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FireSpirit
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posted May 11, 2005 06:23 AM |
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The steel boat is heavier, because steel has bigger density than wood.
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Korejora
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posted May 11, 2005 06:59 AM |
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The steel boat is much heavier (has more weight). This is because, knowing that both ships are of the same size (and therefore have the same volume), we realize that steel has more mass, because it has a greater mass per volume (better known as density); there are more nucleons in a given volume of steel than a given volume of wood, mainly because the intermolecular bonding is stronger.
Being that the Earth's field of gravity exerts 9.81 newtons of force per kilogram of mass on the boats, and weight is the measure of the force of gravity working on an object, the steel boat, with the greater mass, is much more strongly affected by gravity and thus has a greater weight.
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TheRealDeal
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posted May 11, 2005 07:17 AM |
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Guys you've got this all wrong... (Nice work though Kor)
The ship made of wood is heavier.
Since pound for pound steel is so much stronger than the wooden one, the ship made of wood would require a greater deal of material for it to be of equal strength. So The wooden one is heavier 
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Khayman
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posted May 11, 2005 07:23 AM |
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Resistance is futile, destruction is imminent...
Korejora wrote:Quote:
The steel boat is much heavier (has more weight). This is because, knowing that both ships are of the same size (and therefore have the same volume), we realize that steel has more mass, because it has a greater mass per volume (better known as density); there are more nucleons in a given volume of steel than a given volume of wood, mainly because the intermolecular bonding is stronger.
Being that the Earth's field of gravity exerts 9.81 newtons of force per kilogram of mass on the boats, and weight is the measure of the force of gravity working on an object, the steel boat, with the greater mass, is much more strongly affected by gravity and thus has a greater weight.
Yeah, what she said!
But what if the boats are filled with overweight clowns from outerspace carrying helium balloons shaped like dogs, huh? Who's the smarty pants now? 
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Korejora
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posted May 11, 2005 09:07 PM |
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Quote:
Guys you've got this all wrong... (Nice work though Kor)
The ship made of wood is heavier.
Since pound for pound steel is so much stronger than the wooden one, the ship made of wood would require a greater deal of material for it to be of equal strength. So The wooden one is heavier
Then how is it the same size?
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TheRealDeal
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posted May 12, 2005 07:17 AM |
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Make a Steel boat. Make a wooden boat. The steel one would weigh more than the wooden one, YES. But it also said equal strenght, and wood is so much weaker than steel that the matter of weight will outdraw it.. Meaning you have to use so much wood to get to the point where they are equally strong, that the wooden ship will weigh more!
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted May 12, 2005 11:08 AM |
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Korejora, I think that TRD is right. To make the wooden boat with more wood but keep them the same size, the steel could be really thin and the wood really thick, or not hollow at all.
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Korejora
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posted May 12, 2005 03:00 PM |
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To use enough wood on the wooden boat to make it the same strength as the steel boat, while keeping it the same size, you would have to use so much wood that the structure would be altered and it would no longer be a ship.
N'est-ce pas?
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TheRealDeal
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posted May 12, 2005 03:10 PM |
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Yes it will.. It'll just be somewhat bigger, it cannot attain the same size as the steel one, and still be as strong, and therefore therefore you'll neeed more wood, a lot actually, which makes it heavier then the Steel one.
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Korejora
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posted May 13, 2005 12:39 AM |
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It'll just be somewhat bigger, it cannot attain the same size as the steel one, and still be as strong, and therefore therefore you'll neeed more wood, a lot actually, which makes it heavier then the Steel one.
Somewhat bigger is still bigger. The riddle specifically states that they are the same size.
Is the answer, then, neither, for two boats cannot be made of the two given materials and be both of the same size and of the same strength, by your appparent definition of strength, TheRealDeal?
I'm really not sure what a_rebirthing_flight means by "strength".
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a_rebirthing...
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posted May 13, 2005 07:51 AM |
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nice work Korejora but TRD is correct. 1 point to TRD. steel is strong and wood is weak. more wood is needed to make the ships equal in strenght so wood is heavier. i aslo said nothing of volume.
next riddle
King Henry the VIII gave his wife a bottomless container to put flesh and blood in. what did King Henry give his wife?
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Fiend_Master
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posted May 13, 2005 08:11 AM |
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a beheading ceremony!
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it paces with haste,
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for your sex, for your race.
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted May 13, 2005 08:36 AM |
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A bottomless container to put flesh and blood in?
A head.
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ratmonky
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posted May 13, 2005 10:53 AM |
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guilliotine?
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Dies illa, dies irae,
Calamitatis et miseriae.
Requiem aeternum
Dona eis, dona eis Domine.
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a_rebirthing...
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posted May 13, 2005 01:09 PM |
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a bottomless container guys
no fiend_master
not a head alloy
a gulliotine is not a container ratmonky
all wrong
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TitaniumAlloy
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posted May 13, 2005 01:16 PM |
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I thought it was a head because a head does not have a bottom (as in the body part) and it has flesh and blood in it..
Umm... another interpretation... he got her pregnant? (ie: he gave her a child)?
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angelito
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posted May 13, 2005 01:22 PM |
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I have 2 ideas in mind....but the word "container" probably doesn´t fit correct here:
1. a ring (wedding e.g.)
2. a crown (for the queen)
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TheRealDeal
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posted May 13, 2005 02:38 PM |
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A Ring.
A Crown
A Chastity Belt
^_^ This is the first riddle i've heard before 
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a_rebirthing...
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posted May 13, 2005 03:04 PM |
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angelito is right. answer is a ring. 1 point to angelito
next riddle
in our calendar some monnths have 30 days and some months have 31 days. how many months have 28 days?
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TheRealDeal
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posted May 13, 2005 03:09 PM |
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All 12. most months just have more than 28 days.
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