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markmasters
Famous Hero
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posted June 30, 2017 04:54 PM |
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Nice, I was obliterated by the debuffs of that voodoo doll before (it was a 4 dot doll though) so you might want to try and give it a shot 
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reyto
Hired Hero
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posted June 30, 2017 05:36 PM |
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Edited by reyto at 17:41, 30 Jun 2017.
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Galaad said:
Double a small number is still a small number, or you were expecting a rain of 4 dots? 
My ticket summon from today BTW
Congratz
Actually, I'm not sure that the game will profit from making 4-dot monsters easier to get (in general sense - faster you obtain best monsters, faster you come to end game and don't know what to do next).
But right now 4-dot monsters drop rate is close to ridiculous. After playing several month, getting more than 200 3-dot monsters and countless numbers of 2-,1-,0-dot, I got 21 4-dots and more than half of them came from event quests and summons as epics and legendaries.
I wonder what kind of thoughts the developers had in their heads when they added"4-dot" achievement. I'm still at three stars 21/25 and four more to go. It's like "Hey, guys, you will definitely like our game and you will play it for years!"
Add the fact that one of the most exiting moments of the game right now is getting a good creature which means a 4 dot or an epic/legendary. If not the only one.
Than the irony of this "we DOUBLED the drop rate" becomes easier to understand.
I'm really hoping that the kingdom will bring some interesting ways to obtains 4-dot monsters without having only to rely on luck. Or may be some new interactions like monster experience, a pool of monster abilities that you get after using it for a certain number of times. Or something else.
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Isildur
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 30, 2017 05:49 PM |
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It seems like the Templar dungeons have been figured out now. My defense rate has drop from ~70% last week to ~40% this week.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted June 30, 2017 06:38 PM |
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reyto said:
Congratz
Thanks 
Quote:
Actually, I'm not sure that the game will profit from making 4-dot monsters easier to get (in general sense - faster you obtain best monsters, faster you come to end game and don't know what to do next).
I don't feel this way at all, I foresee the day where I have a full 4 dots party to be loads of fun, then one party can't have all elements so also need at least a second. After six months of playing daily I can say I have a few working 3 dots parties, and I still have yet to make more parties with smaller creatures. I have no idea what Kingdom will bring to the table, but I am sure it will increase replayability even further. Replayability of this game is already great, I spent more time on CQ than on some PC games. I agree 4 dots shouldn't be too easy to obtain either as it's also what keeps you going, possibly developers felt that rate was too scarce and decided to increase it, albeit not too much. It's a bit early to fairly judge ont it right now imo, I say give it a few weeks.
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hayenne
Known Hero
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posted June 30, 2017 09:48 PM |
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reyto said:
Actually, I'm not sure that the game will profit from making 4-dot monsters easier to get (in general sense - faster you obtain best monsters, faster you come to end game and don't know what to do next).
I know what you mean, I raised the same concern to the devs. They said that there is a fine line between "free 4 dots for everyone" and "I'm so effing tired of farming tower for those pesky 4ds" and assure they tested it to be a harmless, but comfortable increase (the chance is raised more for the event creatures).
I wish they made challenges for the small and medium sized teams, it would have been so much fun!
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted July 01, 2017 11:34 AM |
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hayenne said:
I know what you mean, I raised the same concern to the devs.
I really don't understand what you're afraid of. Better drop rates is not only beneficial to the overall experience but also makes life easier for free players (which you almost are?), as an advantage payers have in regard of farming is they can simply farm more, thus increasing their chance for better drops by using expanded amount of QB coins, buying energy and tickets whenever they feel like it, doing massive multi-summons etc. Without a doubt after so many months of intense playing from competitive players we could see a gap growing wider in creatures quality for dungeon defenses, the better drop rate should reduce the gap as free players will get their qualities earlier. The payers already got what they want or close enough for dungeon by now anyway and mostly rather long for 4 dots Legendaries IMO
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Gejmoyr
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 01, 2017 11:59 AM |
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Hi guys, I have a 4d lightning giant and a 3d golden drake. I have already a stunner in my team, which one should I use ?
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dulkan
Known Hero
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posted July 01, 2017 11:25 PM |
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Gejmoyr said:
Hi guys, I have a 4d lightning giant and a 3d golden drake. I have already a stunner in my team, which one should I use ?
the giant all the way. It's a very good creature and having two stunners doesn't hurt at all.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted July 02, 2017 10:19 AM |
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Thunderpants
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Fuitrolk
Tavern Dweller
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posted July 02, 2017 05:05 PM |
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What do you guys think of the event epic ogre this week?
Also, they should create an item to add a "dot" to any creature. This would be like a Legendary item you know. It'd be great.
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AlHazin
Promising
Supreme Hero
النور
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posted July 02, 2017 06:03 PM |
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Ogre is lame, farm the gnoll.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted July 02, 2017 08:03 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 13:16, 03 Jul 2017.
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Oh BTW if some people have some questions to the devs you can ask here, though Pol said he'd send them today, better hurry!
Edit> He postponed it for a couple of days more!
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hayenne
Known Hero
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posted July 03, 2017 08:53 AM |
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Fuitrolk said:
What do you guys think of the event epic ogre this week?
Also, they should create an item to add a "dot" to any creature. This would be like a Legendary item you know. It'd be great.
Ogre is an okay single target nuker, but almost any red legendary you find will be better. I used the ogre to clear green grand wish on king for the first time though.
The suggestion to add a dot to a creature is known to the devs, as many requested it. They might add it some time later.
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xexamedes
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 03, 2017 11:22 AM |
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Ogre is only good for single target damage if there are no other targets on the board, the random nature of his special means that you can be sure he'll go and thump everything except the one you want.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted July 03, 2017 03:55 PM |
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What Creatures did I forgot? I think I have all now?
I collected them from my least favorite towards my favorite. So in the first row the Otter is my least favorite and the Mask is my favorite of the group. (in looks mostly)
I put the number of dots behind the creatures I have myself.
BLUE CREATURES
SMALL: Otter / Air Fish (3 dot) / Penguin (3 dot) / Parrot / Jester (3 dot) / Fox (4 dot) / Hypnotoad / Mask (4 dot)
MEDIUM: Kobold Captain / Nymph (4 dot) / Lizardman / Dragon Turtle (3 dot) / Frost Eagle / Jellyfish (3 dot)
LARGE: Walrus / Sapphire Drake (3 dot) / Water Elemental / Yeti / Naga / Siren (4 dot) / Sea Terror / King Cobra
LEGENDARY: Blue Dragon / Marid (3 dot) / Megalodon (3 dot) / Frost Giant / Leviathan / Ice Queen / Wukong / Stegosaurus (3 dot) / Tiamat
RED CREATURES
SMALL: Chick / Demonkin / Blazewing / Squirrel / Imp / Woodhacker / Firebug (3 dot) / Ant / Shroom
MEDIUM: Fire Dancer / Boarbarian / Wyvern / Hell Hound / Oni (4 dot) / Lava Crocodile / Mothman
LARGE: Red Drake / Orc / Ogre (3 dot) / Troglodyte / Baboon / Fire Elemental / Sabretooth / Harpy / Fire Bat (3 dot)
LEGENDARY: Pyromancer (3 dot) / Red Dragon / Occultist / Cyclops / Archdevil (3 dot) / Fire Giant / Ifrit / Minotaur / Phoenix / Pyrosaurus Rex
GREEN CREATURES
SMALL: Dragonling (3 dot) / Goblin Boomer (3 dot) / Mantis (3 dot) / Clurichaun / Flaptrap (3 dot) / Hummingbard / Faerie Dragon
MEDIUM: Hippogriff / Goblin Bomber / Troll / Pixie / Kobold Conjuror (4 dot) / Gnoll (3 dot) / Runic Statue (3 dot) / Swamp Terror (3 dot)
LARGE: Emerald Drake / Earth Elemental / Ettin (4 dot) / Bighorn / Treant (3 dot) / Draconic Templar (3 dot) / Feilong / Centaur (3 dot)
LEGENDARY: Druid / Jann / Green Dragon (3 dot) / Sludge Hulk / Forest Giant (3 dot) / Behemoth (3 dot) / Medusa / Hydra (3 dot)
YELLOW CREATURES
SMALL: Egghead / Kitten Mage / Butterfly (3 dot) / Nursequito (3 dot) / Matador Bee (4 dot) / Boggart (3 dot) / Wildkin (3 dot)
MEDIUM: Walloparoo / Dwarf Defender (3 dot) / Sky Shah / Hyena (3 dot) / Tengu / Dragonfly / Sand Devil
LARGE: Sunstone Drake / Pegasus / Elephant (3 dot) / Griffin (3 dot) / Air Elemental / Cockatrice (3 dot) / Manticore (3 dot) / Gorgon (3 dot)
LEGENDARY: Wizard / Genie / Gold Dragon (3 dot) / Storm Giant / Titan (3 dot) / Chimera / Sphinx / Sandworm (3 dot)
WHITE CREATURES
SMALL: Clockwork Technician (3 dot) / Safari Pug / Ornithopter / Gnome Sniper (4 dot) / Crane / Swan (3 dot) / Jackalope / Gremlin / Weasel / Runeblade
MEDIUM: Sky Dwarf / Panda / Clockwork Demolisher / Muse (3 dot) / Wisp / Shardwing Owl (3 dot) / Kitsune (3 dot)
LARGE: Mechanical Spider (3 dot) / White Drake (3 dot) / Light Elemental (3 dot) / Beetle (3 dot) / Diamond Golem / Unicorn / Couatl
LEGENDARY: Alchemist / Paladin / Astral Watcher / White Dragon (3 dot) / Peri / Archangel / Colossus / Kirin / Valkyrie / Mist Giant (3 dot)
BLACK CREATURES
SMALL: Vengeful Demon (3 dot) / Zombie (3 dot) / Pyrat (3 dot) / Black Cat / Vampire Bat (3 dot) / Spiderling (4 dot) / Nevermortician (3 dot) / Voodoo Doll
MEDIUM: Dire Wolf (3 dot) / Mummy (3 dot) / Gargoyle / Hag / Skeleton (3 dot) / Jiangshi (3 dot) / Marionette (3 dot)
LARGE: Dark Elemental / Onyx Drake / Dark Elf / Hunchback / Shadow / Raptor / Evil Eye (3 dot)
LEGENDARY: Archdemon / Vampire / Lich / Black Dragon / Abomination / Corrupted Angel / Shaitan / Succubus (3 dot) / Spider Queen / Banshee
Creatures I really don’t like and I wish were deleted:
- Chick: Phoenix is already there, this one doesn’t make sense.
- Demonkin: There is already a red small imp demon…
- Blazewing: Too much dragons, and this is pretty much the same as the other green one.
- Fire Dancer: Too much pretty ladies, and this is same as pyromaniac girl.
- Sky Dwarf: A dwarf with wings? Wha? Boring.
Creatures that could have been SO much better or which should be with another color:
- Megalodon should have been called Sea Serpent or something like that…
- Tiamat should be all colors at the same time, or a random color.
- Demonkin should be cut, but otherwise be BLACK like the Archdemon.
- Orc being a red creature doesn’t made sense.
- Troglodyte should have been called Salamander.
- Occultist should have been Black creature.
- Mantis shouldn’t been humanoid and a large creature.
- I don’t understand why Manticore is yellow and not red.
- Gorgon should have been Green in my opinion.
- Weasel should have been called Kamaitachi.
- Instead of Sky Dwarf could have been a Cupid.
Creatures that should have been higher or lower in level:
- Sapphire Drake (and all other drakes) should have been MEDIUM creatures.
- Sea Terror should have been Medium.
- Oni, Lava Crocodile and Mothman should have been Large.
- Orc, Troglodyte, Baboon and Harpy should have been Medium.
- I would have rather seen higher level Mantis and Flytrap monsters.
- Troll should have been Large.
- Pixie should have been Small
- Centaur should have been Medium
- Pegasus should have been Medium, it is just a pathetic flying horse.
- Kitsune should have been Large.
- Hag should have been Large.
Other creatures I would like to see added in the future:
- Ooze (Small)
- Ahuizotl
- Cupid
- Poltergeist
- Big Mantis (non-humanoid)
- Big Carnivorous Plant
- Scarecrow
- Eel
- Dryad
- Merfolk
- Beaver
- Spellbook Monster
- Chameleon
- Orca or Dolphin Monster
- Salamander
- Amphisbaena (Snake with head on each side)
- Skunk
- Grim Reaper
- Kelpie
- Werewolf
- Locust
- Caterpillar
- Wasp
- Bee Woman
- Black Dog
- Basilisk
- Antelope with Big horns
- Twin Creatures
- Instrument Monster
- Mole
- Baku
- Leech
- Cactus Cat or other Cactus Monster
- Giraffe or other thing with long neck
- Shadow Panther (non humanoid)
- Ghost Ship
- Carbuncle
- Cherufe or other Lava Monster
- Charybdis
- Scylla
- Flying Head Monster
- Chupacabra
- Centipede
- Pumpkin Head
- Ray or Manta
- Cu Sith
- Mist or Fog Monster
- Doppelganger or Shapeshifter
- Draugr (Sea Zombie)
- Drop Bear
- Dullahan or Headless Horseman
- Echeneis or Remora Fish
- Swarm monster, that looks like a humanoid made out of a swarm.
- Pygmy
- Satyr or Faun
- Living Armor
- Beautiful Man (Incubus)
- Gashadokuro (Giant Skeleton)
- Girtablilu or Scorpion Man
- Crab monster (Heikegani)
- Seahorse
- Chain Monster
- Trapdoor Spider
- Karkadann or other Evil Unicorn
- Crystal Monster
- Totem Creature
- Polar Bear
- Pteranodon Flying Dinosaur-thing
- Plesiosaurus, Monster of Loch Ness
- Sauropod Dinosaur
- Triceratops or Styracosaurus
- Pachycephalosaurus
- Dimetrodon
- Hadrosaurus (Parasaurolophus)
- Compsognatus (small dinosaur)
- Kraken, Octopus, Squid (Big and small)
- Leucrotta
- Peryton
- Snail (Lou Carcolh)
- Catfish
- Sawfish or Swordfish
- Deep Sea Fish / Anglerfish
- Almiraj (Unicorn Bunny)
- Antlion
- Ram/Sheep
- Bear
- Mimic or Chest monster
- Nuckelavee
- Crawling Claw
- Raiju
- Rakshasa
- Redcap
- Scorpion Monster
- Shell Monster
- Stag/Deer Monster
- Wendigo
- Starfish
- Kappa
- Normal Elf
- Sand Shark
- Golem (Many possibilities)
- Tooth fairy
- Vulture
- Terror Bird
- Mirror Monster
- Giant Flower
- Pangolin or Armadillo
- Thunderbird
- Yuki-Onna
- Island Turtle
- Beelzebub
- Bandersnatch, Jabberwocky, Jubjub, Cheshire Cat
- Nightmare Horse
- Springheel jack
I would like a new color to the game, maybe Purple being mystic, magic and poison?
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xexamedes
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 03, 2017 05:33 PM |
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Since your rankings are based on cosmetics rather than usefulness they don't serve much purpose. I don't see why you object to different size creatures having the same function or similar abilities, it increases the options and you are amongst the first to complain about every defence looking the same.
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Rakshasa92
Supreme Hero
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posted July 03, 2017 05:42 PM |
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xexamedes said:
Since your rankings are based on cosmetics rather than usefulness they don't serve much purpose. I don't see why you object to different size creatures having the same function or similar abilities, it increases the options and you are amongst the first to complain about every defence looking the same.
Well, look at the list of creatures they could still add.
Rather see those than two the same looking dragonlings or demonlings.
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Brukernavn
Hero of Order
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posted July 03, 2017 06:15 PM |
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Rakshasa92 said:
Water Elemental
Sea Terror
Sand Devil
Safari Pug
Jackalope
Weasel
Runeblade
Sky Dwarf
Panda
Clockwork Demolisher
Diamond Golem
Vengeful Demon
Zombie
Pyrat
Spiderling
Mummy
Hag
Jiangshi
Marionette
What do you (or anyone else) think of these creatures in particular from a combat point of view?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted July 03, 2017 08:29 PM |
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Brukernavn said:
What do you (or anyone else) think of these creatures in particular from a combat point of view?
I don't have experience with all of them but I can say for sure Jackalope and Mummy are very good.
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Sandro316
Hired Hero
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posted July 03, 2017 10:55 PM |
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Galaad said:
Brukernavn said:
What do you (or anyone else) think of these creatures in particular from a combat point of view?
I don't have experience with all of them but I can say for sure Jackalope and Mummy are very good.
I will agree with this and add the Spiderling is also very good. The Panda is quite good too, but there is a lot of competition in the medium non-flying spots, so he gets lost in the shuffle a lot.
I've never come across a dungeon with a 4 dot awakened water elemental, but it seems like it would be quite good too...
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