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Thread: Best faction in the game (post TotE) This thread is 19 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 · «PREV / NEXT»
dschingi
dschingi


Famous Hero
the guy with the dragon golem
posted November 01, 2007 10:15 PM

voted Fortress mostly because of the runes, but maybe I'll change my mind after playing more. No idea about the orcs yet.

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Carcity
Carcity


Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
posted November 02, 2007 08:19 AM

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Name one faction that can win the following battle with such lesser numbers and remain intact. Oh and all the vampire princes survived ...


I can't name another but i wonder did you use decay or mass decay on this battle or did you only use frenzy and puppet master?
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Nirual
Nirual


Famous Hero
Imbued Ballista
posted November 02, 2007 08:48 AM

Why the hell would he rely on decay of all the other dark magic spells? Confusion and Slow are much more important. Or Sorrow.
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unixmage
unixmage


Known Hero
Demon Slayer
posted November 02, 2007 03:39 PM

Quote:
Quote:
Name one faction that can win the following battle with such lesser numbers and remain intact. Oh and all the vampire princes survived ...


I can't name another but i wonder did you use decay or mass decay on this battle or did you only use frenzy and puppet master?


I used banshee howl, {frenzy, pupper master} (with my bad luck for getting bad morale when they were and attacking me when the spell wore off), mass vunerability, non-mass slow, mass suffering, lots of raise dead and of course mark of the necromancer. The spectral dragon casting sorrow and the existance of plague zombies allowed me to keep the blood ogres (which could obliterate any of my stacks in one attack) in a bad morale state (but this didn't always work).
I just never ran out of mana so stronghold could never kill all my stacks in time.

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HartZa
HartZa


Known Hero
watchout graveyards!
posted November 02, 2007 05:19 PM

Quote:
Sorry if this is a little bit off topic, but in late games, Haven vs Necro, which faction do you think has an edge over the other? Please give me your reasoning. Thanks.


Iīm going to offtopic to. Haven is stronger usually but necro with right skills(and some troops left after first round) may have a chance. High level Zoltan with next skills:
Swith mind, Counterspell, power of endurance, stand your ground and lots of dark magic.
Winning a battle depends a lots of does Necromancers hero turn come before or after Havenīs markmans, paladins and hero. Just try to survive until cleaning is blocked.
Havenīs stradegy against necro is a BIT easier. Left click on necros troops and cleanse dark magics away.

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Cleave
Cleave


Promising
Famous Hero
Raging Blood
posted November 05, 2007 01:30 PM

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IMO is best faction Academy, because of MotW, mini-artifacts and useful counter-upgrades. But still, this faction is so ugly, that Iīm not able to play them for a longer period of time, so I stick with Dwarves.


I'm not sure that the Academy is the "best" but IMO it's real ugly. As powerful as the titans and the artefacts may be I just can't (and won't) play them. They really messed things up with the design of the Academy, the gremlins are preposterous, the gargoyles are incredibly chunky and silly looking, the djinns are not the worse but they look as if they have no heads and last but not least the titans look as if they just came out of a chippendales contest with their boxers and feathers... Sorry but I'll stick to my executionners thank you very much.

Haven vs Necro is hard on the necro late in the game. It's not that easy to stop a large stack of champions. Tier 7 creatures of the Necropolis are numerous but they are much weaker.

Before TotE you could get a very large number of ghosts thanks to haunted mines, now it's rather difficult (and you'd waste one ability on Leadershp). A very large stack of ghosts can be a real pain if the enemy can't cast destructive spells.

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cicakkia
cicakkia

Tavern Dweller
posted November 05, 2007 02:30 PM

Dungeon. Cause Black Dragon always rules

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ismail222
ismail222


Known Hero
The Cataclysm
posted November 05, 2007 02:33 PM

sorry to tell ya that,but black dragons are weaker than the crystal,magma dragons and they're nothing compared to the cyclops with high blood rage points
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unixmage
unixmage


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Demon Slayer
posted November 05, 2007 04:46 PM

But you can puppet master a cyclops.

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ChaosDragon
ChaosDragon


Famous Hero
posted November 05, 2007 04:49 PM

dungeon, i love their stalkers

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ismail222
ismail222


Known Hero
The Cataclysm
posted November 05, 2007 06:52 PM
Edited by ismail222 at 18:58, 05 Nov 2007.

Quote:
dungeon, i love their stalkers


who doesn't...
and it makes ai toatly useless they should improve ai's ability to search for stalekrs
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Deceving,Ppl lying,Ppl dying
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ismail222
ismail222


Known Hero
The Cataclysm
posted November 05, 2007 06:56 PM
Edited by ismail222 at 18:57, 05 Nov 2007.

Quote:
But you can puppet master a cyclops.


okie,how about magmas?xD and crystals will prolly absloutely do the dmg b4 ur hero can cast,and then his hero will prolly remove it with cleansing ^_^

also,i really do agree that orcs weakest point is spells lol when they should be anti magic,but with magic resistance,and barbarian's luck u do have a good chance to resist it,not mentioning arties ^_^
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Deceving,Ppl lying,Ppl dying
One Word : Life

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Cleave
Cleave


Promising
Famous Hero
Raging Blood
posted November 05, 2007 07:20 PM

Don't forget might over magic and shatter dark. Taking control is one thing but it won't last that long. Still it hurts while it lasts. Frenzy will last for one action and with expert shatter dark, puppet master can't be cast on cyclops (tier 7 creatures).

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ismail222
ismail222


Known Hero
The Cataclysm
posted November 05, 2007 07:31 PM

which makes cyclops uncontrolable killing machines ^_^
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Deceving,Ppl lying,Ppl dying
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Cleave
Cleave


Promising
Famous Hero
Raging Blood
posted November 05, 2007 07:49 PM

In a big fight you should always try and use a large stack of goblin witch doctors to mess with the enemy hero's spellcasting. Count at the very least 600 goblins for a level 20 hero (850 to be on the safe side, more and the caster will really be in trouble).

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phoenixreborn
phoenixreborn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Unicorn
posted November 05, 2007 10:13 PM

Quote:
Poll Results:
7 votes (15%)
Haven

2 votes (4%)
Inferno

9 votes (19%)
Necropolis

7 votes (15%)
Academy

3 votes (6%)
Sylvan

8 votes (17%)
Dungeon

6 votes (13%)
Fortress

6 votes (13%)
Stronghold


These are the current results.  Very balanced numbers with Sylvan and Inferno having fewer than everyone else.  For my money Inferno is the weakest, but it's tough ot conclude the strongest.

For those who voted Inferno, why?  I know I suck at creeping with them.  I've been able to give some ToH opponents a decent match, but I haven't won with inferno.

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unixmage
unixmage


Known Hero
Demon Slayer
posted November 05, 2007 11:06 PM

The only times I've had relative success with Inferno is by using tactics and just charging in. Gating never seems to do enough good unless you have all the different skills that increase the numbers, make it faster etc (which has never happened for me).

But that's just me. Demon slaying is my specialty.

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kraken
kraken


Famous Hero
I just love being elemental
posted November 05, 2007 11:28 PM

Orcs are the best faction ever,then dwarves,then undead,then elves,then dark elves,then wizards,then demons,then humans



Orcs forever dudes
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Duncan
Duncan


Famous Hero
The Pathfinder
posted November 06, 2007 09:06 AM

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For those who voted Inferno, why?


Maybe they were referring to Deleb?
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ChaosDragon
ChaosDragon


Famous Hero
posted November 06, 2007 10:06 AM

No, who need deleb

i'm sure, you are not inferno fans

speaking of creeping, almost all inferno heroes can creep with only vermin and horned grunt, but it depends on the early build of your main heroes, here my list: marbas with vitality and evasion, nebiros with battlefrenzy is enough (power of speed also a very good addition), nymus without anything is already good (for creeping you'll find that his luck is a good boost), grok (no comment)

as for jezebeth and alastor, i'm still trying to figure out their perks



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