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Zeki
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posted September 15, 2014 06:02 PM |
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Wait i think i missed something somewhere; since when is the green Dragon not a flyer anymore?! Could someone please show me the source or something?
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Avonu
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posted September 15, 2014 06:04 PM |
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Zeki said: Wait i think i missed something somewhere; since when is the green Dragon not a flyer anymore?! Could someone please show me the source or something?
Here you have
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=40444&PID=1240664#focus
And also (Undead) Green Dragon art from DoC
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RMZ1989
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posted September 15, 2014 06:09 PM |
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The description of Green Dragon on official H7 site doesn't state that he is flyer and Marzhin confirmed that this time Green Dragon is a walker, together with that post by info-service(Limbic Entertainment).
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Storm-Giant
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posted September 15, 2014 06:17 PM |
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Stevie said:
Storm-Giant said:
Stevie said: Balance - tons of abilities Heroes 6 style.
Lie to yourself, but no to the whole forum. They stated that H7 won't be the ability fest H6 was.
I didn't lied, I stated an impression. I won't take any chances. So more abilities, no thank you.
H5 also had a bunch of abilities and worked well. Your impressions are intentionally flawed.
AcidDragon said: Thank you for the info.
This confirms, that despite possible differences between variants and because of the change in the Dragon concept, both Strength of the Forest and Sylanna's Fury will get to choose between two "heavy walkers" as champions. And both of them are designed to "stay back and protect the ranged units".
If any of those two options win, we will be choosing between a tank and a tank, both of which were designed to STAY BACK in a fight.
Now even if you are a fan of that kind of strategy (and I can even see why), then there are two reasons why vote Earth's Balance instead.
Reason 1. At least SOMETIMES it's good to have an actual choice and in some cases a strategy depending on a fast-hitting, flying champion may be better then again using a tank. Like in siege battles.
Reason 2. Earth's Perfect Balance is the only option where you can get BOTH - the Treant and the Dragon in a single army, so even if you are into tanks, you can tank all you want .
+1 to this. A melee champion staying just in front of shooters is not fun, they should be wipping the floor attacking the enemy.
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Stevie
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posted September 15, 2014 06:29 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
Stevie said:
Storm-Giant said:
Stevie said: Balance - tons of abilities Heroes 6 style.
Lie to yourself, but no to the whole forum. They stated that H7 won't be the ability fest H6 was.
I didn't lied, I stated an impression. I won't take any chances. So more abilities, no thank you.
H5 also had a bunch of abilities and worked well. Your impressions are intentionally flawed.
No. You are debating a straw man. I said nothing about Heroes 5, what I DID say was about Heroes 6. If you want to debate H5 vs H6 then sorry, we've been there already with several threads in the past. And I know for a fact you were supportive of JJ which was arguing against the abilityfest in Heroes 6. So you're just trying to oppose me for the sake of it. At least admit it.
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted September 15, 2014 06:30 PM |
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Ah, thanks alot for the quick responses, Avonu and RMZ1989
Well, that is bad news, at least for me as i don't like non-
flying dragons, i mean that's part of what defines them.. On the other side we'll get behemoths, yay!
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DarkLord
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posted September 15, 2014 06:33 PM |
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Zeki said: Ah, thanks alot for the quick responses, Avonu and RMZ1989
Well, that is bad news, at least for me as i don't like non-
flying dragons, i mean that's part of what defines them.. On the other side we'll get behemoths, yay!
well if Ubi give opportunity to vote, maybe we will end up with ORC SMASHER/SLASHER or whatever instead of Behemoths..
or a POKEMON??? for stronghold champion???
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Zeki
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posted September 15, 2014 06:34 PM |
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DarkLord said:
Zeki said: Ah, thanks alot for the quick responses, Avonu and RMZ1989
Well, that is bad news, at least for me as i don't like non-
flying dragons, i mean that's part of what defines them.. On the other side we'll get behemoths, yay!
well if Ubi give opportunity to vote, maybe we will end up with ORC SMASHER/SLASHER or whatever instead of Behemoths..
or a POKEMON??? for stronghold champion???
Heh, Joke aside, i don't (want) to believe that they can mess up a Line-Up so much with a behemoth in that it won't be voted.
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Storm-Giant
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posted September 15, 2014 06:52 PM |
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Stevie said: No. You are debating a straw man. I said nothing about Heroes 5, what I DID say was about Heroes 6. If you want to debate H5 vs H6 then sorry, we've been there already with several threads in the past. And I know for a fact you were supportive of JJ which was arguing against the abilityfest in Heroes 6. So you're just trying to oppose me for the sake of it. At least admit it.
What? Of course you didn't say anything about H5, I said that. Because H5 is a testament of creatures having abilities and game working fine.
But Limbic guy saying that Earth's Perfect Balance will not rely just on damage but also on abilities doesn't mean it's going to be an ability fest like H6, which is what you implied. One just has to take a look at H7 website to see that Balance lineup isn't an ability fest.
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Stevie
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posted September 15, 2014 06:57 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 18:59, 15 Sep 2014.
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Alex_Yakub
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posted September 15, 2014 07:00 PM |
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Wow, that music is truly beautiful!!! Also, I'm plesantly surprized that developers actually took some time to clarify the situation. Sorry, Fury voters, for accusing you Also, yay, behemoth is back
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War-overlord
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posted September 15, 2014 07:03 PM |
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Alex_Yakub said: Also, yay, behemoth is back
Might be back.
We haven't voted yet.
And before you say anything, the Phoenix is having an uphill struggle. As does the Unicorn, so old creatures returning isn't enough to guarantee a win.
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Alex_Yakub
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posted September 15, 2014 07:03 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Alex_Yakub said: Also, yay, behemoth is back
Might be back.
We haven't voted yet.
And before you say anything, the Phoenix is having an uphill struggle. As does the Unicorn, so old creatures returning isn't enough to guarantee a win.
That is better than nothing
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odium
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posted September 15, 2014 07:04 PM |
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I guess that the sylvan theme sounds good. There is only one thing that struck me as odd, the fact that it includes some oriental/turkish/arabic influences in it. I think those are better suited for Academy.
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War-overlord
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posted September 15, 2014 07:05 PM |
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Alex_Yakub said: That is better than nothing
Fair enough.
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Alex_Yakub
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posted September 15, 2014 07:08 PM |
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odium said: I guess that the sylvan theme sounds good. There is only one thing that struck me as odd, the fact that it includes some oriental/turkish/arabic influences in it. I think those are better suited for Academy.
I'm pretty sure it is more celtic or native american.
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Kurush
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posted September 15, 2014 07:13 PM |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APKbUW1rr5g
This is celtic, Elven Coronation is definitly arabic.
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War-overlord
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posted September 15, 2014 07:13 PM |
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Alex_Yakub said:
I'm pretty sure it is more celtic or native american.
That sure ain't Celtic.
I like the theme though. It still feels very Elf, despite it not feeling Celtic.
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odium
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posted September 15, 2014 07:16 PM |
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Alex_Yakub said:
odium said: I guess that the sylvan theme sounds good. There is only one thing that struck me as odd, the fact that it includes some oriental/turkish/arabic influences in it. I think those are better suited for Academy.
I'm pretty sure it is more celtic or native american.
I'm pretty sure that the instrument that start around 33s is oriental/turkish/arabic as an influence.
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Kurush
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posted September 15, 2014 07:18 PM |
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Edited by Kurush at 19:19, 15 Sep 2014.
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Storm-Giant said:
AcidDragon said: Thank you for the info.
This confirms, that despite possible differences between variants and because of the change in the Dragon concept, both Strength of the Forest and Sylanna's Fury will get to choose between two "heavy walkers" as champions. And both of them are designed to "stay back and protect the ranged units".
If any of those two options win, we will be choosing between a tank and a tank, both of which were designed to STAY BACK in a fight.
Now even if you are a fan of that kind of strategy (and I can even see why), then there are two reasons why vote Earth's Balance instead.
Reason 1. At least SOMETIMES it's good to have an actual choice and in some cases a strategy depending on a fast-hitting, flying champion may be better then again using a tank. Like in siege battles.
Reason 2. Earth's Perfect Balance is the only option where you can get BOTH - the Treant and the Dragon in a single army, so even if you are into tanks, you can tank all you want .
+1 to this. A melee champion staying just in front of shooters is not fun, they should be wipping the floor attacking the enemy.
Fury's Treants have high Defense, Attack, and INITIATIVE, dosen't seem too tanky. I'd still prefer the slow but strong Strength line-up
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