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phinex
Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
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posted December 17, 2010 04:54 AM |
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Edited by phinex at 05:04, 17 Dec 2010.
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lichking012
Known Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 04:56 AM |
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Overall I REALLY like the new stronghold. I think that the roc could have been cool, but I really like the bone thing, It looks completely Badsnow. Its snowing tight. I think it also may be the new behemoth if that makes any sense. I definitely see unique combat with this faction. there only flier is the harpy. I imagine that the cyclopses still shoot goblins like in H5 (one of the things I always always loved) which once again makes them an interesting unit. I like the new centuar and the shaman is Ok. This is completely from left field to me, I was totally 100% expecting Academy as the 4th faction, but I guess it's not hard to make it an expansion. Now we just need to pray for a h3 fortess-esque naga town.
Just for fun this is the line-up I see.
Core - Medusa, gnoll, Lizardman
Elite - Naga, Gorgon, Wyvern
Champion - Hydra
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SwampLord
Supreme Hero
Lord of the Swamp
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posted December 17, 2010 05:02 AM |
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Something's worrying me about Stronghold.
They have 0 Elite or Champion flyers. I don't know how big of an issue that is in the context of HVI battles, but seeing as Haven appears to have 3 fliers in its elite/Champion slots, that seems like it could be a bit of a problem.
Here's hoping they account for that and balance it out!
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They can take my swamp, they can take my town, but they will never take my FREEDOM!
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phinex
Adventuring Hero
for sylvan
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posted December 17, 2010 05:06 AM |
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Edited by phinex at 05:12, 17 Dec 2010.
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Quote: Something's worrying me about Stronghold.
They have 0 Elite or Champion flyers. I don't know how big of an issue that is in the context of HVI battles, but seeing as Haven appears to have 3 fliers in its elite/Champion slots, that seems like it could be a bit of a problem.
Here's hoping they account for that and balance it out!
Demons have the same problem.
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MattII
Legendary Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 05:27 AM |
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Demons get teleport though, or at least some do, which is equivalent to flying. Of course if the Cyclops is a ranged unit that may help to alleviate the issue.
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emilsn
Legendary Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 06:07 AM |
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worst centaur ever.. :/ yeah I said it
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Don't walk behind me; I may not
lead. Don't walk in front of me;
I may not follow. Just walk
beside me and be my friend.
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admira
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 06:34 AM |
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Quote: worst centaur ever.. :/ yeah I said it
that is freakin' centaur zebra, with red stripes for the upgrade
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Properkheldar
Famous Hero
Keeper of books
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posted December 17, 2010 07:12 AM |
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Has anyone noticed the creature guarding a statue and some wood up in the far left corner of the screenshot with the fully upgraded stronghold town?
It´s probably a centaur....but the colouring seems a bit off, looks like a paleskinned woman with a shoulderpad and some white ribbon or something in her hair.
Theres actually another creature guarding a statue that looks strange to me, its in the screenshot of the stronghold thats guarded by an upgraded cyklops, opposite to it. Almost looks like a little lizard. I have zoomed in screendumps of them both by i can´t seem to be able to put them in this post...
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bludgeon
Known Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 07:38 AM |
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Quote:
Quote: worst centaur ever.. :/ yeah I said it
that is freakin' centaur zebra, with red stripes for the upgrade
They must have watched too much Tom Green
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/2038535401
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Meskyn
Adventuring Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 08:08 AM |
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It could be the consequence of being half-human and half-demon...
Or using magic without training maybe...
I think that we are going to get explanation on description of a shaman with the artwork on the facebook. But now anything is possible...
Goblin's hand cull
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 08:12 AM |
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I'm very impressed by the screenshots, they look fantastic and it's a great thing we don't have to wait till 2011 so they can reveal the units one by one. Also good that the autumn plains have nothing to do with Disciples III's Elves.
But I'm slightly disappointed that my assumption was right, the 40% new units thing is meant for the whole game, so the bigger amount of new Inferno units is balanced out with almost nothing changed in Stronghold, looks like the big guy is the same as Slayer and the other 2 just changed their genders...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 17, 2010 09:19 AM |
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The jaguar guy has nothing to do with the slayer we knew. If you see his abilities and description(!) you are gonna love it
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Demonge
Known Hero
more than meets the eyes
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posted December 17, 2010 10:16 AM |
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Edited by Demonge at 10:17, 17 Dec 2010.
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Stronghold has no flyers as Elite/Champ (well, just as in H2), but has got 3 shooters in its army (Core, Elite, Champion).
And a shooter as champion is meant to stand for missing Titans, I think.
I'm eager to see the jaguar guy description, cause for the moment, it's the only unit that looks a bit deceiving.
And yes I also think SANDOR and SANDRO really sound too much alike to be coincidence...
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Wait a second! I'm not big-boned, I'm just fat!
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hahakocka
Known Hero
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posted December 17, 2010 10:28 AM |
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Sandor is prounonce and writing with an á, is a hungarian male name. Very famous name in our country. Alexander its english name.
May be more hungarian names will be in the game, now it has got has a hungarian developers team.
In Heroes V Laszlo with an á again is a hungarian male name too. We had kings with this name too in the past.
May be Sandor can be Saendro from the old Heroes games? Hmmm... May be.
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Zenofex
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Kreegan-atheist
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posted December 17, 2010 10:42 AM |
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Apart from the name difference, the old Sandro is a Necromancer, who among other things fights with two pretty famous Barbarians, while this Sandor will most likely be some Barbarian, eventually fighting against Necromancers. So...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted December 17, 2010 10:54 AM |
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Quote: I think that the jaguar orc is much like Behemoth!
So maybe it has same abilities?
That was amongst my first thoughts actually His ability is activated though so not quite the same.
I also was thinking about the H6 theme just before I logged in. I hope it gets uploaded on youtube soon after the concert, either way I bet ubi will release it soon enough.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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PeterFarkas
Adventuring Hero
LeBronTosaurus
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posted December 17, 2010 11:15 AM |
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Quote: Sandor is prounonce and writing with an á, is a hungarian male name. Very famous name in our country. Alexander its english name.
May be more hungarian names will be in the game, now it has got has a hungarian developers team.
In Heroes V Laszlo with an á again is a hungarian male name too. We had kings with this name too in the past.
May be Sandor can be Saendro from the old Heroes games? Hmmm... May be.
Don't forget Zoltan as well.
Anyway, I can hardly imagine that Sandor and Sandro are the same.
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whiterider
Known Hero
death walks with me
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posted December 17, 2010 11:36 AM |
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I dont know if it has been discussed yet, but have you noticed that Stronghold has 3 archers:
Goblins with boomerangs
Centauri with bows
Cyclops shooting Goblins
And if the Harpies have strike and return ability that makes them archers in nature too.
About the look of Centauri, I had an old idea for a Desert Town ruled by a single Warlock for thousands of years that has changed himself into semi-dragon sacrificing dragons of all kinds and absorbing their essence. And the Centauri were designed as a low level unit there:
• Centaur – Centaur Hunters
The Centauri are proud and vile creatures that spend most of their time striving to perfect their combat abilities which makes them one of the most cunning and fast creatures of the Red Desert. Many tribes of Centauri take part in furious competitions and have a very strict code that puts only the best of the best on the top of their society. After every contest or battle won the survived Centauri win the right to mark their bodies with magical tattoos that enchance their skills. They take care of the countless thralls of the Dragon Emperor and hunt ruthlessly those that try to escape from their slave masters.
Abilities: Mad Charge – when charging for longer then 3 tiles distance the Centauri always do maximum damage, if good luck shines upon them, than the damage is doubled.
Long Weapon – wielding great spears the Centauri can pierce their enemies from distance (if not charging)
Weakness – very large damage range
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I was imagining them similar to these Stronghold Centauri but not as Zebras - their stripes are actually enchanced tatoos, usually red in color.
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted December 17, 2010 11:54 AM |
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I'd like to see harpies carry small troops to other tiles of the battlefield, that'd resolve lack of fliers problem.
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted December 17, 2010 12:13 PM |
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You mean the guy with skulls on his hands?
Definetly looks like an orc.
Now whine please
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none of my business.
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