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blahbloke
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This kid is a mangossip
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posted April 18, 2008 01:55 AM |
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Well, gun or not, it would be good as long they dont put in the raving rabbit. >.<
(aparently blizzard put some unexpected things in warcraft 3 campagin, like a hydralisk and panda wallpaper)
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 18, 2008 08:46 AM |
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Northern France is in Northern Europe 
I thougt the story of Ashan is very intersting and good. It will be interesting how they will develop the story.
TotE had a great story and campaign.
And there is 0 chance that we will go back to old universe (but if you think about... maybe they are in the same universe, Ashan is just another planet).
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Over himself, over his own
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blahbloke
Hired Hero
This kid is a mangossip
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posted April 18, 2008 03:59 PM |
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Who care where france is, let see, france is in china, cos i said it. (wel, they both eat frog legs... emmmm... frog leg... ahhh..)
I have no idea with the story line of any heroes game, although I started playing heroes serie when I was 10. (32167 , black dragon code.. that only way to win game that time), the story took too long.
So what happened in the old universe? and whats the story of Ashan, short and brief.
(em.. little off topic here, who care, this is internet)
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted April 18, 2008 05:00 PM |
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Northern France is in Northern Europe
I thougt the story of Ashan is very intersting and good. It will be interesting how they will develop the story.
TotE had a great story and campaign.
And there is 0 chance that we will go back to old universe (but if you think about... maybe they are in the same universe, Ashan is just another planet).
Well firstly, the old universe and the new universe are certainly not the same and won't be merging, thus Ashan won't be a planet in the old one. Too many problems there with continuity and these Elemental Dragon things which contradict the fundamentals of the old universe.
Secondly, if Ubi actually do try to bring back the old universe, Nival will just spoil it with crappy storytelling, so we're agreed against this at least.
Thirdly, I bet you're not aware that Nival actually wanted to use the old universe in the first place, with Ashan as Axeoth in "the future". Hence we have Lost Palaedra on the beta map (Palaedra was in Heroes IV). But Ubisoft mysteriously took charge and ordered Nival to disregard the old stories and come up with a whole new world full of this... unsavoury stuff we're playing now.
You will note that mightandmagic.com contains a developer diary with excuses as to why they threw the old universe in the bin, apparently because there was no full storyline bible to Axeoth and Colony or something (if only The Spinward Tales had been around then)...
There may be "0 chance" we'll be revisiting the old universe. There's also "0 chance" that Ashan will ever be a match for it 
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 18, 2008 06:09 PM |
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I just said that i liked Ashan and that there is no chance that we will leave it. I like its story, like the creation myth, like the dragon gods.
But the storyline sucked before ToTe.
Okey it didnt, but it was completly ripped from Warcraft III.
Nicolai = Arthas
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Over himself, over his own
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted April 18, 2008 06:31 PM |
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And who would be Thrall ???
Gotai maybe...
At least: Jaina Proudmoore = Isabel
Anyway as in Warcraft III, guns could be acceptable in Heroes. Only if their are musketlike things and NOT laserguns or revolvers!!! That is an insult to the Heroes idea.
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Cepheus
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted April 18, 2008 07:06 PM |
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I just said that i liked Ashan and that there is no chance that we will leave it. I like its story, like the creation myth, like the dragon gods.
Well I already knew that But do not be so sure that the old universe is dead and forgotten, I assure you it's not... 
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But the storyline sucked before ToTe.
Okey it didnt, but it was completly ripped from Warcraft III.
Don't worry. It did suck... Though I don't remember any weddings at the start of Warcraft III? Or Succubi? And weren't there Orcs there?
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blahbloke
Hired Hero
This kid is a mangossip
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posted April 20, 2008 11:27 AM |
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rip from warcraft 3? so wat? warcraft 3 ripped bare from h4
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted April 20, 2008 04:18 PM |
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It's sortof a trading thing.
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nurul
Disgraceful
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 21, 2008 10:13 PM |
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Gun in HoMM is suck!
I like master gremlin in HoMM3 Much more than in HoMM5
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Feenor
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posted April 22, 2008 10:52 AM |
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I'd like to see guns like those from warcraft 3. Simple guns were even before crossbows.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted April 23, 2008 12:48 AM |
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I'd like to see guns like those from warcraft 3. Simple guns were even before crossbows.
No they weren't, but they were around in the early 14th century.
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Feenor
Known Hero
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posted April 23, 2008 11:31 AM |
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I'd like to see guns like those from warcraft 3. Simple guns were even before crossbows.
No they weren't, but they were around in the early 14th century.
So I say: guns in China were before crossbows in Europe.
OT: If about china, what about oriental fraction in Homm 6 with ninjas, dragons etc.
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nurul
Disgraceful
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 23, 2008 11:30 PM |
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Yes..
I agree with Chinese dragon..
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted April 23, 2008 11:37 PM |
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So I say: guns in China were before crossbows in Europe.
OT: If about china, what about oriental fraction in Homm 6 with ninjas, dragons etc.
The Greeks had a crossbow weapon called the gastraphetes in the first century AD, and believed to have been invented centuries before, therein, predating the gun by about a millenium (at least).
The problem with creating a far-east styled faction is the lack of unique creatures, so you tend to end up with a Haven style town, a lot of humans and a few creatures.
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thehiddeneye
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 28, 2008 10:03 PM |
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I vote yes
As you can from my creature suggestions, I have two gun-using units (Gunslinger and Arbalest), not counting my Sanctuary faction suggestion which has another one (the Dhampir). I don't think guns disturb the balance- what's the difference between a bullet/cannonball and a fireball/lightning bolt? Remember this is FANTASY- so what if the Castle (for example) has guns, the other towns got magic and fantastical creatures to counter their slightly more advanced technology... Also, if you saw the movie "the Last Samurai", medieval weaponry CAN prevail against non-automatic guns.
So I say- machineguns, sniper rifles, grenades and rockets a strict No- more primitive, Rennesiance-era firearms- Yes. Remember this isn't the real world, where a single gunshot brings down a guy (but a good sword blow or well-aimed arrow are just as likely to take him out)- this is fantasy!
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Geny
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted April 28, 2008 10:09 PM |
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this is fantasy
Lol, I like that both sides use this sentence, each for their own cause.
True, it's fantasy and guns probably would not be overpowered, but on the other hand - it's fantasy where all the factions (except Orcs) know how to use magic and therefore any advancement of gunpowder is redundant since a good wizard can do all that and so much more.
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mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted April 28, 2008 10:57 PM |
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Quote:
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So I say: guns in China were before crossbows in Europe.
OT: If about china, what about oriental fraction in Homm 6 with ninjas, dragons etc.
The Greeks had a crossbow weapon called the gastraphetes in the first century AD, and believed to have been invented centuries before, therein, predating the gun by about a millenium (at least).
The problem with creating a far-east styled faction is the lack of unique creatures, so you tend to end up with a Haven style town, a lot of humans and a few creatures.
far east mythological creatures.
oni-japanese demon
thousand tailed fox
pheonix (un unique)
qiln
izanagi and izanami
kappa
etc: i even created an entire faction (a bad one though) about them incorporating a yin/yang concept as a racial.
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fieldpriest
Hired Hero
an orthodox revolutionist
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posted April 28, 2008 11:04 PM |
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Quite funny that the crucial argument for guns in HoM&M VI is Warcraft. Does anybody remember Disciples II where we had flamethrower?
But, it was by the way.
I'm into the idea of technics for two reasons:
1. Bring some fresh air into the series.
2. I'm a great M&M series fan and some time ago I had realised that the universe HoM&M is... less complete (?) than this one of M&M. The second one had it own myths, history (not storyline but history) etc. etc., while the still vast plot of HoMM is rather orthodox fantasy. Even we aren't informed that Kreegans are simply aliens. So: the plot. Well supported idea of a faction using technology would be very appreciated from my side.
All in all, I'd like to ask you all about one thing: some of you may agree with the thesis that somwhere there in space may be another intelligent race. Most of us do like the sci-fi films where human meets other races. Why don't we allow fantasy world's inhabitants to meet them too? Because what? Because it would simply de-so-la-te the traditional world?
Bwah, I think that in this way we only will be able to receive the next generations of Heroes III clones. Ok, Heroes V. Do we reallly want to? :/
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted April 28, 2008 11:06 PM |
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I dunno, Fantasy Creatures from another world? Did they not just do that in World of Warcraft?
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