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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted January 13, 2009 11:01 AM
Edited by Ecoris at 11:02, 13 Jan 2009.

Elves in extended is a combo deck, not a control deck. Going aggro with the cheap critters is a secondary (but considerable) game plan. In some matchups (especially the mirror I guess) the will bring in Jittes (some have them main).
Edit: I have seen lists with a single Elvish Champion in the sideboard; it can be fetched with Chord of Calling if they need it.
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Vidoja
Vidoja


Bad-mannered
Known Hero
Checker for Heroes Competiton
posted January 13, 2009 02:20 PM

Yes, of course, it is a combo deck. But, if he hasn't got any Grapeshots after a few Glimpses and a million played spells, a player will attack (yes, it is secondary).
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Aleksandr
Aleksandr


Hired Hero
posted January 15, 2009 08:35 AM
Edited by Aleksandr at 08:36, 15 Jan 2009.

Legacy anyone?
Me be great fan of it, namely [url=http://www.cmus.cz/dnn/MagictheGatheringCMUScz/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/602/Faerie-Stompy.aspx]Faerie Stompy[/url]
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Disturbed-Gnu
Disturbed-Gnu


Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
posted January 15, 2009 04:38 PM

At last! They have added Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker to the conflux list!
He's good, but too expensive (Many times you don't even need more than 5 lands to win a game with the right hand)

Anyway:
Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker
+3: Destroy target noncreature permanent.
-2: Gain control of target creature.
-9: Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker deals 7 damage to target player. That player discards seven cards, then sacrifices seven permanents.

And btw, what is your favorite Planeswalker without Nicol Bolas.?

Mine is Lilianne Vess

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted January 15, 2009 10:07 PM

I'm still waiting for Gwafha Hazid before I say my favorite, but right now, its Ajani Goldmane.

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Disturbed-Gnu
Disturbed-Gnu


Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
posted January 21, 2009 08:06 PM

Errhh, how do you get rid of Progenitus? (Conflux)...


And do you guys know the difrence between a Instant and an Interupt?
If there is any difrence ofcourse?

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted January 21, 2009 10:38 PM

You can stop Progenitus by forcing it to become subject to state-based effects, such as illegal moves or illegal targeting. If Progentius is the only remaining card in play, Cruel Edict makes the player sacrifice it, since the oracle text is "Target player sacrifices a creature," things like that. Its even a bigger pain in the arse to kill than Darksteel Colossus.

And Interrupt is an obsolete term used to entitle the object to be played in response to something else. All cards with the type "Interrupt" was replaced by Instant for better clarity.

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Mamgaeater
Mamgaeater


Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted January 22, 2009 02:15 AM
Edited by Mamgaeater at 02:19, 22 Jan 2009.

Progenitus is my new favorite card... playing it will be tough but protection from everything? sweet... and its my favorite creature type too.
although i won't be able to get him at the prerelease/launch party as i cannot go to one .
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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted January 22, 2009 02:42 AM

As if an answer to prayer, here's the excerpt from the Official Progenitus Spoiler!!

Quote:

"Protection from everything" means the following:

- Progenitus can't be blocked.
Progenitus can't be enchanted or equipped.
Progenitus can't be the target of spells or abilities.
All damage that would be dealt to Progenitus is prevented.

Progenitus can still be affected by effects that don't target it or deal damage to it (such as Wrath of God).



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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted January 22, 2009 11:24 AM

There are many ways to deal with Progenitus.
You can counter it when it is played.
It dies to Wrath of God, Damnation and similar "destroy all" effects.
You can play Runed Halo naming Progenitus.
Moat and similar cards will protect you.
You can use cards that prevent combat damage to buy yourself more time.
...
etc.
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Disturbed-Gnu
Disturbed-Gnu


Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
posted January 22, 2009 04:12 PM

Aaahh, i thought that protection from everything meant from all colours, artifacts and abilities
But now that you told me this, i don't think he is so tough anymore.


And a question again:
My brother says that if a creature has shroud it is protected against wither, and such abilities!
Is that true?

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Ecoris
Ecoris


Promising
Supreme Hero
posted January 22, 2009 09:39 PM
Edited by Ecoris at 21:39, 22 Jan 2009.

Quote:
Aaahh, i thought that protection from everything meant from all colours, artifacts and abilities
It does. And even more. But e.g. a creature with protection from white is not protected from Wrath of God. Protection only has the four effects sith_of_ziost mentioned.
Quote:
And a question again:
My brother says that if a creature has shroud it is protected against wither, and such abilities!
Is that true?
No. Shroud only means the creature can't be the target of spells or abilities. Here is a complete list of such spells and abilities:
* Spells/abilities that explicitly use the word "target" (or in some cases "targets").
* Auras, while they are on the stack, target the creature they are going to enchant.
* The "Equip" (and the Fortify) abilities.

Whither just modifies how the source with wither deals damage to creatures.

If you have rules questions for Magic you would get faster and better responses at Wizard's official site:
Rules Q&A Forum
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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted January 23, 2009 01:37 AM

Btw, Progenitus is one creature: you can destroy its controller before it even becomes a threat. I'm sure numerous counters to Progenitus will be formed in great supply.

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Mamgaeater
Mamgaeater


Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted January 24, 2009 12:13 AM

would suspending it be viable with jhora of the ghitu?
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Lord_Woock
Lord_Woock


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Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
posted January 24, 2009 12:31 AM

Since you say "viable", I assume you mean competitive formats.

The smallest where both will be legal is Extended.

Turn three Jhoira, turn four suspend Progenitus, wait four more turns for Progenitus to hit. Seems to be too little gain for such a long wait. If you're playing a deck capable of surviving so long and then defending Progenitus from Wraths, you'd likely prefer a more easily played finisher, maybe one that didn't rely on also having another creature.
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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted January 24, 2009 12:54 AM

Getting out a turn 5 Progenitus is much better than seven, using Dramatic Entrance. Since when Progenitus is not in play he is just a card not a creature, his protection does not apply.

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted January 25, 2009 02:23 AM
Edited by sith_of_ziost at 18:23, 25 Jan 2009.

Latest Mentionables
Courtesy of the folks over at MTGSalvation! MTGS

Font of Mythos
CCM = 4
Artifact
"At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player draws an additional two cards." (Rare)

Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer
Cost = 1WU, 2/2
Legendary Creature - Human Rogue
"{W}{U}, {T}: Put a bribery counter on target creature you don't control. Its controller draws a card.

Creatures with bribery counters on them can't attack or block." (Rare)

Thornling
Cost = 3GG, 4/4
Creature - Elemental Shapeshifter

"{G}:Thornling gains haste until end of turn.
{G}:Thornling gains trample until end of turn.
{G}:Thornling is indestructible until end of turn.
{1}:Thornling gets +1/-1 until end of turn.
{1}:Thornling gets -1/+1 until end of turn." (Mythic)

Rakka Mar
Cost = 2RR, 2/2
Legendary Creature - Human Shaman
"Haste
{R},{T}: Put a 3/1 red Elemental creature token with haste into play." (Rare)

Telemin Performance
Cost = 3UU
Sorcery
"Target opponent reveals cards from the top of his or her library until a creature card is revealed. Put all noncreature cards revealed this way into that player's graveyard, then put the creature card into play under your control." (Rare)

Inkwell Leviathan
Cost = 7UU, 7/11
Artifact Creature - Leviathan
"Islandwalk, trample, shroud" (Rare)

Mirror Sigil Sargeant


Mark of Asylum
Cost - 1W
Enchantment
"Prevent all noncombat damage that would be dealt to creatures you control." (Rare)

EDIT MAJOR - Over the course of the last 9 hours, MTGSalvation finished the spoiler for Conflux, a full week and a half before prerelease!!

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Disturbed-Gnu
Disturbed-Gnu


Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
posted January 27, 2009 08:37 PM

I'm quite disapointet about the planeswalkers now! It's my favorite kind of cards. And the only new one is Nicol Bolas!

But i specially like the new kinds of land.

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sith_of_ziost
sith_of_ziost


Promising
Supreme Hero
Scouting the Multiverse
posted January 27, 2009 09:34 PM

On WotC's spoiler, the Exotic Orchard was spoiled, and its a Bant land filled with Etherium trees, so I'm just assuming that the other four will be one Shard influnced by another, like Rupture Spire is Grixis on Jund.

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Disturbed-Gnu
Disturbed-Gnu


Supreme Hero
Pro Bacon Vodka Brewer
posted January 29, 2009 04:15 PM

somebody shoot me! i have just spent 60,20$ on 60 cards for mig standard allowed, multicolour deck..

shoot me!

it's waste of money!, but still, i like my deck.

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