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fred79
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posted June 20, 2020 04:57 PM

Statistics:

Despite being a tiny fraction of a smaller percentage, black criminals account for a HUGE percentage of homicides every year in the United States. While most of these homicides are black-on-black crimes, homicides committed by blacks on whites is much higher than white-on-white homicides.




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That's racist! Black Lives Matter! *burns buildings/loots/blocks roads/attacks people that all had nothing to do with what they're upset about*

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posted June 20, 2020 05:02 PM - penalty applied by Corribus on 21 Jun 2020.

Blizzardboy said:
None of you should ever serve on a jury. This is why we shouldn't have juries.


I got bad news for you, guy. Juries that convict so many black criminals are not 100% white. And blacks that serve as jurors know better than your white ass about the problem you will do everything to excuse away.

Besides that, if you don't have a jury trial, then you have a judge trial; where one person alone decides your fate. Your logic is vastly unsound.

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posted June 20, 2020 05:27 PM

Blizzardboy said:
I can't get over the absurdity that it is considered okay for somebody to die on the street because they were guilty of some other lesser crime.

None of you should ever serve on a jury. This is why we shouldn't have juries.


Don't copy JJ, this kind of provocation has no argument other than discrediting the one pushing it.

If you stop a second and read previous comments, they say he resisted because he feared going to jail, as he was under probation. For the bad things he committed before. Not that he was killed for what he did before. See the nuance or I need to spell it slower?

Also, there is not a single analyst today who believes the cop will be indicted by an objective jury,because that is what you imply. Even the district attorney looks like a fool, contradicting himself several times and pushing lies over this week.

So, if he gets free, that would means YOU should never serve on a jury. Wait and see.
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posted June 20, 2020 05:39 PM

JollyJoker said:
- a weapon 2 cops vs one had no problem using against him (and could have used without reprimand) -

It's not supposed to be a fair duel...

JollyJoker said:
If you find this kind of "police work" ok and even defend it, you fully deserve to live under the "protection" of these cops who couldn't handle an unarmed supposedly drunk except shooting him in the back.

No, but that's why it's not supposed to be like in a Chuck Norris movie.

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posted June 20, 2020 06:01 PM

bloodsucker said:
JollyJoker said:
- a weapon 2 cops vs one had no problem using against him (and could have used without reprimand) -

It's not supposed to be a fair duel...
No, it's not. It's supposed to be a "safe" way (for the attacked) to incapacitate someone, WITHOUT KILLING HIM. So there was no life danger for the cops, especially since the guy fled.

JollyJoker said:
If you find this kind of "police work" ok and even defend it, you fully deserve to live under the "protection" of these cops who couldn't handle an unarmed supposedly drunk except shooting him in the back.

No, but that's why it's not supposed to be like in a Chuck Norris movie.

I don't understand the comment.

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posted June 20, 2020 06:02 PM

Salamandre said:

If you stop a second and read previous comments, they say he resisted because he feared going to jail, as he was under probation.
Dude, the cops shot him. What "they say" is guesswork without any worth.

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posted June 20, 2020 06:19 PM

Hey jj, when you're dealing with a type of bear that has been widely known to attack and kill if you act erratically, would it make logical sense to act erratically toward it?

Say you're swimming in a shark-infested ocean, and since sharks are attracted to blood, would it be a smart idea to cut yourself while in the water?

Point is, we know the nature of cops(who, in turn, know the nature of criminals), so if we know them to be dangerous, does it make sense to fight them?

Police brutality and overreach is a real issue and one that has to be faced, but black criminality is ALSO a real issue that has to be faced. You cannot address one and excuse the other.

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posted June 20, 2020 07:14 PM
Edited by blob2 at 19:56, 20 Jun 2020.

JollyJoker said:
If you find this kind of "police work" ok and even defend it, you fully deserve to live under the "protection" of these cops who couldn't handle an unarmed supposedly drunk except shooting him in the back.


Boy you are such a hypocrite. You defend Brooks who was a recidivist, drunk driver etc, a person you would normally call a scum, but because you are hell bent to punish the cop who shot him, becasue now is the time to "howl" at cops, even if he is a guy that is well-aware of the weight of what he did right now (he even tried to save the man with CPR). And nothing will go through to you. No circumstances, no human behaviour, no split-second decision making that had to be made. He made a mistake, maybe he panicked as a lethal weapon was pointed at him (Georgia law at one time states it is or is not a lethal weapon) and shot. Not in the legs, but maybe in the whole situation there was no time to think, like you have, after watching a couple of videos. Well, you got what you wanted either way, the cop will go to jail, and even if somehow not, his life and career ruined becasue he made that bad decision. Maybe he is a loving father of 3, a great guy? Maybe he made society better, whereas Brooks didn't exactly leave a good impression before he died. So what, case closed. The cop will sit in a jail cus he murdered a man, a saint, an "innocent" person, lovable father of four.

What more do you want? Plow the whole police? You got what you wanted. Now tell all those potential victims in Atlanta, while you sit comfy in your chair in Germany, who will protect them now (and I'm talking good cops, not that minority of pshychos like Chauvin) who decided to lay off, cus there is so much hate at their proffesion atm, becuse a bunch of f*cking liberals decided to do a witch hunting and political plays. Neighbourly guard per chance? Oh how good it is to be on the winning side, to win your arguments. The "right" side. Because the "police work" of officers in USA is so bad and so easy to judge.

The snow they need to take care of in America. An everyday patrol might turn into a nightmare cus everyoen might carry a gun or be a recidivist who decides to go wild. But here you are, mister wise, judge and jury in one person, howling about a dead of a random scum person becasue it prooves your god-knows what point that police are bad cus they don't always make the right decisions and seemingly hunt black people for sport. Well guess what, the world does not work that way...

You fully deserve to live in a world without police, with people who didn't have a chance to "get straight" in life cus "societies fault", and fend for yourself.

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posted June 20, 2020 07:25 PM

blob2 said:
JollyJoker said:
If you find this kind of "police work" ok and even defend it, you fully deserve to live under the "protection" of these cops who couldn't handle an unarmed supposedly drunk except shooting him in the back.


Boy you are such a hypocrite. You defend Brooks who was a recidivist, drunk driver etc,
You can stop right here, because I DO. NOT. NEED. TO. DEFEND. HIM.
It's not Brooks, who is charged. Brooks is in a coffin. It's the COPS.
Again. If Brooks WASN'T dead, what would he be charged with? Resisted arrest. This can be felony or misdemeanor, and punishment depends on the State and the severity. If they had successfulyl tased him he might have gotten a few years prison. 18 months? No idea.

And, seriously, does no one find it problematic that here in this thread cops are equalled with  
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a type of bear that has been widely known to attack and kill if you act erratically
? A "type of bear" that is actually supposed to "serve and protect"?

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posted June 20, 2020 07:36 PM

Actually I don't think it matters he was a recidivist, drunk or whatever. His past actions certainly were a burden and they influenced his dumb decisions, but they did not lead to his death.

What only matters is him starting a fight with law representatives. I have no figures in mind, but I would like to know what's is the survival percentage when you punch cops, steal lethal weapon from them then fire to them. I bet is somewhere near zero.

Please feel free to correct me if you have some statistics. This is the core of the problem, what JJ does is trying to smoke out others because he has only one life buoy to grab, the illegality of the arrest. Which is totally irrelevant to the issue.

Repeating "cops are there to serve and protect" is right but inaccurate under the angle you suggest. Cops protect innocent, honest and law abiding citizens from thugs, they are not meant to protect thugs who want to have them killed. Life does not have autosave feature, some decisions you take are definitive.
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posted June 20, 2020 07:56 PM

JollyJoker said:
does no one find it problematic that here in this thread cops are equalled with  
Quote:
a type of bear that has been widely known to attack and kill if you act erratically
? A "type of bear" that is actually supposed to "serve and protect"?


Does anyone besides leftists not see how i literally JUST pointed out the problem with police brutality, and jj JUST conveniently skipped over that part? Or maybe, he HAS no argument? Or maybe, he deliberately ignored my point because he doesn't want to admit he's got tunnel vision?

@ jj: READ. ASSIMILATE. ABSORB. UNDERSTAND. I swear to god, you leftists are an obnoxious, toxic bunch. Like dealing with spoiled children. Speaking of, this is what you leftists remind me of, especially with the rioting/looting/assaults:

no snow, the left in a nutshell

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posted June 20, 2020 08:00 PM

Salamandre said:
Actually I don't think it matters he was a recidivist, drunk or whatever. His past actions certainly were a burden and they influenced his dumb decisions, but they did not lead to his death.

What only matters is him starting a fight with law representatives. I have no figures in mind, but I would like to know what's is the survival percentage when you punch cops, steal lethal weapon from them then fire to them. I bet is somewhere near zero.

Please feel free to correct me if you have some statistics. This is the core of the problem, what JJ does is trying to smoke out others because he has only one life buoy to grab, the illegality of the arrest. Which is totally irrelevant to the issue.

Repeating "cops are there to serve and protect" is right but inaccurate under the angle you suggest. Cops protect innocent, honest and law abiding citizens from thugs, they are not meant to protect thugs who want to have them killed. Life does not have autosave feature, some decisions you take are definitive.


I'm glad your responses are more eloquent than mine. I've always been more direct, which tends to have people resist my points.

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posted June 20, 2020 08:00 PM

Police state logic.

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posted June 20, 2020 08:01 PM

For one who is keen of locking people because their opinions, I would say it applies more to you.

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posted June 20, 2020 08:02 PM
Edited by fred79 at 20:10, 20 Jun 2020.

@ jj: lol @ you using the word "logic".

@ sal: if you think i'm wrong in removing the deranged/easily led from society, then you must love all the degradation and destruction they are causing in the name of "equality". They are actively destroying the western world with ever-expanding power. You're goddamn right i want them somewhere where they can't do any more damage except to each other.

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posted June 20, 2020 08:23 PM
Edited by blob2 at 20:31, 20 Jun 2020.

Salamandre said:
Actually I don't think it matters he was a recidivist, drunk or whatever. His past actions certainly were a burden and they influenced his dumb decisions, but they did not lead to his death.


On the contrary. They might have lead to his death because when he felt the danger of being put to prison due to DUI and breaking the rules of his prison pass, he reacted the way he did.

JollyJoker said:
Again. If Brooks WASN'T dead, what would he be charged with? Resisted arrest.


He could've been charged with many things: assualt on police, thievery, violation of corporeality etc. He went totally wild.

Everything seems to be irrelevant though as long as the whole of "bad police" gets punished and burned down cus "a man is dead". Should they burn the ghetto cus a policemen was shot while on intervention?

fred79 said:
Does anyone besides leftists not see how i literally JUST pointed out the problem with police brutality, and jj JUST conveniently skipped over that part? Or maybe, he HAS no argument? Or maybe, he deliberately ignored my point because he doesn't want to admit he's got tunnel vision?


No, I noticed he has a habit of skipping the "uncomfortable" parts and moving on to next topic.

Putting things aside I think NOTHING beats the stupidity of those anarchist "whites": https://twitter.com/ATLFireRescue/status/1274367289471700992/photo/1.

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posted June 20, 2020 08:59 PM

I'm not skipping anything, I just tend to ignore nonsense that are just polemics. Most of the things brought up here are actually racist and right out of the handbook of police states.

The gist of what is said here is, all blacks are potentially dangerous criminals and killers, which is why the cops are on edge, when they encounter a black in their "line of duty", which is why every black should be on their knees to avoid being preventively shot, and if any black is dumb enough to not do that, but instead do something silly, they can't complain when they end up dead.

That's basically 19th century wisdom, when they also knew that all blacks were dangerous animals.

That's called defending a racist police state.

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posted June 20, 2020 11:19 PM
Edited by blob2 at 23:21, 20 Jun 2020.

JollyJoker said:
I'm not skipping anything, I just tend to ignore nonsense that are just polemics. Most of the things brought up here are actually racist and right out of the handbook of police states.


Your out of arguments so you turn to the "ultimate weapon", calling people racist and generalizing.

What you have written above proofs that you either don't understand what is told to you or are simply ignorant.

This discussion doesn't have much sense in this matter, because if your not willing to listen, your one of those people who need to learn the hard way.

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posted June 20, 2020 11:50 PM

I'm certainly not out of arguments, you just have none and never had any. You don't even know what the people are writing here. Maybe you just read what you want to read. But the part that you skipped in the quote, IS what is said here, and if you are honest, you cannot deny that. Just go through the pages again.

So I fully understand what is told - and I utterly reject it as desperate spin to justify a completely inappropriate and unreasonable use of deadly force, and the problem is, it's not an isolated case.

Admittedly, every case is now under the miscroscope - but that's to be expected when crap happens too often, which has been the case.

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posted June 21, 2020 12:05 AM

Yep, keep feigning ignorance.

One of the prime examples of your style is how people like you are fast to call others racist.

Or call out people who don't like what is going on with police in the USA defenders of police state.

The ultimate hypocrites.

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