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posted January 20, 2026 09:28 AM |
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You are just spinning a yarn here, yet again. Neither Robinson nor Crooks are/were far left or even left. Robinson is known to have been concerned about gay and trans rights. Crooks isn't known to have been political at all, not to mention left.
And ICE, they do an ILLEGAL job. They way they are going at this is unconstitional. OF COURSE they are met with hostility. They are masked thugs who kidnap people.
Even Joe Rogan is now talking about Gestapo methods.
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posted January 20, 2026 02:52 PM |
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@jj:
A few years from now there will be a plethora of lawsuits related to ICE conduct. Wearing a mask is not going to be one of them, or at least not one that will have much success in a court. It is easy to defend why somebody would wear a mask in a situation where they are rounding up people tbat also often involves children and where people might be recording. You're simply wrong about this.
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posted January 20, 2026 04:05 PM |
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Are you completely out of your mind now? Wearing a mask isn't something a bank robber will be accused of and sued for either. Or a terrorist. But they wear it for EXACTLY the same reason than the ICE terrorists do: so that no one can identify and sue them - that's the whole point of wearing a mask.
Eventual lawsuits will ALL be directed against the ORGANISATION ICE, but not against specific agents. What do you think why regular police wear name tags and record things with cameras? You think police LIKES that?
You've proven to be a couple of prerequisites short of being taken seriously when you tell somebody that they are wrong.
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posted January 20, 2026 05:53 PM |
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Edited by blizzard at 18:01, 20 Jan 2026.
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You just dont care is all. I think it is safe to say you have strongly negative feelings towards anybody who is employed by Immigration and Customs, high or low.
It is anti-doxing. That is the reason, but you dont care and you are entirely uninterested in listening to the other side of the story. You are angry and that is that. Nothing will ever change your mind. That is why your party is doomed to fail; totally inflexible and permanently trapped in the 20th century.
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posted January 20, 2026 06:10 PM |
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That is BS. I have bad feelings against everybody running around, kidnapping people to put them in concentration camps, completely ignoring their constitutional rights and proper procedure.
If they and ICE would indeed follow proper procedure - ydo you think they were under higher pressure than regular policemen (who aren't allowed masks as "anti-doxxing measures"?
A cop is a cop and if they act (legally) against criminals they have to fear repercussionsw by criminals. Am ICE guy, following law and procedure - what would he have to fear? Illegal immigrants hijacking the internet, so that they can gang together to attack the guy?
No, the whole scheme makes sense only when ICE is NOT following the law and proper procedure. And that has nothing to do with anti-doxxing, it has to do with avoiding legal consequences.
It also serves to spread fear, and it's bound to provoke adverse reactions. Masked people grabbing people on the streets and pulling them into cars? Come on.
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posted January 20, 2026 06:20 PM |
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Edited by blizzard at 18:24, 20 Jan 2026.
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You dont understand. It isnt just Republicans who have gotten nastier. Social media is ripping the US apart from the inside. The left targeting people on social media is a real thing that causes real damage to people's lives. But you dont care. The visor on your helmet is down and your sword is in your hand. No listening. No caring. No dialogue. Just kill.
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posted January 20, 2026 06:48 PM |
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You are writing such a ridiculous garbage ... TRUMP is ripping the US apart from the inside for ten years now - and will continue doing so, not stopping with the US either.
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posted January 20, 2026 08:27 PM |
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You are intoxicated with political correctness, the phenomenon Trump is out of your software comprehension. There are a lot of things to take from.
Bad or good decisions, he TAKES them. Up to Americans to judge.
While in EU our limp, fatuous, insipid and halfwit midgets ruined the economy, destroyed any sovereignty by becoming militarily vassals of the US, shriveled the little sphere of influence we had, bowed to medias lobby to get a morality medal, put the people they swore to serve in danger by allowing uncontrollable mass migration from backward cultures, and all this because they are impotent and powerless to actually take a single decision in the interest of the nation.
But you hate nations, so how could you dig it.
Not to mention their bewildering and visceral hate against Russia, when Russia was the power we needed on our side, energy at low cost, same culture, same values, same history.
So, before you go Karen-style on Trump - who is actually moving on and doing tons of things, look at the crap on our side and ask yourself how and why we got there.
Everyone with a functioning cell in his brain gets why the so-called elites in the EU hate Trump so much. Because without America life-support they look naked, weak, insignificant, where they enjoyed so much thinking they were the center of the world.
We were a midget on the shoulders of a giant.
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posted January 20, 2026 08:28 PM |
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More BS, Trump's support within the population has never been so low. Even fellow REPUBLICANS are threatening him now. Congressman Bacon of Nebraska, for example. Senator Tillis of NC, Senator Murkowski of Alaska, Congressman Hurd of Colorado ...
The majority of the American people don't want Gestapo methods or Greenland or alienate their allies. They don't want all that crap.
In that regard they are no different than the Europeans - you are a minority. It may LOOK like you are part of a very sizable minority, but like the development in the US, if those more radical forces would act the same way, they would lose their support FAST. But I'm not stupid either. I don't have to look further than Italy to see how things may work out with a REASONABLE right-wing government. But Trump, sadly, isn't like Meloni - not in the least.
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posted January 20, 2026 08:34 PM |
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Trump approval : 37%
Merz approval : 23%
Macron approval : 19%
Starmer approval : 18%
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posted January 20, 2026 08:45 PM |
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posted January 20, 2026 08:51 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
You are writing such a ridiculous garbage ... TRUMP is ripping the US apart from the inside for ten years now - and will continue doing so, not stopping with the US either.
No. You are completely wrong.
This is like saying that Hitler was responsible for destroying Germany, which is a child's explanation of history.
Leftist dogmatic ideologues have been recording and harassing Immigration and Customs agents for doing the basic stuff that they do. Not illegal stuff. Their jobs. That has been instigating the use of masks, which makes absolutely perfect sense.
Everybody knows that Donald Trump is a total ****ing moron. I wish that he was in prison, but he isnt. As somebody who actually lives in the US, I want to see party relations improve rather than get worse, and that isnt going to happen with zealots who claim that they are not contributing to the problem.
Fortunately, most of the major Democratic leaders are in fact actively working towards dialogue and cooperation.That is a promising sign for the future.
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posted January 21, 2026 08:41 AM |
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Salamandre said:
Trump approval : 37%
Merz approval : 23%
Macron approval : 19%
Starmer approval : 18%
Well, your link doesnt exactly contradict with what he says, 37 percent is a minority but more importantly, minus 19 percent in just a year is an enormous loss of approval in politics. Politicians start to worry when they lose 3-5 percent. (Unless they are some backwater country dictator who gets “elected” with something like 97 percent, of course.)
Trump is unpredictable and “too much” for most Americans, indeed. I think Greenland was the breaking point for many because most Americans like to think of their country as “fair” when it comes to invasions and so on. But this time, there is really no rhetoric, no convincing packaging other than “we want it strategically and we have the power to take it.”
Also keep in mind, although mass immigration is a problem in the U.S. as well, it’s nothing like Europe regarding the issue. Their culture is much more used to immigration, it is built on it and has a literature, cinema, all revolving around “the immigrant realizing the American dream” story. They have better know-how and cultural reflexes on absorbing them and most immigration is not from Islamic countries but Latin America which makes a crucial difference when it comes to integration and assimilation. (U.S. national identitiy is more flexible to begin with anyway.) They have problems regarding gangs but that’s different. Illegal immigrants (and a lot of them) have been part of the equation for decades. It used to be seen as a victimless crime. So, taking measures too gestapo-like will indeed have a backlash. And as we can see in your link, it does.
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posted January 21, 2026 12:35 PM |
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Biden approval rating after one year was ~40%, and I didn't hear any of you saying the universe is doomed.
But what my links are for, is to show the dystopia we live in : leaders with catastrophic results and ratings keep lecturing us about how Trump is wrong on everything. While he basically tops the double of each of them.
You are right about immigration issues being different in USA and EU. We faced mass uncontrolled immigration, US faced mass illegal immigration. I notice any of you remove the "illegal" then tries to make it sound like it was about immigration as a whole. It never was.
Think about it : you have a nice house, family, and you invite friends for a party. Beer is ready, the chicken masala is on the table, everyone has just enough for himself and suddenly 20 other people break in, uninvited, drink your beer, eat the chicken and some even become aggressive.
You call 911, and there are lieutenants Angelina Joker and Artu Conan Doyle responding.
 What can we do for you, sir ?
 People broke in my house, can you help?
Can you give a description of them?
yep, some are black
Sir, you are a racist !
Well, there are a few women too
Sir your misogyny is disgusting !
we convoke you tomorrow to respond of accusations of racism and misogyny. Not to mention your lack of humanity, those people are just trying to live their dream, which is get some warm and eat good stuff.
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posted January 21, 2026 01:17 PM |
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First of all, Biden went senile during his last years and that’s a very different situation. What I thought about Biden was, I just couldnt understand how the whole Democratic Party couldnt find someone capable and charismatic enough to run against Trump. It was as if they were short of adequate politicians which seemed really weird. But Biden was never the wrecking ball Trump was, he was not that significant anyway, so that’s a really off the mark whataboutism.
When it comes to immigration, you caricaturize my position and put me in a basket that I’m not in. When did I ever accuse anyone of being racist just on the basis of concerns over mass immigration, never. You’re punching a scarecrow just to have an upper hand but you’re just giving examples from most senseless, cartoonish opposition you can imagine. Do I treat your arguments like some Neo-Nazi’s or something like that.
The context is, are Trump’s actions against illegal immigration over the top? Are ICE agents going too far even for Americans who supported Trump because of this at first. J.J. claims they are. You share a link. In your link, it says his support ratio is down by 19 percent. That is huge and it fits JJ.’s claim. If you have something to say about that, fine, I’ll listen as your friend, I’m not calling you a racist or anything like that. Just stop charging at the windmills.
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posted January 21, 2026 01:49 PM |
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At Davos, Canadian PM Mark Carney basically says old world order is over, this is a rupture, not a transition. They are doubling defense budget, getting close to Europe and China, fully supporting Denmark on Greenland and from now on, alliences will be on a case to case basis.
Nobel Prize for peace, you were saying…
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posted January 21, 2026 02:04 PM |
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@artu
Canada isn't really getting "close" to China, they just dont want 70% of their trade coming from the USA is all.
@sal
Those approval ratings dont really mean much. The situation in Europe is that the continent is in terminal stagnation/decline and the entitled population still wants their elected officials to magically turn Europe into the 1990s again even though that is humanly impossible to do. So they protest and disapprove of their leaders. If you can get over 25% approval it means that you are doing good. I would love to have Macron or Merz as a president.
In the USA, you usually need 45% approval to get elected again, but that could change in the future. If people just automatically disapprove of their leaders, you could eventually have people winning the vote and getting into the White House with 35 or 30% approval and still solidly beat the other person. It doesnt matter much if Trump's approval is 35% if the other candidate is in the same field.
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posted January 21, 2026 02:13 PM |
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Well, I wasnt suggesting they were going to be poker table buds on sundays, blizz.
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posted January 21, 2026 05:50 PM |
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blizzard said:
JollyJoker said:
You are writing such a ridiculous garbage ... TRUMP is ripping the US apart from the inside for ten years now - and will continue doing so, not stopping with the US either.
No. You are completely wrong.
This is like saying that Hitler was responsible for destroying Germany, which is a child's explanation of history.
Leftist dogmatic ideologues have been recording and harassing Immigration and Customs agents for doing the basic stuff that they do. Not illegal stuff. Their jobs. That has been instigating the use of masks, which makes absolutely perfect sense.
Everybody knows that Donald Trump is a total ****ing moron. I wish that he was in prison, but he isnt. As somebody who actually lives in the US, I want to see party relations improve rather than get worse, and that isnt going to happen with zealots who claim that they are not contributing to the problem.
Fortunately, most of the major Democratic leaders are in fact actively working towards dialogue and cooperation.That is a promising sign for the future.
Claiming I'm completely wrong doesn't make you right. You are mistaking two things: The reasons for someone coming into power and destroying a country. The reasons for coming into power are manifold; you can't just say that US citizens or Germans are/were dumb because they didn't read the signs correctly.
However, there is NO doubt whatsoever, that HITLER destroyed Germany, and there is no doubt that TRUMP is, at this point, destroying the US - ripping them apart - and then some. Sure, they both have help, they couldn't do(have done it alone. But in the end THEY are(have been in command and it's THEIR decisions.
Salamandre said:
Trump approval : 37%
Merz approval : 23%
Macron approval : 19%
Starmer approval : 18%
You are comparing apples and oranges. US are a two-party country and Trump started out with an approval of 56%. Within a year he lost one third of that approval, which actually means, he not only lost the approval of the swing voters, he lost approval in the group of the Republican core voters.
Merz never had much approval anyway.His party got less than 25% of the votes and his approval wasn't even that good with the core voters of his party. You might say people didn't expect a lot - and didn't get a lot.
Trumps approval ratings show that one third of those who approved are not approving with the way he's handling things. At this point.
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posted January 21, 2026 09:11 PM |
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It is his last term, so approval doesn't mater. The regular guy doesn't necessarily understands that the world of tomorrow is a world where 3 powers, China, Russia and the US, will have to battle hard to compete for influence zones and what derives from, he still thinks US is untouchable, but the US whose GDP was 50% of worldwide 50 years ago, is now only 20%. Trump got it and does what he thinks is right to stay and even win the race.
Europeans aren't concerned, they already lost and are out of this race, then their nations will suffer terrible downfall, both economic and geo-politic. Their frustration is the now the trigger of the putinophobia and trumpophobia we experience. Such phobias and idiotic biases do not exists in the major parts of the world, where everybody understood what is at stakes and takes a side.
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