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posted November 21, 2008 01:46 PM

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However, with careful planning, you can make some partners who are in dire needs of your products, and you will sell them a lot of your products (even though a little cheaper).
Uh huh and how the hell do I figure out this "careful planning"? You're talking as if you know what you're saying. There are PLENTY of nations without a mineral industry and I have them either as Favored or Partner and I don't sell them ****. How precisely can I "careful plan" this?

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So if many nations produce the same things as you, you'll not sell much to the World Market (and neither them)
Is this game imbalanced or what? Aren't nations supposed to have equally distributed industries (i.e not for example, everyone producing cement and then none of them sell it).

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That's what it means with "being spectacularly clever" in the quote: that you should seek partners which need a lot of your products.
If not looking at their industries how exactly?
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posted November 21, 2008 01:48 PM

So what's up with the Nation geography in NS2?

How does it effect the country?

Someone should make a good manual for these two.
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posted November 21, 2008 01:50 PM

@Joonas: It chooses what 3 industries you start with

(I have Mountain and thus Minerals, Cement and 'Wine' (well I think Wine is randomly selected)).





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Money available for trade: 2.25 million pwns
Money remaining after trades: -0.04 million pwns
I mean negative? Come on, wtf is going on with this game
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posted November 21, 2008 01:50 PM
Edited by Asheera at 13:51, 21 Nov 2008.

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Uh huh and how the hell do I figure out this "careful planning"? You're talking as if you know what you're saying. There are PLENTY of nations without a mineral industry and I have them either as Favored or Partner and I don't sell them ****. How precisely can I "careful plan" this?
That's because probably someone else who made that nation partner is selling your products even cheaper. Competition

But yes you can't plan this. Life's cruel, and I'm not joking.

Do you think I don't have surplus of Bananas and Antibiotics even after selling to mvass? And even though I have some other partners, I still don't sell them, because someone else probably does it even cheaper.

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Is this game imbalanced or what? Aren't nations supposed to have equally distributed industries (i.e not for example, everyone producing cement and then none of them sell it).
As far as I know, it's 'imbalanced', since it's chosen randomly and based on your terrain. If many nations have the same terrain than yes, it's imbalanced for the first industry. For the others it's random, so yes it could get imbalanced as well.

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If not looking at their industries how exactly?
Hmm, not sure, I don't think you can actually. That's maybe what Espionage does - see what Partners other nations have, etc, so that you'll be able to plan better.

@Joonas: The first industry is based on terrain, the others are randomly chosen.
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posted November 21, 2008 01:52 PM

So no other effect?

Meaning that mountainous or arctic nation isn't necessarily doomed from the start?

Any idea on what those are? Minerals, bananas and..? Does it really matter what they are?
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posted November 21, 2008 01:53 PM

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That's because probably someone else who made that nation partner is selling your products even cheaper. Competition

But yes you can't plan this. Life's cruel, and I'm not joking.
If you can't plan this why did you say "careful planning"

I was getting the impression you have a secret you wanted to share.

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Do you think I don't have surplus of Bananas and Antibiotics even after selling to mvass? And even though I have some other partners, I still don't sell them, because someone else probably does it even cheaper.
Well obviously I never said it only happens to me... I said it's a damn bug. (look at Mvass with 0.76 million man-eater ears, it keeps decreasing even further).
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posted November 21, 2008 01:53 PM
Edited by Asheera at 13:54, 21 Nov 2008.

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Any idea on what those are? Minerals, bananas and..? Does it really matter what they are?
Of course it matters. Different industries satisfy different needs. And no, I don't know what they are, except that Tropical has bananas and Mountains minerals.

@Death: You can plan with Espionage I think, so go and donate 5 bucks
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posted November 21, 2008 01:55 PM
Edited by TheDeath at 13:56, 21 Nov 2008.

Or you know, just ask them nicely with Telegrams?

(joking)
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posted November 21, 2008 01:57 PM
Edited by JoonasTo at 15:23, 21 Nov 2008.

So mountain is a good choice and tropical sucks?

I wonder what the rest have.

Mountain:minerals
Maritime:fish
River:silk
Forest:Lumber(possible wheat farming)
Desert:Camels
Plains:Cotton
Marsh:Antibiotics?
Tundra:????

So I think I'm going to go tundra just to see what it is.

Any advice for a newbie?
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posted November 21, 2008 03:25 PM

I think that even those industries that are terrain-based are randomly chosen, but from a very restricted area, of course.

I've seen a nation with forest terrain having Minerals (and Ballistic Missiles + Crude Oil) and another having Lumber (and Cars + Scooters)

And maybe Plains have Wheat Farming as well in the choice for the first industry.
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posted November 21, 2008 03:31 PM
Edited by Darkshadow at 15:37, 21 Nov 2008.

Actually, maritime seems to have more of a wheat industry, as I get hardly any fish

Also, smoking is now completely outlawed.Enforced by well funded police, those who smoke/sell smoking products will be on 1 month of forced work , am tired of small pieces of our precious *cough*military*cough* budget going to some people who want to poison themselves, if they want to do that, then go to the store and buy some rat poison, not that hard
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posted November 21, 2008 04:19 PM

2 days ago: Following new legislation in Anime Lolis, poets and writers are regularly rounded up and shot for entertainment.

With the current "culture" running around, and with the "qualitiy" of it (at least here), this was quite refreshing.


Romanian retard: MAH MUMZ HAZ A COW> SHE HAZ TWO TITS AND MILKZ ITSELF!
Romanian Academy: Bravo! Best lyrics since Mihai Eminescu.
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posted November 21, 2008 04:25 PM

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Romanian retard: MAH MUMZ HAZ A COW> SHE HAZ TWO TITS AND MILKZ ITSELF!
Romanian Academy: Bravo! Best lyrics since Mihai Eminescu.
LMAO
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posted November 21, 2008 04:49 PM
Edited by JoonasTo at 16:49, 21 Nov 2008.

Anime Lolis!
Best name ever!

So here's my NS 2 state.


Where's the settings page?

But this is good!
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posted November 21, 2008 05:14 PM

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Where's the settings page?
Somewhere on the left below the 'statistics' you can see a Edit Nation (it's pretty small but it's blue).

Below that you have Issues, National Summary (you can edit the history there), Diplomacy, Economy, Trading, etc etc...
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posted November 21, 2008 05:16 PM

Not that.

The other settings. Like issues per day and such.
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posted November 21, 2008 05:18 PM

You have 2 per day, you can't change that.
You can't upload a custom flag unless you pay 5$ per month.


in which world are you? I'm in 45 along with a few others (mvass, Ash, Celfious, ShadowCaster)
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posted November 21, 2008 05:31 PM
Edited by JoonasTo at 17:32, 21 Nov 2008.

71

That sucks. I feel greedy people.
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posted November 21, 2008 07:38 PM

I've just registered on 71. Search for WTF

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posted November 21, 2008 07:45 PM
Edited by JoonasTo at 19:46, 21 Nov 2008.

We are even the same type of government!

Maybe we should do an alliance?

BTW. Can you change continets here?

No currencies Radar? What up with that?
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