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Thread: ERA III This thread is 14 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 · «PREV / NEXT»
GeorgeKing
GeorgeKing

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posted September 13, 2022 02:25 PM

Hi, whats wrong with ERA on XP? HotA works without issues. (Yes, I have HoMM3 HD 5.3 R11 with full XP support). I have also tried unmodded ERA and same issue is there.



Anybody have idea how to fix it?

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Bersy
Bersy


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posted September 21, 2022 04:38 PM

Tried running h3era.exe?
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Vladimir80
Vladimir80

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posted May 18, 2023 10:16 PM

Hello everyone, I have a problem patching ERA to the latest version 2.924. I did a fresh install of the operating system, Win10, a fresh install of the GOG version of Heroes 3, I installed the HOTA mod successfully, but when I tried to upgrade ERA to the latest version, there was an error when patching. The installation gets to the file DebugMapsAngel.dbgmap and stays there, as if it keeps doing Checking file integrity 0-100%.
I tried the whole installation from scratch, without success. Any suggestions please? I have win10 and I also tried a new installation on win11.
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Alyx182008
Alyx182008


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posted May 18, 2023 11:17 PM

Vladimir80 said:
Hello everyone, I have a problem patching ERA to the latest version 2.924. I did a fresh install of the operating system, Win10, a fresh install of the GOG version of Heroes 3, I installed the HOTA mod successfully, but when I tried to upgrade ERA to the latest version, there was an error when patching. The installation gets to the file DebugMapsAngel.dbgmap and stays there, as if it keeps doing Checking file integrity 0-100%.
I tried the whole installation from scratch, without success. Any suggestions please? I have win10 and I also tried a new installation on win11.


I had this happen to me recently. What caused it for me was that my timezone and time settings were set wrong. If it's a fresh Windows install, it can be easy to overlook setting your timezone and syncing the clock.

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2lazy_2choose
2lazy_2choose

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posted June 18, 2023 11:00 AM
Edited by 2lazy_2choose at 16:21, 18 Jun 2023.

Hello, I just upgraded from Era 2 to Era 3. I downloaded Era 3 launcher and installed the game in a new location and everything works fine but I can't changed the skill offered at the witch huts anymore. I have Mithril Enhancements wog option turned on, I have enough Mithril and my hero is right next to a witch hut yet Right click, Crtl + right click, Shift + right click, none of them works. Has this feature been changed or this is a bug? Can someone help?

*Edit: I have found the problem. Apparently the "Advanced Witch huts" option in Objects and Artifacts table of Wog option is incompatible with the Mithril Enhancements option. I'm not sure what change has caused this because I used to enable both options when i was playing Era 2 and had no issue with them.

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Archer30
Archer30


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posted June 19, 2023 07:59 AM
Edited by Archer30 at 08:01, 19 Jun 2023.

2lazy_2choose said:
Hello, I just upgraded from Era 2 to Era 3. I downloaded Era 3 launcher and installed the game in a new location and everything works fine but I can't changed the skill offered at the witch huts anymore. I have Mithril Enhancements wog option turned on, I have enough Mithril and my hero is right next to a witch hut yet Right click, Crtl + right click, Shift + right click, none of them works. Has this feature been changed or this is a bug? Can someone help?

*Edit: I have found the problem. Apparently the "Advanced Witch huts" option in Objects and Artifacts table of Wog option is incompatible with the Mithril Enhancements option. I'm not sure what change has caused this because I used to enable both options when i was playing Era 2 and had no issue with them.


Hi! Thanks for the report. I have just got this fixed. Please download the fixed script here and place it in ...\Mods\Wog Scripts\Data\s

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2lazy_2choose
2lazy_2choose

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posted June 19, 2023 06:12 PM

Archer30 said:

Hi! Thanks for the report. I have just got this fixed. Please download the fixed script [url=https://raw.githubusercontent.com/daemon1995/era_gaming_mods/main/WoG%20Scripts/Data/s/12%20wog%20-%20commander%20witch%20huts.erm]here[/url] and place it in ...ModsWog ScriptsDatas


Thank you for the fast support.
I assume I should copy the script into a txt file, change the name to "12 wog - commander witch huts", change the extension to .erm, then put it into the destined folder?
Sorry I have almost zero knowledge about erm srcipt.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted June 19, 2023 07:54 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:03, 19 Jun 2023.

Why give him text form? Provide whole erm file, people do not have the knowledge of how to open, save, replace or whatever. And why wog scripts, which have been tested and fixed for 15 years were again modified for Era 3.x? There are dozens of mods depending on such scripts, this is foolish.

2lazy_2choose
HERE is the file. Open mods forlder, then wog scripts folder and replace with new file.

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Archer30
Archer30


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posted June 20, 2023 04:07 AM
Edited by Archer30 at 06:01, 20 Jun 2023.

2lazy_2choose said:
Archer30 said:

Hi! Thanks for the report. I have just got this fixed. Please download the fixed script here and place it in ...ModsWog ScriptsDatas


Thank you for the fast support.
I assume I should copy the script into a txt file, change the name to "12 wog - commander witch huts", change the extension to .erm, then put it into the destined folder?
Sorry I have almost zero knowledge about erm srcipt.


Hi, sorry for the confusion. You only need to paste the link in your downloader to get the file.

The script is not part of commander witch huts. In case something's messed up, here's the full WoG Scripts mod. What you want to do is to download the .zip, remove the old wog scripts mod and unzip the .zip to ...Mods
Please be aware not to include a duplicated WoG Scripts folder when you unzip.

Salamandre, you see, ERA and ERA Launcher Edition are open-source. Here's my sincere invitation - you are free to contribute anything you like to these projects, including making them scripts free.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted June 20, 2023 05:54 AM

Your answer does not make any sense. Why should  I/we contribute at all to fix something which was already fixed? I mean look at the reports, people complaining about bugs on a script which ran perfectly for 15 years. Who screwed it?

And btw, I contributed a lot while you were still a toddler, today I'm done and you know that.

My gripe is the new strategy where constant core additions look to be a priority over stability and compatibility, about 15 years of quality work.

Basically today it should be one click download then just play, but no; we have to get this, then that, try to figure how to put them together, register in forums and optionally ask the right question to the right person.

Last week I had to test an issue because some youtuber was doing a walkthrough of some old map and kept getting unnecessary crashes. I searched for Era last version, downloaded then install aborted. I had to ask in forums why, Bersy's answer was that last version was bugged and doesn't work.

WoG had a such enormous potential, in my opinion the most efficient tool for modding a game, and I worked with both ModBuddy and Creation Kit for Civilization and Skyrim. Both fantastic million dollars tools yet we could do more with fan made fancy erm. The only thing which kept people joining by thousands were the lack of stability then the installing hazardous process. However, at some point - around Era 2.x, due to conjoint effort, that was almost solved. And now it is back.

Really good job, guys.
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Archer30
Archer30


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posted June 20, 2023 06:14 AM
Edited by Archer30 at 06:33, 20 Jun 2023.

If you look at the git history, stability fixes were implemented day by day. It is impossible not to create new bugs sometimes, but we try not to. It doesn't make sense that you don't understand that part, since

Salamandre said:
I contributed a lot while you were still a toddler


Launcher offers everything you mentioned. It is just me, who doesn't have access to the launcher server, trying to help players before the next launcher build update. I hope this is not a crime.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted June 20, 2023 07:42 AM

When we released WoG revised, which fixed remaining bugs but also disabled various scripts which led to instability, Bersy insisted that it should remain as additional mod, and not replace original WoG scripts.

And that was the best ever decision. That way, one could still use old version if he wanted to play maps/mods designed for them, while using revised version on new games, for a better stability.

When you are going to replace core scripts without possibility of using a previous version, bugs will occur, no matter how dedicate and knowledgeable you are. HoMM 3 game-play is an infinite number of possible strategies, actions and choices, it is humanely impossible to test them all when releasing modifications.

We had 15 years to gather information about what didn't work in 3.58 scripts, you will need another 15 years to make bug free all the modifications. Players will not stay that long. All I preach is common sense, work on whatever you like, create all you can, more power to you!

But keep them separate from core install.

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Archer30
Archer30


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posted June 20, 2023 08:08 AM

Salamandre said:
When we released WoG revised, which fixed remaining bugs but also disabled various scripts which led to instability, Bersy insisted that it should remain as additional mod, and not replace original WoG scripts.

And that was the best ever decision. That way, one could still use old version if he wanted to play maps/mods designed for them, while using revised version on new games, for a better stability.

When you are going to replace core scripts without possibility of using a previous version, bugs will occur, no matter how dedicate and knowledgeable you are. HoMM 3 game-play is an infinite number of possible strategies, actions and choices, it is humanely impossible to test them all when releasing modifications.

We had 15 years to gather information about what didn't work in 3.58 scripts, you will need another 15 years to make bug free all the modifications. Players will not stay that long. All I preach is common sense, work on whatever you like, create all you can, more power to you!

But keep them separate from core install.


Can you briefly explain what exactly ERA 2.46f doesn't serve you as the core you want?

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted June 20, 2023 08:52 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 08:58, 20 Jun 2023.

Era 2.46 doesn't work on Windows 10, I never could get it to install.

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Archer30
Archer30


Adventuring Hero
posted June 20, 2023 09:28 AM
Edited by Archer30 at 09:28, 20 Jun 2023.

Well, I have Era 2.46f for two of my Windows 10 laptops. This version is also popular among many players in another H3 forum, I haven't heard any report of not working because of the OS.
My best guess is that you probably can have it fixed by installing some libraries, like vc++ redistributable. But anyway, Bersy should know better what's required.

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2lazy_2choose
2lazy_2choose

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posted June 20, 2023 06:03 PM

Thank you for your support. I have the issue fixed now, much appreciated  

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Trillian197053
Trillian197053

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posted June 21, 2023 04:26 AM

I'm having a couple of problems with downloading patches in the Heroes 3 Launcher. First problem. I try to run patch for ERA and it keeps getting stuck at c:Games 3 ERAModsMixed NeutralsLangmixed neutrals custom config example.json.txt. It just stays there and wont go any further with the patch. Then with the Patch for both HOTA and MOP. I start the download and it will get so far the just start all over. Then it will get so far again and start all over again. Both just keep doing the same thing. Is there anything I can do about this. Any help would greatly be appreciated.      


                                     Thankyou Trillian
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Bersy
Bersy


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posted July 05, 2023 01:30 AM

Perhaps, I'll be able to test 2.46 installation after finally moving to Win 10 soon. I think it should be working. Anyway, preparing additional 3.9.5 Compatibility package. Maybe it will suit Val's need, but maybe not, because ERM engine was rewritten and some script fixed and mods updated.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
posted July 05, 2023 06:07 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 06:11, 05 Jul 2023.

There are two kind of mods, a) entirely hand written, b) hand written but also depending on WoG scripts via dat file. The first I guess will be mostly compatible as long as you don't change the syntax (for example one day you say SN:W are no longer supported, so then I'm toasted). The second will not if WoG scripts were modified.

Imo Launcher should go ahead and fix/change what they like (I play it right now and they changed a lot, graphics too), but also we need an Era which is compatible with legacy.

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Bersy
Bersy


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posted July 08, 2023 02:52 AM

I agree. Perhaps, if I change bat file in installer to something else, will can play 2.46f for legacy or 3.9.5 Compat if your tests are successful.
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