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Drapan4
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posted November 24, 2006 03:04 PM |
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I scrolled this thread and i noticed a lot of people talking about the third mission(The Defence). So i want to add my comments too, if i may. THIS IS THE WORST MISSION I HAVE EVER PLAYED (so far)IN ALL THE HEROES GAMES. It is very time consuming, very repeatative and as a result very very BORING!!!!! Apart from the constant bugging from the purple player once a week or so, i have to deal with a hero form teal player who's got the Phantom forces spell and a luck rating of 6 (!). He applies phantom forces in his 80(!) Vampire lords and when they take their place in the field it seems impossible for me to hit em. I shooted them with 73 druid elders, 40 druids and 93 master hunters(with luck bonus) and (behold) nodody, i mean nodody got 'em!!!!They all missed!!! As a result when the teal hero played again, i had to deal with 240 vampire lords (he did the same trick again). And thats not all. With a luck rate of six, he was hitting me with luck bonus every time(!)with any untit. I am not saying that it should be a stroll in the park with any computer hero you encounter but this happened in week three or so...i mean come on...cut me some slack!
But thats not the only thing about this mission that i dont like. There is also a very big space wasted in the map which is a major drawback because i think that the best way to play this mission is to use some kind of blitzgriek tactics. So you have a lot of running to do (and keep a mind for the actual defence of your capital)
Anyway i could go on for a while but i have to reload this Sylvain-forseking mission!!!!
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Muril
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 26, 2006 08:40 PM |
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I scrolled this thread and i noticed a lot of people talking about the third mission(The Defence). So i want to add my comments too, if i may. THIS IS THE WORST MISSION I HAVE EVER PLAYED (so far)IN ALL THE HEROES GAMES. It is very time consuming, very repeatative and as a result very very BORING!!!!! (...)
I can only ask a question "what version" and obtain answer "other than 1.0". I remember mission 3 - there was no hero abusing phantom forces or so and he was actually not so strong and the luck number over 5... I already asked a question about it as i couldn't obtain higher number than 5 of morale nor luck so maybe it wasn't 6, it was glitch or... yes u got it - version other than 1.0.
And If u have problems there... than I'm sure you will truly swear when You will be at mission 5.
The main advantage as on all the missions except mission 1 should be that Findan is more powerfull than any opposing hero (in termst of statistics and abilities, not army).
Oh... unless you play on heroic man ^_~
@up - :|... this is some kind of mini-hill where the seer is, not the island - maybe load some screen or sth - it will be far better to analyze the problem
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Drapan4
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 29, 2006 07:41 PM |
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About mission 5...
I cleared all my area with Findan (took me about 3-4 weeks)and travelled to the two way portal only to find an army of about 12 Bone Dragons, around 40 Wights, 50-60 vampire lords, 160 spectres, 180 zombies, 1500 skeleton archers and a necro-hero who is constantly using phantom forces to his archers. I had an army of 6 Dragons, 30 -40 Upgraded Trents, 40-50 Silver unicorns, 70 or so Elder druids, around 150 -170 master hunters, 150-170 blade dancers and about the same number of pixies. I had my ass kicked, needles to say. I reloaded and managed to get the castle before he attacked me. I had my ass kicked needless to say, only this time with around 3k skeleton archers!!
I read in the first page the post by Nebuka that his rival fled the battle but that is not what is happening in my case.
Any ideas? Anyone?
The skill level is in ''normal''
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Muril
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 30, 2006 01:28 PM |
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Edited by Muril at 13:28, 30 Nov 2006.
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so i see u got through mission 3 so it wasn't so bad huh? ^_^.
As a matter of fact - the thing You now obviously know is to make Skelly Archers one of your favourite enemies. The other should be any undead you can starting from highest tier assuming you defeated them twice. Those master hunters and elder druid should already cut the skeleton archers at least by half at the beginning of the fight (if not more).
Try to rush the garrison and that hero ASAP. If the only thing you wait for are dragons - don't waste time on it, I managed to play with no dragons at all untill i got to the part of the map where Nicolai was walking around. What is a surprise for me is that this first necro (Raven?) didn't have liches in the army as you say - it simplifies it. I still don't remember her using PF but ok - if ballista luckily doesn't kill it - just cast the circle of winter (with master of ice u also delay the turn of the original skeleton archer stack) and get rid of the copies. In that time - kill it with master hunters and druids. Vampires can get fast to the shooters - try to stop them by treants. Spectres - if the number of skeleton archers (which should be all dead at that time anyway) is not so significant - cast spells - preferably circle of winter affecting other creature nearby - to get rid of them. Never get close to spectres with pixies/sprites - yes, spectres will not retaliate but when their turn comes they will all rise from the dead killing most of sprites.
Bone dragons in the number you met is a joke.
Wights - if you get rid of vampires engage them with treants and unicorns, if you didn't try unicorns or at least, place the creatures in the manner they block access to shooters.
I hope I helped a bit.
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Drapan4
Tavern Dweller
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posted November 30, 2006 05:38 PM |
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Thanx man! The thing is, i forgot to make skelly archers one of my favorite enemies. ( i done that for Leeches, vampire lords and zombies). There were Leeches in the army i just forgot to mention them. Anyway i still believe that this campaing could be a lot better designed. The Dungeon campaing (for me at least ) was much more fun. Anyway, thanx again for pointing out what was under my Elven nose 
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Drapan4
Tavern Dweller
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posted December 01, 2006 04:01 PM |
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I cannot believe this! As i was playing the 5th mission of the Sylvain campaign and made my moves and press enter to finish the turn, the game is stuck when the teal player moves. The progression line of the teal player is stuck in the 3/4 of the bar and...well...it remains there!! Does anyone know why is this happenig? Do i need a bigger and better memory card or something? How can i fix this? H E L P !!!!
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GenieLord
Honorable
Legendary Hero
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posted January 07, 2007 08:17 PM |
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Hello everyone,
Can anyone send me some screenshots with the exact placement of shores on this map. I'm stuck on this mission, and I don't see any possible route to the central island.
Thank you.
I can't send you the maps (I don't have) but I can give you an useful tip:
Level up yourself, but don't get risk for the artifact.
They won't continue with you to the next mission, as they suppose to.
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feelgood
Tavern Dweller
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posted January 25, 2007 05:35 PM |
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I got no problem at all in this map - refugees. The necros attacked me very late and the captured max 2 garrisons. Finally, Biara will come for the final battle - and this is on heroic. The only problem is to learn as much as possible.
The only way I think for you is to get whatever you can first and the prepare yourself near the garrison when the necromancers are about to attack. Then capture it back. You will lose only if more than 2 garrisons are captured.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted March 01, 2007 10:47 AM |
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Am I the only one who experienced ballancing problems in the 5th campaign? Like, final Hero Necromancer army: 12.000 Skeleton Warriors, 1100 Spectres, 400 Vampire Lords, 250 Archliches, 90 Wraiths and 100 Spectral Dragons. And of course, Expert Mass Slow, Expert Wasp Swarm and Phantom Forces. 
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DeathIncarnate
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posted March 04, 2007 02:21 AM |
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Please don't tell me...
i have been reading this quite a bit because right now I am stuck on mission 5. It seems nearly impossible for me to do with findan. I have tried to rush and attack at week 2-3, but with only like 7 drags, 28 druids, 50 master hunters, 15 treants, and 15 uni's. This is nothing compared to the 11 drags, 15 wraiths, 600 skeli's, 100 zombs, 20 lich, and 50-60 ghosts of the first enemy hero. I ofcourse get slaughtered. And after being informed by the posts here I'm begining to think it has A LOT to do with the crappy skills i got for Findan,
1. Avenger (of course)
2. Logistics (large maps and scouting)
3. Attack (Tactics, archery, battle frenzy)
4. Luck (Soldiers Luck, Magic resistance, Elven Luck)
5. Destructive ( Master ice and fire, Mana burst)
6. Enlightment (last minute addition, forced to get)
Besides a few, from what I've heard, that line up sucks. So can someone give me some pointers to how to beat the last mission, or should I replay the ENTIRE DANG thing? (Please don't say number 2, some of these levels were so annoying...)
P.S. I always hated these D*** elves...
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DeathIncarnate
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 04, 2007 02:55 AM |
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Ok just now I have been able to turn the tides of battle and completely anihilate the first hero (thanks to Ring of Speed,20% increase to initiative, and Helm of the Lion,plus 2 morale creating a total 4 moral for me which combined with my 5 luck made it much easier). Turns out all I needed was that extra jump on the enemy. But still worried about Nicolai and his apparent 100 or more drags.
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fishjie
Adventuring Hero
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posted March 07, 2007 01:46 AM |
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like i posted earlier, the trick is to hire a necro of ure own, and go creeping on the underground. you can easily outmatch even the most powerful of their armies.
they had 11k skeleton archers? i had like 18k.
and sac all ure gold dragons for shadow dragons, all ure unicorns for wraiths, etc....
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Meadey
Hired Hero
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posted May 28, 2007 05:00 PM |
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Halle f**king lujah ! I finally got through this very hard campaign . Many thanks to the postings on here and Celestial . I've been stuck on the Nicolai scenario for weeks and eventually the AI must have got sick and Nicolai didn't have as many turns for his damned Phantom Forces. Onwards and upwards !!
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fishjie
Adventuring Hero
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posted July 16, 2007 09:03 PM |
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do you immediately capture the garrison back the turn after you lose it? because that's what you need to do....
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Bombur
Known Hero
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posted July 26, 2007 11:44 AM |
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On the 5th mission i say take your time(this was on hard),take the mines with those other heroes by using summon elementals,do the same with the garrison.Go through the portal with Findan,defeat the first necro hero(Raven?),then go underground,capture all his towns and artifacts(there is a bow that negates range penalty).When you have all those necro towns and a few weeks pass,recruit all necro units you can afford,but money will be a problem.There is another portal to the north east of the underground guarded by spectral dragons,but not sure.Go through it and capture the nearest necro town,Keep taunting the necro heroes,including Nicolai.There is just one major army,that just one hero has and in my case included 50 spectral dragons,80+wraiths,11k skellies,andswarm of vampires.Kepp saving through out the game.When you get near the portal in the NE corner of the undergroung cast summon creatures cause the closest towns are your two sylvan towns.Then go through the portal.You should see a mana fountain nearby.I had Kaspar on my tracks with the major army.I had about 20 emerald dragons,100+ancient treants,Zounds of hunters,swarm of wardancers,and sprites,250 druids,200 unicorns.Because I saved before I tried to see numerous possibilities that I had.I went for another Necro town to the south west and it was guarded by fire elementals,and some undead units.But the hero who guarded it was Nicolai.I defeated him and won the mission with hunters shooting his body.
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alcibiades
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
of Gold Dragons
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posted July 26, 2007 12:25 PM |
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There is just one major army,that just one hero has and in my case included 50 spectral dragons,80+wraiths,11k skellies,andswarm of vampires. (...) I had Kaspar on my tracks with the major army. (...) I went for another Necro town to the south west and it was guarded by fire elementals,and some undead units. But the hero who guarded it was Nicolai.
This strategy only worked because you were lucky that the AI didn't collect the forces on Nicolai. When I played the map, Nicolai had the army (11K Skele Archers + others like you describe), and there was no possible way to defeat him at level 30 with expert Summoning Magic. Phantom Forces on Skeles that act immediately after hero turn simply makes it impossible.
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Bombur
Known Hero
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posted July 26, 2007 03:39 PM |
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Sometimes the AI is a bit stupid.I agree I couldn't defeat those necro troops on Nicolai,and I think not even on Kaspar
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Trelew
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posted July 30, 2007 05:32 AM |
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MISSION 5 QUESTION
Trying to find where the Tears are buried. The Prima Guide says that it's around the Necro city in the North but the puzzle map comes up zip on anything that looks like it. The image I get is two treasure chests and mercury unit sitting in a swamp with a sawmill off to the right, but I haven't been able to find anything looking like it anywhere. Needless to say, puzzle maps have been the bane of my HOMMV experience. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted July 30, 2007 08:53 AM |
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mission 5 was by far the hardest one from the game. In the 3 shot I killed nicolai, but I reduced the game difficulty to easy. At normal he attacked me with 170 spectral dragons. How can I beat that army? Plus one of my friends met nicolai when he had 20000 dragons!!!!!! for real. It is not that he waited that much time, probably a bug. A huge bug . By the way, when you bring back the artifacts, the seer gives you 5 phoenixes, or something like that. Do I have to keep them in my army while fighting nicolai?
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Daystar
Honorable
Legendary Hero
Back from the Dead
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posted August 07, 2007 10:21 PM |
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How are you building up your castle? Focus on building up creature dwellings, and try to get Pixies, Hunters, Druids, Unis, and Green Dragons, if the enemy has a lot of succubi, but if they have a lot of Ceberi (or hell hounds) focus on Pixies, War Dancers, Hunters, Druids, Unis and Treants. Use the first group to take the offensive, and wipe out the Succubi or your low level units will be cannon fodder. Use the second tactic to defend your shooters, and wasp swarm the Demons with Pixies, then use either Stone Spikes or Lightning bolt to take out any ranged units, and shooters to keep your defenders (Unis, Treants, and War Dancers) from dying off. Fill any vacant holes with Pixies.
Also, if the demon army is too large, type
`@Giveherocreatures; ("Heam", CREATURE_GREEN_DRAGON, 42)
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