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mamgaeater
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posted February 17, 2009 06:54 PM |
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If a creature has two tap abilities, does both trigger when the creature is tapped? (example: a creature "Morslhoarder" with Sinking Feeling + Power of Fire! Is Morslhoarder able to (if tapped) get a -1/-1 counter on him, and then tap him for removing that counter to get mana + dealing one damage) Or do i have to choose which of the tap abilities i whant to trigger?
I know i ask a lot questions, but i feel like this is the place to ask.. You always answer me, and that helps a lot..
no, the tapping is a cost. If it were to trigger upon tapping it would appear like this " Whenever [cardname] becomes tapped, [effect]"
Much like you can't use 1 green mana to pay for more than one card,
you cannot use a single tapping to pay for more than one ability.
although your situation differs as rmoving the counter is a cost.
oh yeah and the chances of getting a mythic rare in conflux is still 12.5%... no matter how many cards are in it. the chances to get an individual mythic rare however... the only tap ability he has is power of fires.
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RedSoxFan3
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posted February 17, 2009 07:20 PM |
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Does anyone here do much draft for MTG? I'm wondering if anyone knows some good strats for Shards Shards Conflux draft.
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mamgaeater
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posted February 17, 2009 07:26 PM |
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i wish i could draft well...
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sith_of_ziost
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posted February 17, 2009 10:04 PM |
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What you've discovered is a controllable infinite loop. Tapping the Morselhoarder to Power of Fire, removing the counter and gaining a mana which can then be shoved into sinking feeling, restoring the just spent counter, and lather, rinse, repeat.
Well, the best thing to do is to look at the pack and start out with some cards that can be drafted around in different ways, so universal cards are best. Or you could chance it and take a gold card and hope more come around, otherwise your in a pickle. I generally would hold my Countermage first, because I'm a blue duelist and every deck i have has countermagic in it. Or if you see removal or Growth cards, take those. Just go with what you think you can build around on a whim.
For Shards-Shards-Conflux, I'd say prepare for Domain decks, so three color decks work well. Also, there's some nice room for the new Shard 'heroes' (Charnelhoards, Tyrants, Hydra)...I guess its just like any other draft: know your onion.
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 18, 2009 11:12 PM |
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Apparently a popular strategy for AAC draft is "pick the strongest card in each pack regardless of color", because the fixing in Conflux is downright ridiculous.
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mamgaeater
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posted February 18, 2009 11:25 PM |
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Apparently a popular strategy for AAC draft is "pick the strongest card in each pack regardless of color", because the fixing in Conflux is downright ridiculous.
does it work well?
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sith_of_ziost
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posted February 18, 2009 11:55 PM |
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Yeah, what with Exploding Borders, Kaleidostone, Armillary Sphere, and Shard Convergence, that would seem pretty cool. But that's just boring, and its annoying to everyone else. But, hey. Whatever gives buoyancy to your nautical craft.
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted February 19, 2009 05:42 PM |
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Can someone tell me the best green-card standard allowed combo you know.?
And after that tell me the best multi-colour standard allowed combo you now.?
I really could use some surprises in my Multi colour deck!
And maybe a awesome green card combo in my elf deck!!
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 19, 2009 06:18 PM |
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There are no viable combo decks in Standard right now.
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Ecoris
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posted February 19, 2009 08:52 PM |
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Uri Peleg played an elf deck with elements of the extended elfball deck: at the bottom.
Dramatic Entrance -> Progenitus or some other fat can be called a green combo.
But none of these decks/ideas are strong.
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sith_of_ziost
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posted February 20, 2009 12:03 AM |
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I don't remember, but there's a standard combod that combines Flourshing Defenses with some elf to go Infinite Tokens, but I don't rememeber what it is  . Helpful...
There's a Devoted Druid combo somewhere out there...
Gilt-Leaf Archdruid plus Mirrorweave -OR- Mirror Entity placed through some means...then use Prismatic Omen for a Uber-Dauntless Dourbark. Prismatic Omen can be other things too, just as long as the Siezed lands are forests. Maybe a Molimo too.
Noticed that combo had a lot of M's.
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted February 20, 2009 02:48 PM |
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Hmm, there's not really anny usefull combos in standard 
But sith# That infinite token sounds like something i could use! But yes, really helpfull I'll search for it.
((Maybe it has something to do with the Morselhoarder))
Thanks anyway
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mamgaeater
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posted February 20, 2009 02:55 PM |
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Hmm, there's not really anny usefull combos in standard
But sith# That infinite token sounds like something i could use! But yes, really helpfull I'll search for it.
((Maybe it has something to do with the Morselhoarder))
Thanks anyway
 + + =infinite tokens.
in fact just about anything that give s a creature a tap ability combos with morselhoarder
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted February 20, 2009 03:13 PM |
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Yes i know! but the åroblem is that i really whanted it to my elf deck!, but there is a blue card! :S
Great combo by the way! I didn't even think of prescense of gond heh..
But i could solve the problem with the blue card, by replacing som basic lands with some lands that is able to produce both green and blue mana! or any colour like Rupture Spire..
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Ecoris
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posted February 20, 2009 06:48 PM |
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Yes i know! but the åroblem is that i really whanted it to my elf deck!, but there is a blue card! :S
Great combo by the way! I didn't even think of prescense of gond heh..
But i could solve the problem with the blue card, by replacing som basic lands with some lands that is able to produce both green and blue mana! or any colour like Rupture Spire..
Standard has all the mana fixing you need.
Devoted Druid + Quillspike is a nearly viable combo. Soul's Fire, Rite of Consumption or the fear-mode of Profane Command are the typical win-cons once you have a 10000/10000 creature. If you want to stay monogreen you could also just find a way to give it trample.
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sith_of_ziost
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posted February 20, 2009 10:07 PM |
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AHHH! I remembered the combo with Flourishing Defenses!
 plus plus 
Infinite Tokens and good for Mono Green!
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Lord_Woock
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posted February 20, 2009 10:09 PM |
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19 mana + three cards, two of them creatures does not a good combo make. I guess it could be worth trying for kicks in a multiplayer game in the right playgroup, but other than that, no.
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted February 20, 2009 10:34 PM |
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Standard has all the mana fixing you need.
Devoted Druid + Quillspike is a nearly viable combo. Soul's Fire, Rite of Consumption or the fear-mode of Profane Command are the typical win-cons once you have a 10000/10000 creature. If you want to stay monogreen you could also just find a way to give it trample.
Uuhh, i alreadu own two devoted druids, and one tower above (To give it trample).. Now i just need the Quillspike!
That's awesome! Thanks
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sith_of_ziost
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posted February 20, 2009 10:46 PM |
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@Woock - Then what defines a good combo? In my play experience, versatile combos work best when defined by their constitunets. Grim Poppets are solid bodies that can deal with the nonexistent removal from black, and are good in the ways of size by themselves. Further, mana costs don't directly become the deciding factor in my views. Some say a Sigil of the Empty Throne is useless at five mana, but in late game, mana doesn't matter to me. That long of a duel, you find that mana comes fast.
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Disturbed-Gnu
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posted February 20, 2009 11:03 PM |
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Great combos mana cost is very important!
My experience is, that if you don't come up with something good as fast as possible, you lose!
Either you lose all cards in your library by black/blue combo cards. Or lose all your life by red combos.. Or your opponent gets untouchable...
Its about getting your decks key cards before the opponents does!..
Unless you play with expert decks instead (wich is much more fun)..
When you play pro, you either win fast or lose fast.
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