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sith_of_ziost
Promising
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posted September 28, 2008 11:13 PM |
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Warmonger, that is dangerously close for me to call a Moderator. Please, if you have nothing productive to say, do not say it. If you wish to state a counter-arguement, then do it in a calm and composed manner. Thank you.
As per the combo, it does not work for this reason.
When you play the spell, it goes to the stack, right? And replicate costs are additional costs. So, if you played BBBBB for one Dark ritual, you will get 15 black in return. Its one shot. I know how you thought that each copy has replicate, but they don't, since you didn't pay anything for the copies past the replicate cost. Do you understand? 
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pinkman11
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posted September 29, 2008 02:21 AM |
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lol ok makes sense now , but that would be cool lol...shards ;looks like it is gunna be awsome!!!!
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Mamgaeater
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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted September 29, 2008 03:04 AM |
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SPoilers
Went to the prerelease and went 0-5...
to top it all off I got NO MYTHIC RARES and my rares were in colors i didn't have enough spells for (blue)
THings i learned
Woolly thoctar is a great 3 drop
i opened three ultimatums (two were after the tourney)
predator dragon is a game winning spell (eat all my stuff and swing for 16)
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sith_of_ziost
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posted September 29, 2008 05:07 AM |
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Sounds like my luck. Ha. Yeah, as soon as a saw Predator Dragon, i'm thinking...REMOVE SOUL!
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted September 29, 2008 04:21 PM |
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Aarg, crap! I misunderstood the Djin's text! But hwo needs thoose kinds of combos?
If you can make everything you own Indestructible and give them shroud, you are kind of immortal!
(I hate thoose tactics! It's not even fun to play against peoble with that kind of deck)
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Mamgaeater
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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted September 29, 2008 08:33 PM |
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uhhmmm Worldpurge?
hallowed burial?
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dota
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sith_of_ziost
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posted September 29, 2008 10:16 PM |
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Touche Mamga! Yeah, Inundate works too. Hey, i'm a blue duelist!
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted September 30, 2008 05:26 PM |
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Warmonger@ I just noticed that you don't like cheap combos?
I understand you don't like the idea of infinite mana.. But tell me then, what is your favorite card that leads you to victory?
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When you play the spell, it goes to the stack, right? And replicate costs are additional costs. So, if you played BBBBB for one Dark ritual, you will get 15 black in return. Its one shot. I know how you thought that each copy has replicate, but they don't, since you didn't pay anything for the copies past the replicate cost. Do you understand?
Yeah, i just thought i could copy the copy :S But yeah, i asked the judge and they say the same as you 
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sith_of_ziost
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posted September 30, 2008 11:32 PM |
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Yeah, it tends to work out that way. 
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted October 01, 2008 07:00 PM |
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Pinkman got his combo with ulimited mana..
I tried to mass spell without luck, but i found a new combo i especially likes (But only uses in tournaments arround denmark, because it's not fun for your friends to play with this combo!)
A combo with theese 4 cards is the ultimate! And even better in artifact decks!
   
And ofcourse the luck of getting all 4 is small, but you can boost that luck with theese cards:
  
If you haven't figured it out, it gives you and all your cards shroud. So removing them from the game doesn't even work..
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Warmonger
Promising
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posted October 01, 2008 07:05 PM |
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Quote:
I understand you don't like the idea of infinite mana.. But tell me then, what is your favorite card that leads you to victory?
That was not my point, but anyway:
Generally I enjoy playing with or against aggro-control decks like Survival or Fish as then there is a high level of interactiion betwen both players. They have to make right decision all the time and can respond to the actions of each other, this is actually what we can call "strategy".
Most combo decks are unplayable as you either try to assemble fragile one-trick card combinations which depends on card draws more than any actual skill, or for a serious quater set a solitare while your oppoent is having a conversation or goes to the toilet. If not in a tournament, he's likely to just leave you.
I was really aiming to discussion about some established archetypes or deck ideas, not absurd combos of 8-mana cards unexperienced players try to assemble.
I quit playing almost two years ago, so don't know what Shroud is.
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted October 01, 2008 07:48 PM |
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Okay, i see your point.
Erhm, most combos is based on luck with drawing cards..
I don't like playing against insanely power decks! It's not fun to win a game if it's because you have an ammount of creatres in graveyard, or in play or an ammount of life total and all thoose cards..
They makes uexperienced players chances to win higher than it should be.
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Shroud is:
Can't be target of spells or abilities.
And if everything you own has Shroud and is Indestructible you cannot lose! (Not fun to win by this way either, but it's a safe play in tournaments!)
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Talkin about shroud! If everything has shroud! How is it possible to win? You can't target anything in the opponents deck! Only by lethal damage.. But that doens't work if they are indestructible too!
Any suggestions?
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sith_of_ziost
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posted October 01, 2008 11:28 PM |
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No. They are not indestructible with Shroud and indestructible. Ha, Worldpurge will still work. Things like Cruel Edict and Curse of the Cabal still work.
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pinkman11
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posted October 02, 2008 02:39 AM |
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lol nice , warmonger , could we all play nice in the sand box? sorry had to say that but can we all get along? this is a friendly place and i play with an elf deck so not hard to win with , but i also want to make anew deck. ('')
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Mamgaeater
Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
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posted October 02, 2008 03:07 AM |
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I found a useful combo
 
if i can muster up the cards I'm going to make a deck that takes stuff... lots of stuff.
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dota
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted October 02, 2008 06:01 PM |
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No. They are not indestructible with Shroud and indestructible. Ha, Worldpurge will still work. Things like Cruel Edict and Curse of the Cabal still work.
Erh, in short:
Sending cards back to their hands will work?
And Sacrifice works?
(I don't understand why they work? They target the player and/or the creatures.. And shroud can't be target)
Coul you please explain me how this works?
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mamgaeater
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posted October 02, 2008 08:39 PM |
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Shroud only prevents them from being targeted.
And indestructible prevents them from being destroyed or dieing from lethal damage.
Things that don't target are unnaffected by shroud.
sacrifice is different from destroy.
You cannot regenerate a sacced creature
ask sith for more details i'm feeling lazy
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted October 02, 2008 09:19 PM |
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So if i cast plague wind, does that kill creatures with shroud
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Mamgaeater
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posted October 02, 2008 09:57 PM |
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Yes because it doesn't specifically target the creature.
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted October 02, 2008 11:06 PM |
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Aaah, thanks mamgaeater That's good stuf to know!
With my cards i actually have good chances to get rif of thoose shroud cards!
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