun said:
3. Can't think or much else... Maybe the sisters and the Ballista could be made as units to reflect a bit the Heroes IV theme? Or the sea elf pirate be made to look like the squire?
The sister can be transformed pretty easily into the h4 female cleric and the ballista is a ballista is any game, I don't think it needs to be changed. Also I'd prefer making the sea elf pirate more corsair-like than making a squire, they need a pirate hat 
Articun said:
Sylvan
1. A reskin of wolf, smaller and more real like to be alternative to Dryads
And I could make the haven wolves more dog like, so there are less similarities. This is an idea I can get behind.
Articun said:
2. A wild Griffin to be alternative to Hunters (and please no weird and funny looking armor)
Well, I'd keep the griffin in dungeon, so maybe some hypogriffs for sylvan? I just need to reskin them, give them some hooves and some antlers, it's not that hard.
Articun said:
3. Maybe unicorn in place of Blade dancers or blade dancers be put as alternative strong core?
Yeah, only that the unicors got some missing animations since they are mounts. It was easier to make lurkers creatures from war machine because they already had attack animations, the turn animations are simple to make and they are floating, so just use idle animation instead of walking.
Articun said:
4. Treant as an alternative strong elite and Phoenix in its place?
That's a good idea, we get rid of the deers and strategy wise, the sylvan has now one defensive walker and one offensive flyer as champion choices.
Articun said:
1. Lamasu getting new painting done, showing more bones and decay somehow, more yellowish-brown on the non upgraded version with black and bluish spots where there is less flesh, like a wound and more Greyish-white on the upgrade to show the dead skin.
Nah, the lamasu is staying out of Necropolis. I was thinking about either make it a living neutral creature or make a sphinx out of it, still not sure which one.
fred79 said:
i have a question: why are the zombies and mummies so overly muscular? are they on steroids or something? i don't remember ever seeing diesel zombies OR mummies before. anne frankly, they'd be more accurate as creatures if they lost some of their mass.
All this human flesh they eat is full of protein and they get some sick gains by shanking b@stards all day . But yeah, it'd make more sense if they were a bit skinnier.
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fred79
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posted April 29, 2016 09:22 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
All this human flesh they eat is full of protein and they get some sick gains
lol.
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted April 29, 2016 09:28 PM |
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Why not get in touch with aciddragon to allow alternative units all around?
I mean he did it in his mod. So in the end each faction can have 14 units
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LizardWarrior
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posted April 29, 2016 09:33 PM |
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So in the end each faction can have 14 units
this is a problem, there will be too many creatures to make
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The_green_drag
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posted April 30, 2016 03:56 AM |
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I'd replace the dragon golem with rakasha honestly.
They're one of the coolest looking units in the game without doubt but we already get the sweep ability in haven and stronghold and we get a no retaliation strong elite in dungeon.
Ability idea: give it a small stat boost or damage boost for a round if the hero casts a spell, higher tier spells give a larger boost 
But idk what unit would have a good enough animation but if a h1-2 troll could get made for stronghold...
About the h1-2 paladin idea, I really like it but I disagree with the cavalier being pushed to a champion tier. If anything I think they should be pushed back and become a normal elite. If and only if the old paladin makes a return, because then justicars would be an overkill. I always liked the h1-2 cavaliers because they were weaker but you got more of them.
A replacement strong elite would be needed, maybe some kind of griffin knight or something
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ChrisD1
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posted April 30, 2016 04:39 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
i have a question: why are the zombies and mummies so overly muscular? are they on steroids or something? i don't remember ever seeing diesel zombies OR mummies before. anne frankly, they'd be more accurate as creatures if they lost some of their mass.
All this human flesh they eat is full of protein and they get some sick gains by shanking b@stards all day . But yeah, it'd make more sense if they were a bit skinnier.
it's because it's the model of the crusher. i don't like it at all but the work on re-texturing is extremely good, so congrats on that.
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Articun
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posted April 30, 2016 05:50 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
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So in the end each faction can have 14 units
this is a problem, there will be too many creatures to make
Well, no one said that it had to be done at once. It could be made gradualy and with no time limit. Craft at your leasure
I mean, you are going into the trouble of making the units. Acid Dragon goes into the trouble of making units and implementing them as alternatives to the lineups. I am sure you can find a middle ground and work a bit together if you want to. Ultimately though, it is up to you and i am more than happy to see guys like you with the appropriate knowledge try to mod more content into the game
So, in the end, i can't complain.
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darkem
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posted April 30, 2016 08:07 PM |
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@LizardWarrior
Would you mind to share textures of the dragon you've presented before. I'd like to do my own bit of photoshopping and currently I have no access to Heroes 7 files. Original textures would be fine as well.
LizardWarrior said:
Great job!
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted April 30, 2016 08:17 PM |
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so you put the beholder as a core in dungeon? does it have an upgraded/standard version? can we see it?
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The_green_drag
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posted April 30, 2016 08:22 PM |
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It is....on the main page 
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LizardWarrior
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posted April 30, 2016 08:54 PM |
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darkem said:
@LizardWarrior
Would you mind to share textures of the dragon you've presented before. I'd like to do my own bit of photoshopping and currently I have no access to Heroes 7 files. Original textures would be fine as well.
Of course, I will send you a private message with the texture.
Also, I remember you made an artwork for a headless horseman back when necropolis wasn't released. Mind if I give a try to implement it in a game?
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ChrisD1
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posted April 30, 2016 09:57 PM |
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The_green_drag said:
It is....on the main page
oh...
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LizardWarrior
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posted May 01, 2016 11:07 AM |
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Well, I tried to make a Dragon Golem, not satisfied with it at all, but I'm gonna post it there anyway.
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sirironfist
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posted May 01, 2016 11:24 AM |
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And please don't attempt to have a person sitting on the Dragon Golem. That really destroyed the unit in H4 because it felt more like a machine than a Golem.
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EnergyZ
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posted May 01, 2016 11:46 AM |
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But golems are machines...
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Articun
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posted May 01, 2016 02:50 PM |
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well, dragon golem is certainly better looking than the Earth Dragon, that's for sure. And i agree it needs some more tinkering with. The base model is nice, the scales on the front look odd though and the whole structure looks more like a submarine or a tank of sorts than that a functioning golem. But this might be one of the best units you designed so far.
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The_Green_Drag
Supreme Hero
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posted May 01, 2016 02:50 PM |
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I like it Looking like a steampunk dragon to me, maybe some smoke stacks somewhere on it would be cool? The Valve on the back is neat and I like the steel plate looking body.
EnergyZ said:
I don't recall there was any Heroes game in which centaurs were not large creatures. In a sense that they never occupied one space, but two (or four, if talking about squares). Well, maybe only Heroes Online, I suppose...
There isnt one but in H7 they have this antelope look to them, a lot smaller than in h6 and h5 and they hardly fill the large unit tile. I also think their ability would be more beneficial as a small unit.
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Elvin
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posted May 01, 2016 03:17 PM |
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That emerald dragon face reminds me of a goblin
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cleglaw
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posted May 01, 2016 04:01 PM |
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Edited by cleglaw at 16:02, 01 May 2016.
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EnergyZ said:
But golems are machines...
golems are like high tech machines, they can do their task themselves, without someone controlling their parts.
h4 dragon was a machine, and lizards one looks like a golem... well, unless someone is controlling it inside like a fantastic version of tank.
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LizardWarrior
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posted May 01, 2016 04:35 PM |
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Thank you all for the feedback. I would also try a crystal dragon because h3 and the dragon golem needs an upg
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