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AlkarRahn
AlkarRahn


Promising
Legendary Hero
Divine Arcanist
posted January 14, 2011 04:50 PM

"Slugma, do as you did before! Grimer, you too, but toward nidorina! Mona, you may as well join in the repeating action, but hit the wispaferyns instead."
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mamgaeater
mamgaeater


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Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted January 15, 2011 01:28 AM

"Gah, Zucruu. Wake up, there is a battle going on. Why is it that you can just fall asleep in the middle of battle, how did pokemon survive on their own?... Anyways, Aron use mudslap on parasect. And does anybody have something for sleep?"
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Kareeah_Indaga
Kareeah_Indaga


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 15, 2011 02:51 AM

“You imbecile!” Sesh called to Stacey from the sidelines. “You can’t poison a Poison type!”

“Quit it with the backseat battling thank you!” Mina called back pointedly. “He’s right though,” she added seriously.

To her Pokemon, she called, “Oodramer, Bubblebeam Graveler! Pidgey, Gust Parasect if Zucuu doesn’t get to it—otherwise Gust Machoke! Sandshrew my dear, Rock Smash that Magnemite! Natu, back her up with Night Shade!”

”…And does anybody have something for sleep?"

I saw one in here, I know I did… “Here!” Mina grabbed an Awakening out of her pack and tossed it to Draloed.
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B-E-T-A


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Legendary Hero
Guess Who is Back?
posted January 15, 2011 11:25 AM

"Pokemon contest, huh?" Christian said and started thinking back to some of the contests he had seen in Hoenn "Bet there is going to be a bunch of people there then. Anything to get their mind of the Brandra occupation." he mumbled
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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 15, 2011 07:16 PM
Edited by Kareeah_Indaga at 03:17, 17 Jan 2011.

Main Group:

((Quick Claw Roll = 42))

Draloed used the Awakening!
Zucruu woke up!

Archeokat 4 uses Defensive Stance!
Archeokat 4 assumes a defensive posture, provoking the foes to attack it!

Archeokat 2 uses Ancient Power! ((Roll = 10!))
Machoke is hit for 27 damage!
It’s not very effective…
Archeokat 2’s Attack rises!
Archeokat 2’s Defense rises!
Archeokat 2’s Special Attack rises!
Archeokat 2’s Special Defense rises!
Archeokat 2’s Speed rises!

((Roll = 40 – one under. *shudder*))
Archeokat 1 still sleeps!

Stripes uses Headbutt!
Geodude 1 is hit for 11 damage!
It’s not very effective…
Geodude 1 faints!

Natu uses Night Shade!
Magnemite 2 is hit for 21 damage!

Nidorina uses Bite! ((Roll = 49 – hit!))
Gastly is hit for 109 damage!
It’s super effective!
Gastly faints!

((Roll = 6))
Wispaferyn 1 is confused! ((Roll = 7))
Wispaferyn 1 uses Helix Flame! ((Roll = 67 – hit!))((Roll = 8!))((Roll = 14))
Aron is hit for 11 damage!
Aron is hit for 7 damage!

((Roll = 98))
Wispaferyn 2 is confused no more!
Wispaferyn 2 uses Silver Wind! ((Roll = 27 – hit!))((Roll = 73))
Mona is hit for 23 damage!

The floating Bug type shakes itself as its senses clear and attacks the Grass Pokemon. Fortunately Mona’s secondary type protects her from excessive damage.

Wispaferyn 3 uses Helix Flame! ((Roll = 94))
Attack missed!

((Roll = 1))
Machoke is confused! ((Roll = 43))
Machoke uses Seismic Toss!
Brona’s Grimer is hit for 35 damage!

Pidgey uses Gust!
Parasect is hit for 38 damage!
It’s super effective!
Parasect faints!

Bronzor 1 uses Extrasensory! ((Roll = 27 – hit!))
Pidgey is hit for 57 damage!

Bronzor 2 uses Gyro Ball! ((Roll = 20 – hit!))
Wispaferyn 2 is hit for 12 damage!
It’s not very effective…

Bronzor 3 uses Confuse Ray! ((Roll = 85))
Attack missed!

Phoebe deftly avoids the attack by flopping back behind her trainer to hide.

Magnemite 2 uses Spark! ((Roll = 33 – hit!))((Roll = 77))
Oodramer is hit for 28 damage!

Looks like Misty’s not the only one that thinks he’s a Water type, Mina reflects.

((Roll = 26))
Graveler 2 still sleeps!

Geodude 4 uses Rock Throw! ((Roll = 82))
Attack missed!

Oodramer uses Bubblebeam!
Graveler 2 is hit for 55 damage!
It’s super effective!
Graveler 2 faints!

Sandshrew uses Rock Smash! ((Roll =16))
Magnemite 2 is hit for 15 damage!
It’s super effective!
Magnemite 2’s Defense falls!

Aron uses Mud Slap!
Attack missed due to target KO!

Mona uses Acid! ((Roll = 44, 90, 85))
Wispaferyn 1 is hit for 14 damage!
Wispaferyn 2 is hit for 12 damage!
Wispaferyn 3 is hit for 14 damage!

Brona’s Grimer uses Disable! ((Roll = 12 – hit!))
Archeokat 4’s Defensive Stance was disabled!

Stacey’s Grimer uses Poison Gas!
No effect!

Nidorina inhales deeply, breathing in the gas. She seems amused.

Slugma uses Ember! ((Roll = 33))
Machoke is hit for 9 damage!

Geodude 3 uses Magnitude! ((Roll = 36))
Magnitude 7!
((Roll = 79, 10, 82 – miss, hit, miss!))
Attack missed!
Slugma is hit for 32 damage!
It’s super effective!
Attack missed!

Stripes and Stacey’s Grimer hastily scoot out of the path of the attack.

The allied Pokemon are buffeted by the Sandstorm!
Pidgey takes 3 damage!
Pidgey faints!
Natu takes 3 damage!
Oodramer takes 4 damage!
Stripes takes 4 damage!
Phoebe takes 2 damage!
Slugma takes 3 damage!
Slugma faints!
Mona takes 3 damage!
Stacey’s Grimer takes 4 damage!
Brona’s Grimer takes 4 damage!
Zucruu takes 4 damage!

The Bandra Pokemon are buffeted by the Sandstorm!
Wispaferyn 1 takes 4 damage!
Wispaferyn 2 takes 4 damage!
Wispaferyn 2 faints!
Wispaferyn 3 takes 4 damage!
Machoke takes 6 damage!
Nidorina takes 6 damage!

Geodude 3 loses 5 HP due to poison!

Sandstorm rounds remaining: 3

Group:

Pidgey: 0/63
Natu: 48/54 (Defense down 1 level)
Sandshrew: 53/53
Oodramer: 17/66 (Defense down 1 level)

Stripes: 42/71 (Defense down 1 level)
Phoebe: 37/41 (Defense down 1 level)

Slugma: 0/50
V: 4/46 (recalled)
Mona: 10/51 (Defense down 1 level)
Grimer (Stacey’s): 43/65

Rhyhorn: 65/65 (recalled)
Gastly: 0/55
Magby: 0/38
Grimer (Brona’s): 25/68 (Defense down 1 level)

Aron: 28/56
Zucruu: 63/71 (Defense down 1 level)

Houndour: 0/60
Pikachu: 0/48
Evan: 0/79
Dubba: 0/61
Blaze: 0/67
Hedge: 0/58
Growlithe: 0/65
Sting: 0/57
Snorlax: 0/113
Rattata: 0/58

Starlight Squad:

Wierdra: 0/153
Honchkrow: 0/132
Arkhiti: 0/58
Girafarig: 0/69
Clefairy: 0/63
Tentacool: 0/50
Stellas: 0/97

Wild Pokemon:

(Safeguard Active)
Archeokat 1: 33/159 (Attack up 1 level, Speed down 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels) (Asleep)
Archeokat 2: 122/159 (Attack up 1 level, Defense down 1 level, Special Attack up 1 level, Special Defense up 1 level, Speed up 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels)
Archeokat 3: 0/159
Archeokat 4: 124/159 (Attack up 2 levels, Defense up 1 level, Speed down 2 levels, Accuracy down 3 levels, Defensive Stance disabled)

Bronzor 1: 84/120 (Defense up 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels)
Bronzor 2: 33/120 (Defense up 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels)
Bronzor 3: 13/120 (Defense down 2 levels, Accuracy down 3 levels)

Bandra Pokemon

Geodude 1: 0/41
Geodude 2: 0/41
Geodude 3: 24/41 (Poisoned, Accuracy down 1 level)
Geodude 4: 22/41 (Speed up 2 levels, Accuracy down 1 level)
Mankey 1: 0/41
Mankey 2: 0/41
Mankey 3: 0/41
Mankey 4: 0/41
Wispaferyn 1: 15/75 (Confused, Accuracy down 1 level)
Wispaferyn 2: 0/75
Wispaferyn 3: 45/75 (Accuracy down 1 level)
Magnemite 1: 0/55
Magnemite 2: 12/55 (Defense down 1 level, Accuracy down 1 level)
Magnemite 3: 0/55
Graveler 1: 0/70
Graveler 2: 0/70
Machoke (Taskmaster’s): 6/111 (Confused, Accuracy down 1 level)
Nidorina (Taskmaster’s): 47/109 (Accuracy down 2 levels)
Parasect (Taskmaster’s): 0/97

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Christian:

“You’re probably right,” Nurse Joy agrees, then changes the subject again. “You look like you’re healing all right, but wait here a minute and I’ll have my Blissey speed up the process a little.” The nurse leaves, returning a few minutes later with her Blissey in tow.

“Blissey, Softboiled.”
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AlkarRahn
AlkarRahn


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Divine Arcanist
posted January 16, 2011 10:11 PM

Stacey frowns. "It's a poison type? Bah! Sorry Grimer. My mistake.....again. Slugma return, and Mona get back. You both did great." She takes out Slugma's pokeball for the recall. "Grimer, hit the Nidorina with mud!"
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wog_edn
wog_edn

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The Nothingness
posted January 16, 2011 10:17 PM

Brona recalled Gastly. Damn! "Grimer, use poison gas on the Archeokat ((4))!"
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Mytical
Mytical


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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted January 17, 2011 12:10 AM
Edited by Mytical at 00:11, 17 Jan 2011.

"Pheobe tackle that Machoke. Stripes, headbutt that Geodude((4))." Misty looks at the chaos and quickly text.  "We need to focus our attacks!  Get rid of the geodudes then the weakest ones!  The fewer pokemon they have, the more of an advantage we have."
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ohforfsake
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Legendary Hero
Initiate
posted January 17, 2011 05:14 PM

Zack looks worried from the sideline having been tending to the wounded while carrying supplies during a sudden illness all while sleepwalking.

"Go Psyduck, Mr. Mime and Staryu!" Zack calls.

"Mr. Mime, copycat oodramers bubblebeam and use the attack on Archeokat 4"

"Psyduck use tail whip"

"Staryu use harden"

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mamgaeater
mamgaeater


Legendary Hero
Shroud, Flying, Trample, Haste
posted January 18, 2011 04:05 AM

"Those wild pokemon are looking rowdy, do you really think they will leave us alone when bandra is beaten? Zucruu, use wing attack on nidorina and aron use iron defense."
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Kareeah_Indaga
Kareeah_Indaga


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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 18, 2011 06:21 AM
Edited by Kareeah_Indaga at 06:40, 18 Jan 2011.

((@ohforf:

Welcome back. ))

Mina recalled Pidgey with thanks and fingered her Repel. It occurred to her that they’d been going about this the wrong way; once the Bandra Pokemon were gone there wouldn’t be anything to split the attention of the much more powerful wild Pokemon, and they were losing too many of their own to be able to deal with the wild ones effectively—scratch that, at all.

If I’d had Pidgey Whirlwinding from the start…but too late now, she reflected. Bitterly she added to herself, And blast it all. We are all going to die because none of these people can use status effects to save their lives. LITERALLY to save their lives!

Mina tried to break the cap off the Repel as she gave her orders. “Oodramer, that Geodude ((3)), Bubblebeam it!” Just hang on one more round, my dear. “Natu, Night Shade that Magnemite!” She struggled with the Repel a little more. “Grrr, Sandshrew help me break this!” The last came out a frustrated plea.

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Main Group:

((Quick Claw Roll = 77))

Stacey recalls Mona!

Mina tries to use a Repel!
((Obedience Roll = 96 – FAIL))

Sandshrew gives her trainer a look of utter disgust like ‘what am I, a can opener?’ and scampers off to do something she perceives to be more useful.

Archeokat 2 uses Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around the battlefield!

Zucruu uses Wing Attack!
Critical hit!
Nidorina is hit for 30 damage!

((Roll = 89))
Archeokat 1 wakes up!
Archeokat 1 uses Rock Slide!
((Roll = 39))
Natu is hit for 803 damage!
It’s super effective!
Natu faints!
((Roll = 22))
Nidorina is hit for 117 damage!
Nidorina faints!
((Roll = 17))
Wispaferyn 1 is hit for 911 damage!
It’s super effective!
Wispaferyn 1 faints!
Machoke is hit for 67 damage!
It’s not very effective…
Machoke faints!
((Roll = 5))
Staryu is hit for 245 damage!
Staryu faints!
((Roll = 27))
Magnemite 2 is hit for 134 damage!
It’s not very effective…
Magnemite 2 faints!
((Roll = 79))
Attack missed!
((Roll = 57))
Attack missed!
((Roll = 45))
Psyduck is hit for 322 damage!
Psyduck faints!
((Roll = 61))
Attack missed!
((Roll = 54))
Attack missed!

((The good news is, I don’t have to roll the Flinch chance! ))

“HOLY ((CENSORED))!!”

Several of the Grunts go pale as a cascade of rock sweeps down from the nearby mountainside, spraying over the battlefield and most of their remaining Pokemon.

The Rock Slide goes high—several of the group’s Pokemon manage to duck out of the way (Sandshrew not even needing to use the Sandstorm to hide), but Natu is buried by the attack. Fortunately most of the Bandra Pokemon in the vicinity experience a similar burst of bad luck.

Stripes uses Headbutt! ((Roll = 95))
Geodude 4 was hit for 11 damage!
It’s not very effective…

Wispaferyn 3 uses Will-O’-Wisp! ((Roll = 24!))
Aron is Burned!

((Disable roll = 20))
Archeokat 4 uses Ancientpower!
Attack missed due to target KO!

Bronzor 1 uses Confuse Ray!
Attack missed due to target KO!

Bronzor 2 uses Extrasensory! ((Roll = 94))
Attack missed!

Bronzor 3 uses Iron Defense!
Bronzor 3’s Defense rises sharply!

Mr. Mime uses Copycat!
Mr. Mime uses Bubblebeam((Roll = 1))
Oodramer is hit for 6 damage!
Oodramer’s Slime Body halves the damage!
Oodramer’s Speed falls!

Oodramer gurgles in surprise at the unexpected attack.

Zack!!” Mina shouts, outraged.

((Can’t redirect the attacks you copy with Copycat (or Mirror Move or Me First for that matter). Mimic yes, Copycat and Mirror Move no.))

Phoebe uses Tackle!
Attack missed due to target KO!

Geodude 4 uses Rock Throw!
Attack missed due to target KO!

Oodramer uses Bubblebeam! ((Roll = 79))
Geodude 3 is hit for 133 damage!
It’s super effective!
Geodude 3 faints!

Sandshrew disobeys Mina!
Sandshrew uses Rock Smash! ((Roll = 20))
Bronzor 3 is hit for 5 damage!
Bronzor 3’s Defense falls!

Aron uses Iron Defense!
Aron’s Defense rises sharply!

Brona’s Grimer uses Poison Gas!
But it failed! ((Safeguard!))

“Where did you get this simpleton?” Sesh demands of Elren.

Stacey’s Grimer uses Mud Slap!
Attack missed due to target KO!

The allied Pokemon are buffeted by the Sandstorm!
Oodramer takes 4 damage!
Stripes takes 4 damage!
Phoebe takes 2 damage!
Stacey’s Grimer takes 4 damage!
Brona’s Grimer takes 4 damage!
Zucruu takes 4 damage!
Mr. Mime takes 3 damage!

The Bandra Pokemon are buffeted by the Sandstorm!
Wispaferyn 3 takes 4 damage!

The veil fades.

Aron loses 7 HP due to Burn!

The Grunts recall their remaining Pokemon and have to bodily drag their Taskmaster away from the battle; the latter is practically spitting with fury.

“No! We’re not finished here yet!”

“Boss, there’s nothing we can do!”

“Our Pokemon are practically wiped out, we can’t handle this!” another adds.

“Let the wild Pokemon take care of them!”

“We’re not finished with you, Starlight Squad!” the Taskmaster shouts. “Do you hear me?! We’ll wipe out every last one of you!!!” And that’s the last the group hears from him as the Bandra forces retreat out of sight.


Sandstorm rounds remaining: 2
Stealth Rock in effect

Group:

Pidgey: 0/63
Natu: 0/54
Sandshrew: 53/53
Oodramer: 7/66 (Defense down 1 level, Speed down 1 level)

Stripes: 38/71 (Defense down 1 level)
Phoebe: 35/41 (Defense down 1 level)

Slugma: 0/50
V: 4/46 (recalled)
Mona: 10/51 (recalled)
Grimer (Stacey’s): 39/65

Rhyhorn: 65/65 (recalled)
Gastly: 0/55
Magby: 0/38
Grimer (Brona’s): 21/68 (Defense down 1 level)

Aron: 21/56 (Defense up 2 levels, Burned)
Zucruu: 59/71 (Defense down 1 level)

Psyduck: 0/49
Mr. Mime: 45/48
Staryu: 0/48

Houndour: 0/60
Pikachu: 0/48
Evan: 0/79
Dubba: 0/61
Blaze: 0/67
Hedge: 0/58
Growlithe: 0/65
Sting: 0/57
Snorlax: 0/113
Rattata: 0/58

Starlight Squad:

Wierdra: 0/153
Honchkrow: 0/132
Arkhiti: 0/58
Girafarig: 0/69
Clefairy: 0/63
Tentacool: 0/50
Stellas: 0/97

Wild Pokemon:

Archeokat 1: 33/159 (Attack up 1 level, Speed down 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels)
Archeokat 2: 122/159 (Attack up 1 level, Defense down 1 level, Special Attack up 1 level, Special Defense up 1 level, Speed up 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels)
Archeokat 3: 0/159
Archeokat 4: 124/159 (Attack up 2 levels, Defense up 1 level, Speed down 2 levels, Accuracy down 3 levels, Defensive Stance disabled)

Bronzor 1: 84/120 (Defense up 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels)
Bronzor 2: 33/120 (Defense up 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels)
Bronzor 3: 8/120 (Defense down 1 level, Accuracy down 3 levels)

Bandra Pokemon

Geodude 1: 0/41
Geodude 2: 0/41
Geodude 3: 0/41
Geodude 4: 11/41 (fled)
Mankey 1: 0/41
Mankey 2: 0/41
Mankey 3: 0/41
Mankey 4: 0/41
Wispaferyn 1: 0/75
Wispaferyn 2: 0/75
Wispaferyn 3: 41/75 (fled)
Magnemite 1: 0/55
Magnemite 2: 0/55
Magnemite 3: 0/55
Graveler 1: 0/70
Graveler 2: 0/70
Machoke (Taskmaster’s): 0/111
Nidorina (Taskmaster’s): 0/109
Parasect (Taskmaster’s): 0/97

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Christian:

The Blissey finishes quickly and Nurse Joy inspects the results. A quick physical survey reveals that your ribs hurt much less and the bruising is nearly gone.

“There you are. You’ll still have to take it easy for a few more days, but the swelling is gone now and the bones are knitting nicely.”

Nurse Joy smiles and shows you out of the examination room.

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ohforfsake
ohforfsake


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Initiate
posted January 18, 2011 06:35 AM
Edited by ohforfsake at 06:36, 18 Jan 2011.

(Thanks.)
"*Ack* Sorry" Zacks says saddened, trying to hide the humiliation still under the effect of the shock from the massive attack.
"Didn't really had any experience with it before, should have known better though".

Zack just stands there, looking at the carnage, having a hard time grasping what to do.

He finally takes up his pokeballs, saying nothing he recalls psyduck and staryu.

In one hand now he holds Mr. Mime's pokeball, ready to recall the pokemon, should the other decide it's time for running, ready to follow them. In the other, he readies the pokeball with vigoroth, ready for calling it out and attacking Archeokat 4 with a yawn attack, only given the others decide to stay put and fight.

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Mytical
Mytical


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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted January 18, 2011 06:38 AM
Edited by Mytical at 06:41, 18 Jan 2011.

"We need to buy some time for her to get that Repel going!  Stripes..sand-attack.  Phoebe, tackle the bronzor (the weakest one).  Everybody..start focusing on one of them at a time.  Pick one and take it DOWN!"

Stripes will target the Archeokat
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wog_edn
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The Nothingness
posted January 18, 2011 09:40 AM

"Grimer, mud-slap the Archeokat ((1))!" Brona said. "Anyone got a revive? If I could get my growlithe back we could use roar to get away!"
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Mytical
Mytical


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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted January 18, 2011 10:54 AM

Misty shook her head.  "Sorry, gave the last one up."
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AlkarRahn
AlkarRahn


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Legendary Hero
Divine Arcanist
posted January 19, 2011 01:14 AM

Stacey takes out one of her standard pokeballs, and tries to catch Bronzor 3.
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wog_edn
wog_edn

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The Nothingness
posted January 19, 2011 01:27 AM

Brona notices Stacey and decides to do the same, only using a great ball trying to catch Archeokat ((1)) instead.
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Kareeah_Indaga
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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 19, 2011 03:12 AM

((@Mytical: There are three Archeokat left; which one do you want to target?))

((Also, backtracking a little bit for roleplaying purposes.))

Natu!

Mina tried a recall; the beam hit stone and nothing happened. About then she started to panic. Rushing over heedless of the battle going on around her she dug frantically at the loose stones until the tiny feathered body of her Psychic type was excavated. She froze; there was just the tiniest bit of movement—breathing. Mina exhaled.

“Return.”

((Rest of the last round here. ))

Oodramer! Break this! Vortex!”

Mina threw the can of Repel at him. She didn’t like sacrificing a super-effective attack for something that might not even work. But it was plain she couldn’t count on Sandshrew to do this, and she’d already tried to manage it herself without success, so Mina didn’t see a better alternative.

“Sandshrew if you’re going to attack them, hit one of those,” she motioned to the Archeokat. “They’re pure Rock types; your Rock Smash isn’t working as well on the Bronzor!” The Archeokat were also faster and hitting a lot harder; Mina hoped her slowest team members would be able to hold on long enough to do what she asked of them.
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Mytical


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Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
posted January 19, 2011 06:23 AM

((Sand-Attack is a multi creature attack..so start with 1 and whichever enemy pokemon are nearest that one)). Misty looked nervously at the remaining wild pokemon.  "Dang it, we need to get out of here before those other guys catch up or the ones that just fled regroup."
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Undefeatable Hero
posted January 19, 2011 04:47 PM

((*facepalm* Duh, for some reason I thought you said Headbutt. *fixes* Waiting on mamga. Ohforf, what do you want Mr. Mime to do?))

Mina felt her breath still in her lungs as she watched, waiting to see if her ploy would have any effect…
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