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Heroes Community > Heroes 7+ Altar of Wishes > Thread: Crusader or Archangel?
Thread: Crusader or Archangel? This thread is 10 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 · «PREV
Frenzie
Frenzie


Adventuring Hero
off with the faeries
posted November 01, 2001 02:06 AM

So if you were to extend this debate it would follow that there could only be one of many creatures from mythology etc etc, I think bringing this to a religious debate on how many angels there supposedly were is ridiculous!

The thread is about a game, not a scripture!

So yeah, Crusaders rock, I could give or take Angels, but as said before you need strong opponents for these creatures, take away one and it really needs replacing or the enemy taken out as well.

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ghost_of_Lor...
ghost_of_LordTitan


Adventuring Hero
The first Holy Ghost
posted March 22, 2003 10:28 PM

Bye bye devils

Uh hun... I still think that the angels and devils should go. Because having Devils and such could be a bit offensive to sertain religions, and if you want a castle town, you're going to need more midevil units than mythologic.
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Xenophanes
Xenophanes


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posted March 23, 2003 12:44 AM

Devils and Angels, I think, after playing Heroes III and Heroes IV, interfere with the fantasy atmosphere too much in the way that they are now. Substitute good old fashioned fantasy demons for Devils, however, and you have yourself a deal. Angels need to be less medieval Christian-ish and more fantasy looking. I know that sounds rather cliche, but I'm thinking rather than armor, etc. a more incorporeal, spritish looking thing.

Argh, now I'm questioning myself as to if that's what I really want. I dunno. To tell you the truth, I could care less about the petty Knights, but that's just me
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jimpy
jimpy

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posted April 15, 2003 09:33 AM

Angels should be the highest, with Crusaders (not the ones on horses, the HOMM2 ones a close second. Only because Crusaders can't fly and they're not from Heaven.
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Gothmog
Gothmog


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posted April 15, 2003 04:21 PM
Edited By: Gothmog on 15 Apr 2003

Quote:
...I have noticed that that was the initial purpose of this thread but now it became the home of a more philosophical and a religion dispute because some of the players don't want to see the angels or archangels in the game at all. Some other players do not agree with the idea of having in one's army hundreds of Archangels because this does not correspond with the reality of the books or whatever. So, along with the original question "Archangel or Crusader?" (Which has been already answered in HOMM 4) it raises other questions: "Should there ever be angels or archangels in HOMM?" "Is it ok to produce a large amount of Archangels, as the ancient scripts mention only seven of them?" "What about the Fallen Angels, like Lucifer ? " etc. So, you see people around here still have some things to say.



Actually, the word Crusade, or Crusader can be offensive in the middle east.  Let's have Islmaic Jihadii instead.
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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posted April 15, 2003 04:37 PM

I say keep the Paladins/Crusaders where they were in HoMM2 - level 6.
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Gerdash
Gerdash


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from the Animated Peace
posted April 15, 2003 04:57 PM
Edited By: Gerdash on 15 Apr 2003

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Angels need to be less medieval Christian-ish and more fantasy looking. I know that sounds rather cliche, but I'm thinking rather than armor, etc. a more incorporeal, spritish looking thing.

if i didn't misunderstand, we are talking about medieval christian-ish angels being armored.
well, relatively, but i would rather say that they are unarmored.
imho a typical medieval picture of an angel(http://www.abcgallery.com/B/bosch/bosch33.jpg) (lower left).

also, while searching for the first picture, i found one with a bit different angel on a hill(http://www.abcgallery.com/B/bosch/bosch67.jpg) , a more spiritual version of an angel, as it seems to me, and perfectly medieval. what might be intriguing in this picture is the winged serpent-tailed creature in the lower right that does seem to wear some armor.

maybe an angel was not associated with being some grim heavily armored brute in the medieval people's mind.
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Gothmog
Gothmog


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posted April 15, 2003 05:21 PM

Well, whenever God got mad, he sent his angels.  So what do you expect?

Remember Exodus?

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nasty
nasty


Known Hero
castor nebun si orb pe cinste
posted April 17, 2003 10:53 PM

How can you think making the crusader the best creature in the castle?Where is the fantasy?It's a man in an armor...it's powers are low comparing to a titan...imagine a man killing a titan.So what if the devils are gone from hV?(it's an awful thing) they could make a story to invent another enemy for the angel(archangel)..the fallen angel seems a good ideea...but they could make up a story like the dragons with the devils attacked the angels to exterminate them  and the angels managed to kill the devils but the dragons escaped and from now on they will search to kill every dragon they would encounter.this is a story...it could be such a story.The crusader would make the castle too human....too boring....there has to be fantasy.
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gorman
gorman


Promising
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Been around since before 2003
posted April 24, 2003 07:59 PM

Thanks to all who voted for me! j/k
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DragonLord3000
DragonLord3000


Known Hero
Romanian flamethrower
posted September 23, 2006 09:24 PM

crusaders are not the strongest unit that can be recruited by normal people(a.k.a. castle town).since angels were interpreted from babies in some pictures i saw,now I hope this is not blasfemmy!!!!!,to some real strong schwarzenegger tipes,seemes like a good idea,but should go without the beard..
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Sindbad
Sindbad


Famous Hero
The lost soul
posted September 23, 2006 10:02 PM

Why the heck do you reply to such old threads DragonLord? Nobody is going to chat with you here (I think).
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alcibiades
alcibiades


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
posted September 23, 2006 11:31 PM

Yeah, PLEASE do not revive topics that have gone extinct except if you still see a relevance of the topic. This topic is from 2003 (!!!) and refers to ANOTHER VERSION OF THE GAME than the one currently in discussion. So please, think twice before you flood the forum in all these pointless topics.

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