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Thread: Best faction in the game (post TotE) This thread is 19 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 · «PREV / NEXT»
roy-algriffin
roy-algriffin


Supreme Hero
Chocolate ice cream zealot
posted October 30, 2007 10:14 PM

id say strongold, It has some neat tricks when used properly
Sure its not going to dominate . But the only factions that dominate are those that are led by people who are good at them anyway or that the faction is really good at killing the other one.
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kraken
kraken


Famous Hero
I just love being elemental
posted October 30, 2007 10:47 PM

dudes giant one eyed monsters of course I voted for the faction of might;ORCS!!!
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sdfx
sdfx


Famous Hero
posted October 30, 2007 11:02 PM

Any map can be changed so that X faction > Y faction but generally it's academy that is "out of control" most of the time.

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Mytical
Mytical


Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted October 31, 2007 05:24 AM
Edited by Mytical at 05:27, 31 Oct 2007.

When I play necro (which I admit is more now that ToTE is out hehe), it seems to follow a general patern.

Vampire Lords against anything other then other Necros which is Vampire Princes.  The exceptions to this 'rule' is a couple of things.

1st- High luck + Soldiers Luck.  Then Princes can be of more use against more faction.

High Numbers of Vampires + the Necromancer that grants bonuses to vampires.  And if somehow you can combine this with number 1, even better.  The higher the number, the better chance of activating the special (I believe).

Arcane Armor.  Now I know what you are thinking, won't this help both equally?  No.  Since Princes get retaliated against, it actually does double duty for them.  Once when they are attacked, and once when the are retaliated against.


No retaliate is an amazing special that requires a lot to overcome.  It's basically two attacks to one in a one on one fight.  Which means that the additional hitpoints of the Princes is not really that great.  Now if you have only vampires in your army for some reason go with the Princes by all means.  Also, when facing large ammount of any creature that has unlimited retaliation or no retaliation, for the love of sanity choose Lords.  There special negates the first and balances the second.

Just my 2 copper worth on the subject.  I know I know OT though.  I am sort of hoping that my once favorite Academy (which really got messed over with original h5 and HoF) is back on track .
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unixmage
unixmage


Known Hero
Demon Slayer
posted October 31, 2007 10:07 AM

Quote:
Vampire Lords against anything other then other Necros which is Vampire Princes.


Don't you mean Vampire princes against everything except vs necros, in that case torpor doesn't work. Anyway that's what the alternatives are for. Pick, depending on situation. Both types are good candidates for phantom forces, you either get a chance to torpor + eliminate target's retaliation so your real prince can attack without worry, or you get a free strike until the enemy waste an action destroying the phantom unit.

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Duncan
Duncan


Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
posted October 31, 2007 11:07 AM

How weird. Some months ago people still whining about Fortress being imba, runes are damn cheap etc. Now it doesn't get that many votes.

Anyway I'm not surprised seeing Necro on top of the list, but Academy being at the bottom?? *LOL*  And yes, in general the map will determine who's the best.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


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Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 31, 2007 11:19 AM

Academy.

Read posts from people that actually know something about competitive battling (like ToHers for example) and you will know why.

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Minion
Minion


Legendary Hero
posted October 31, 2007 12:24 PM

Is this thread about my favorite faction (personal best) or the most "powerful" faction?

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Warlore
Warlore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted October 31, 2007 12:41 PM
Edited by Warlore at 13:50, 31 Oct 2007.

HAVEN AND STRONGHOLD both have great damage dealers,i could voted dungeon,if reddie dragon can active his/hers incinerate everywhere in battle,not only nearby of enemy
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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 31, 2007 01:53 PM

WarLore, I hope that you realize that competitive playing has nothing to do with endgame damage dealers?

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mercedes_j_h
mercedes_j_h


Hired Hero
The fire is strong!
posted October 31, 2007 02:09 PM
Edited by mercedes_j_h at 14:11, 31 Oct 2007.

Academy is one of the best team because if you are in fight and have 1K thier 1, 900 thier 2, 800 thier 3, 700 thier 4, 600, thier 5,500 thier 6 and 400 thier 7 and  the fight is between Academy and Dungeon and you have alternate upgrade the Storm Titans kill the red dragon in about 4 turns because teh Storm Titans is a Shooter and Red dragons is a Meele so it will only be about 200 Dragon when the Dragon reach the Storm Titans. And Dungeons Alternate upgrade have no Shooters only one Caster that can't cast any damage spell.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 31, 2007 02:26 PM

ummm.. what?

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unixmage
unixmage


Known Hero
Demon Slayer
posted October 31, 2007 02:46 PM
Edited by unixmage at 14:47, 31 Oct 2007.

Name one faction that can win the following battle with such lesser numbers and remain intact. Oh and all the vampire princes survived ...


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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 31, 2007 03:55 PM

Unixmage: any hero that can cast frenzy or puppet master, I believe.

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elmek
elmek


Adventuring Hero
posted October 31, 2007 03:55 PM
Edited by alcibiades at 16:37, 31 Oct 2007.

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Name one faction that can win the following battle with such lesser numbers and remain intact. Oh and all the vampire princes survived ...

for me it looks like that frenzy/PM won that battle Not necropolis.

EDIT: Beaten by doomforge...

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Nirual
Nirual


Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
posted October 31, 2007 04:00 PM

Stronghold fails because they are pretty helpless against Dark Magic. Shatter Dark helps to some degree (especially notable on Frenzy and PM), but no cleansing hurts a lot.
Only one shooter at tier 2 and one fairly frail flyer also makes them struggle more than most at sieges.

Which btw is in my opinion one of the strong points for necropolis. 2 shooters (assuming skeleton archers), 2 flyers and a teleporting unit, plus Banshees that can potentially deal some damage through the walls.
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Doomforge
Doomforge


Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
posted October 31, 2007 04:03 PM

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Stronghold fails because they are pretty helpless against Dark Magic. Shatter Dark helps to some degree (especially notable on Frenzy and PM), but no cleansing hurts a lot.
Only one shooter at tier 2 and one fairly frail flyer also makes them struggle more than most at sieges.


Exactly my thoughts. Factions that are helpless vs. dark magic can't really be called the "strongest". Sure, you can struggle a bit, maybe even defeat a darkmagic-orientated player with correct feats and arties, but usually your creatures will be killing each other and your sword will be used against you.

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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted October 31, 2007 04:16 PM
Edited by WarLore at 16:22, 31 Oct 2007.

every faction falls against frenzy.what can you when most likely you do frenzy against creatures which turn is after your hero
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WarLore
WarLore


Famous Hero
servant of urgash
posted October 31, 2007 04:17 PM
Edited by WarLore at 16:20, 31 Oct 2007.

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WarLore, I hope that you realize that competitive playing has nothing to do with endgame damage dealers?


yep,i know. but using frenzy is pretty "loser" tactic.Really.
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Nirual
Nirual


Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
posted October 31, 2007 04:33 PM

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every faction falls against frenzy.what can you when most likely you do frenzy against creatures which turn is after your hero


Necropolis doesn't. Why? They are IMMUNE. And not every faction is instantly screwed when facing a Dark Magic user, be it because the hero focuses on Destructive/Dark/Summoning Magic, or because one turned stack won't hurt them as much. Haven for instance can counter with Champions, both immune to frenzy and able to cure other stacks of it. Others could use Teleport (or even Teleport Assault) to move the frenzied stack near the enemy stacks, making it more likely to attack them than his allies (with more damage, too).
Stronghold can only rely on smart unit movement to minimize the impact of Frenzy, or the right artifact (Shield of the Dwarven Kings) if they are lucky.

On a side note, Shatter Dark does nothing against the Seduce ability. Yay.
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