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adriancat
Famous Hero
Protector Of The Peace
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posted September 12, 2014 06:58 PM |
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Galaad said: [quote name=adriancatSo I dunno why the heck they want to introduce them in this faction's line-up.
Phoenixes were H2's Champ and were originaly planned to be there in H5 as well(NWC).
We are talking about Ashan's Sylvan here, not NWC's Sorceress Town. My opinion is that the Phoenix should remain a summoned and a neutral creature, because it doesn't fit well will the Sylvan theme. Just imagine H5' Sylvan, with that tree and that lake, with a Firebird in it. It would be just like out-of-place. This is my opinion
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Lokheit
Known Hero
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posted September 12, 2014 06:58 PM |
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Edited by Lokheit at 19:01, 12 Sep 2014.
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Galaad said: Vote sounds quite hypocrite, Unicorns should have been in at least two proposals out of the three for obvious reasons. Strenght already "won"..
Tell that to Earth's Balance 42% (and keeps getting higher with time) voting percentage
I'm fine with that as Earth's Balance was my choice, the strategy side is great (a huge lot of entangle and a huge lot of shooting, strike and run and/or no retaliation) and it doesn't force you to focus on 2 specific units sinergizing with each others. Dryads will probably be crapt if your champion choice isn't Treant on the other 2 options.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted September 12, 2014 06:59 PM |
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adriancat said: Phoenixes are FIRE creatures, and Sylvan is an EARTH faction, as the name "Earth's Perfect Balance" suggests. So I dunno why the heck they want to introduce them in this faction's line-up. They may well keep it for an eventually Fortress expansion, and give us something else, or just Treants and Green Drags.
Element Race Factions? NO, THANK YOU
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 12, 2014 07:00 PM |
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OH MY GOD! I just saw the votes!
Who wants a fiery bird in the forest? How? Why? This is gonna be a parody isn't it? karma is a b1tch!i shouldn't boast about sylvan so much
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Protolisk
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted September 12, 2014 07:03 PM |
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I actually scared myself there for a moment. I thought it was Sylanna's Fury that was wining... whew.
As long as that doesn't win, I will be happy. And now that I think about it, didn't people dislike healing units? Then why would they even like the Dryad in the first place, and wouldn't it necessitate the use of treants as champions to make Dryads useful at all? I am warming up to "Earth's Balance" more. I find it strange that only when Treant is automatically needed (being a Elite) that Dryad is nowhere to be seen...
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alex_yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 12, 2014 07:14 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Lokheit said:
- Emerald knights could always ride unicorns to keep them....
I seriously hoping that the Emerald Knights are those Lynxriding Elves, of the Artwork that has been roaming around the Internet for a long time.
Edit: This one.
+1
I voted for The Strength of the Forest, because Sylvan without unicorns is not Sylvan. And it has both this interesting new snake thingy AND emerald warriors (wich, I hope, as War-overlord has said, are lynx riders). Earth’s Perfect Balance is interesting too as it has pheonix in the lineup, but unicorn is absent. Finaly, Sylanna's Fury is ah huge NO for me. Uncreative blade dancers? Check. No iconic-to-elves unicorns? Check. No potential lynx riders? Check. Granted, it has a deer wich I would love to see, but not at a cost of loosing lynx riders.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted September 12, 2014 07:18 PM |
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The deer unit is the only thing that is interesting in the Sylannas Fury line-up. Other then that it's the most boring one. I mean c'mon Pixie and Dryad seem very similar, and Blade Dancers are a no-no... And Unicorns are to important/nostalgic for me to cast them away (though basically they are horses with a horn, what's so special about them ), so for now I voted for the Strength of the Forest...
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alex_yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 12, 2014 07:21 PM |
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blob2 said: The deer unit is the only thing that is interesting in the Sylannas Fury line-up. Other then that it's the most boring one. I mean c'mon Pixie and Dryad seem very similar, and Blade Dancers are a no-no... And Unicorns are to important/nostalgic for me to cast them away (though basically they are horses with a horn, what's so special about them ), so for now I voted for the Strength of the Forest...
Go Strength of the Forest!!!
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted September 12, 2014 07:24 PM |
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All right, I changed my mind and I too voted for Strength of the Forest. I think Earth's Perfect Balance is the weakest line-up, I really don't want Phoenixes in Sylvan, why is it leading the official poll?
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 12, 2014 07:27 PM |
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Nostalgia.. I can't think of any other reason
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alex_yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 12, 2014 07:28 PM |
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Kronos1000 said: All right, I changed my mind and I too voted for Strength of the Forest. I think Earth's Perfect Balance is the weakest line-up, I really don't want Phoenixes in Sylvan, why is it leading the official poll?
That is nothing bad. It is not leading by large (only 8%), so it is quite possible that Strength of the Forest will outscore it by the end of the week, if not day
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted September 12, 2014 07:33 PM |
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alex_yakub said:
Kronos1000 said: All right, I changed my mind and I too voted for Strength of the Forest. I think Earth's Perfect Balance is the weakest line-up, I really don't want Phoenixes in Sylvan, why is it leading the official poll?
That is nothing bad. It is not leading by large (only 8%), so it is quite possible that Strength of the Forest will outscore it by the end of the week, if not day
I hope you're right
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TDL
Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
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posted September 12, 2014 07:37 PM |
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They should have revealed stronghold's lineup sooner...
if ( thunderbird )
{
Object[][] sylvan = new Obj[tiers][units];
sylvan[champion].push("Treant");
sylvan[champion].push("Emerald Dragon");
}
else
{
Object[][] sylvan = new Obj[tiers][units];
sylvan[champion].push("Treant");
sylvan[champion].push("Thunderbird"); // sylvan[champion].push("Phoenix");
}
Simple as peas.
Whichever the way, they have ridiculously effed up with these lineups... They should have rather added a vote for each distinctive tier with several units instead of full line-ups... Now if you want to change a unit mid-way, you'd have to step back and take a look at the premise of the voting system, which sets everything in stone for further development... And it backfires. Well done.
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blizz
Known Hero
of temper grace
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posted September 12, 2014 07:41 PM |
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I seriously hope that in case Earth's perfect balance wins, Phoenix won't be a classical fire themed one but more nature themed instead. Like moon phoenix in H6 but with leaves instead of feathers or something. A fire phoenix would just stand out in a Sylvan faction in the worst possible way.
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alex_yakub
Famous Hero
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posted September 12, 2014 07:44 PM |
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blizz said: I seriously hope that in case Earth's perfect balance wins, Phoenix won't be a classical fire themed one but more nature themed instead. Like moon phoenix in H6 but with leaves instead of feathers or something. A fire phoenix would just stand out in a Sylvan faction in the worst possible way.
And leafy pheonix will not be a peonix at all. Heroes6 moon pheonix was the farthest it could get, and leafy one... It's just TOO far from a classic fiery one
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted September 12, 2014 07:45 PM |
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Dave_Jame said: Nostalgia.. I can't think of any other reason
Can't be nostalgia when Unicorns are more part of Sylvan than Phoenix
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted September 12, 2014 07:49 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Dave_Jame said: Nostalgia.. I can't think of any other reason
Can't be nostalgia when Unicorns are more part of Sylvan than Phoenix
But I don't see people highlighting Unicorns in their coments, but I do see a lot of "nice Pheonix is back" like if it was not in every game :-(
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We see, we look, we gather, we store, we teach.
We are many, and you can be one of us.
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TDL
Honorable
Supreme Hero
The weak suffer. I endure.
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posted September 12, 2014 07:57 PM |
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Kronos1000 said: All right, I changed my mind and I too voted for Strength of the Forest. I think Earth's Perfect Balance is the weakest line-up, I really don't want Phoenixes in Sylvan, why is it leading the official poll?
Two reasons:
1. Treants should never ever be a champion unit.
2. People who first played h3 will choose unicorns, people who first player h4 will choose phoenixes...
That said, NO1 is my personal opinion, but I'd rather see elves be more balanced than slow and sturdy. IMO if you decide to include elves, their faction should be nimble, swift, with some backup tanks (treants in h5, phoenixes/griffins in h4) and I do not for one want to see another tank champion unit in a million years...
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted September 12, 2014 07:59 PM |
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TDL said:
Two reasons:
1. Treants should never ever be a champion unit.
2. People who first played h3 will choose unicorns, people who first player h2 will choose phoenixes...
Fixed that for you
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted September 12, 2014 08:01 PM |
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ok the earth's balance fell by 1 percent!
i really think putin the devil votes for the phoenixes. i am pretty sure about that!
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