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Elvin
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posted June 12, 2008 12:43 AM |
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Out of curiosity why do you think that? Haven't played the map but what do you think hampers its growth?
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samiekl
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posted June 12, 2008 10:02 AM |
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I played dungeon on warlords with Vayshan. Took a might approach (luck, warmachines, attack, enlightenment, destruction). No problems whatsoever.
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ChaosDragon
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posted June 12, 2008 03:29 PM |
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Elvin, you're right, one of its factors is because the growth, but there is another.
Try dungeon with red or orange, and if your opponent is might faction (inferno is the worst), and if he approach your door in week 1( beetwen day 3 and day 7), you'll be defeated.
You have no time to lv up, so how you get enlightment, attack, and destruction, even if you get it, it will probably at basic lv. Even if you managed to lv up, you'll be at lv 3 or less.
I said inferno is the worst because you'll have little to no mana, all of you know this, dungeon without magic lose to any faction, and in this case, inferno have more than enough mana to rain destruction spell to you, while you have none. Might wise, dungeon is defeated, not even pack of furies saves you, you can still rain down 1 or 2 eldritch arrow, but your enemy can rain down 5 or more, it make dungeon equal to inferno magic wise, or i may say inferno is stronger in this scenario.
The only way to win is to hire 2 more hero, if both new heroes are dungeon heroes, then you are very lucky.
Even sylvan can easily defeat dungeon if they are red and orange.
However, dungeon has bigger chance than in red or orange.
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Elvin
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posted June 12, 2008 09:46 PM |
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Check your messages.
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ChaosDragon
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posted June 12, 2008 11:45 PM |
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To be honest, inferno is the hardest to master, i've tried all factions, mastering inferno take longer than the others.
Basically, almost all heroes that start with war machine are the clone of deleb.
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Nebdar
Promising
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Generation N
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posted September 25, 2008 07:52 PM |
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Voted for Inferno. From my expierence starting without the WarMachines Deleb is a hard start and play fight trying minimize the loses proves very difficult. The Gatting sometimes prove a dilema attack now first or wait/gate and be exposed for an attack(with poor Def). All Inferno creatures just die to quickly. For this day i don't know how to use them efficently.
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blizzardboy
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Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted September 25, 2008 07:54 PM |
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Inferno.
I don't know why Fortress got so many votes. Sure they suck at early creeping, but they have the ghey rune powers that just lets you blow all of your resources in a single critical fight to give your units nonstop superpowers. Inferno gets gating, which is great after they've completed the 50 years it takes to get them on the board.
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razor5
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Freezing...
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posted September 25, 2008 08:17 PM |
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For me,the Inferno is the nice and not difficult faction to play,well I can consider this because I played the most with Inferno
I voted here Fortress
@BlizzardBoy
You ask why Fortress has so many votes : because the buildings at the start cost some resources which are hard to find at the start.And the Runic Spells ... hmmm ... For me is hard to use them
This is just my IMO
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MarcusX
Known Hero
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posted September 27, 2008 02:20 AM |
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I have to say that stronghold is the hardest factioin to master. yes master while it isn't a particularly hard faction to play with to be able to use it to its full potential takes hours of play time.
I also have to agree with razor5 althought the inferno takes a little while to get use to it isn't that hard. my opinion.
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Elvin
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posted September 27, 2008 02:35 AM |
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Oh please  Certainly not as straightforward as say haven but it has simple principles. There are few effective builds and pretty simple creeping. Academy and dwarves are a lot more complicated.
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MarcusX
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posted September 27, 2008 02:40 AM |
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really you don't think so? mabey I just suck at playing them I have never found the acadamey very hard but tacticts havn't changed much scinse homm3 and that was my 2nd fav faction in that game.So I got really good at them.
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Elvin
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posted September 27, 2008 02:42 AM |
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Tactics haven't changed..? Academy is nothing like it was in H3.
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MarcusX
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posted September 27, 2008 02:46 AM |
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well maybe I just keep playing it like I did in homm3 I will have to go back through an revamp all my curent playing methods. I really only just got into heroesV I know really late. But I will do my best to catch up with all you guys.
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PsyrenJ
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posted October 04, 2008 07:43 AM |
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Definately Dungeon.
Too many units with glass jaws (except hydras and dragons).
Resource costs on buildings are ok, but expensive units, weak growth, worthless sac. pit... its really crappy that you have to be so picky and economical with their early-game creaping.
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Elvin
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posted October 04, 2008 08:07 AM |
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Lol to think it's one of the easiest factions to manage early.
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Nebdar
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posted October 04, 2008 10:37 AM |
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Lol to think it's one of the easiest factions to manage early.
then it seems that all depends not on faction but on player
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Cleave
Promising
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Raging Blood
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posted October 04, 2008 10:53 AM |
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Try playing Academy if you think Dungeon is hard to manage because of costs.
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Vangelis21
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Manchild
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posted October 04, 2008 02:24 PM |
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after 200 online games i think things are pretty obvious depending on factions
Orcs: easy to play, easy to creep, difficult to master, difficult to have a good final battle
Academy: if you know the game and the other factions, academy is the easiest faction to play.
Dunegon: risky. depending on your mana it can become from the easiest to the worst faction easily
dwarves: diffcult to creep, incredible late stages
necro: difficult to creep until find mana, tricky faction, medium-hard to play
sylvan: depends on hero, in general easy if rich map, difficult if poor map
haven: i cant say a lot as i dont know it best but i think it all depends on the creatures selection.
inferno: difficult to creep, easy after week 3
in general, in my opinion always, academy is a complete faction that if you study it a little it is easy to play with, orcs are the easiest to play with but mind the rage because if you lose a lot then you stand no chance. if you have a lot of mana dungeon becomes the easiest. if you have plenty of gold or resources sylvan is the easiest. there is no easy - diffuclt faction. everyone beats everyone and it all depends on the map. to sum up: Do you want a complete faction tha you can do everything with? pick academy. do you want a faction of walking-killing? pick orcs
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Elvin
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posted October 04, 2008 03:33 PM |
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Academy: if you know the game and the other factions, academy is the easiest faction to play.
Says the Havez abuser  If you played 'magic' wizards more often you'd probably think otherwise. Especially when it comes to the final battle.
Dunegon: risky. depending on your mana it can become from the easiest to the worst faction easily
Lack of mana means you've done something wrong.
necro: difficult to creep until find mana, tricky faction, medium-hard to play
Easy to creep regardless of mana, just conserve it.
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted October 04, 2008 03:35 PM |
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Of course the most difficult are Fortress and Inferno, because they have the creeping hard.
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