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Heroes Community > Library of Enlightenment > Thread: Tribute to Strategists
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Orc
Orc


Famous Hero
posted December 28, 2019 12:20 AM
Edited by Orc at 00:24, 28 Dec 2019.

phoenix4ever said:
That is honestly a real good question, since Red Dragons have 1 more attack, defense and speed than Green Dragons. They also cost 100 gold more.
I would suggest switching their AI Values.


what bugs me is that the combat value for red dragon IS better than that of green dragon, but regular AI value still wasnt fixed :/

Edit: unliss there is a reason to make Reds more likely to join while greens more fearless.

only reason I can think of is that greens have more pride and reds are more obedient and tamed by mighty overlords.

but that has nothing to do with gameplay, and almost all creatures do not follow that.

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monere
monere


Supreme Hero
posted December 28, 2019 12:47 AM

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unliss there is a reason to make Reds more likely to join while greens more fearless
now, I can't prove anything but since I always play with diplomacy I have noticed this to be the case many times. Whenever I go on a dragon joining spree in month 11 I always end up with 1.5x-2.5x more red/black dragons than green/gold ones.

You might be onto something here
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Orc
Orc


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posted December 28, 2019 11:05 AM

monere said:
Quote:
unliss there is a reason to make Reds more likely to join while greens more fearless
now, I can't prove anything but since I always play with diplomacy I have noticed this to be the case many times. Whenever I go on a dragon joining spree in month 11 I always end up with 1.5x-2.5x more red/black dragons than green/gold ones.

You might be onto something here


well Green Dragons do have higher value, but Gold Dragons have lower value than black dragons.

in fact blacks have highest AI value from all lvl 7, even greater than Arch Angels.

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phoenix4ever
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posted December 28, 2019 12:22 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 12:25, 28 Dec 2019.

Black Dragons are great, I hate when they get shot down by Arrow Towers and there is nothing you can do about it though. It really is a bummer that they (and Gold Dragons) can't be resurrected.
So the question is what are you gonna do to keep those dragons alive?, get Ballistics so you can destroy Arrow Towers?, get First Aid so you can heal your dragons?, or spam Earthquake and hope to destroy enemy's Arrow Towers ASAP?

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Orc
Orc


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posted December 28, 2019 01:39 PM

phoenix4ever said:
Black Dragons are great, I hate when they get shot down by Arrow Towers and there is nothing you can do about it though. It really is a bummer that they (and Gold Dragons) can't be resurrected.
So the question is what are you gonna do to keep those dragons alive?, get Ballistics so you can destroy Arrow Towers?, get First Aid so you can heal your dragons?, or spam Earthquake and hope to destroy enemy's Arrow Towers ASAP?


Id recruit goblins and wolf raiders

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phoenix4ever
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posted December 28, 2019 02:51 PM

What does that have to do with Arrow Towers shooting at Black Dragons?

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Orc
Orc


Famous Hero
posted December 28, 2019 03:13 PM

phoenix4ever said:
What does that have to do with Arrow Towers shooting at Black Dragons?


Arrow towers like Skeletons, Goblins, and wolf riders more than black dragons.

they also like archers.

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phoenix4ever
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posted December 28, 2019 08:37 PM

Not necessarily, sometimes they shoot your dragons and the question was what do you do then?

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Orc
Orc


Famous Hero
posted December 29, 2019 01:35 AM
Edited by Orc at 01:40, 29 Dec 2019.

phoenix4ever said:
Not necessarily, sometimes they shoot your dragons and the question was what do you do then?


in that case you dont have many options left.

1-) Air Shield (oh wait it doesnt work)
2-) Armorer
3-) mass cure every turn (oh wait it doesnt work)
4-) first aid skill
5-) Enhanced War Machine Script (First Aid Tent will revive units after battle; so if only dragons died, script will revive some of them). Make Sure First aid tent is alive until the end of battle. Also, Revive all other units before battle to insure only dragons are resurrected.

Edit:There is an easier solution though: dont bring them to the fight, or dont upgrade them before fight so you can resurrect.


Though now you raise the question: why would arrow towers choose to target dragons over goblins? what exactly determines who they target?

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Zaio-Baio
Zaio-Baio


Promising
Famous Hero
posted December 29, 2019 11:24 PM

You can use black orb to negete gold and black dragons immunity and be able to resurrect them.

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phoenix4ever
phoenix4ever


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posted December 30, 2019 10:55 AM

You don't always have Orb of Vulnerability, besides there are 3 Rampart heroes and 1 Dungeon hero that starts with the Resistance skill, which get completely ruined by Orb of Vulnerability.

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bloodsucker
bloodsucker


Legendary Hero
posted December 30, 2019 08:10 PM
Edited by bloodsucker at 20:48, 30 Dec 2019.

phoenix4ever said:
Not necessarily, sometimes they shoot your dragons and the question was what do you do then?

If AI thinks you are stronger it will attack your weakest units first, if it thinks you are weaker it will attack the strongest ones first. So, you may get creative (use exploits) and not bring your dragons (or not all of them) or you can wait until you are the strongest one to attack the town. I recommend the first option.
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phoenix4ever
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posted December 30, 2019 08:24 PM
Edited by phoenix4ever at 20:25, 30 Dec 2019.

bloodsucker said:
F... Am I the only one who feels you are polluting a sacred space?

What does that mean?
But yeah it's pretty weird, with it shooting at different targets depending on how it perceive your strength.

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Orc
Orc


Famous Hero
posted December 31, 2019 12:10 AM

bloodsucker said:
phoenix4ever said:
Not necessarily, sometimes they shoot your dragons and the question was what do you do then?

If AI thinks you are stronger it will attack your weakest units first, if it thinks you are weaker it will attack the strongest ones first. So, you may get creative (use exploits) and not bring your dragons (or not all of them) or you can wait until you are the strongest one to attack the town. I recommend the first option.


nice finding. does that mean my Wyverns and Efreets are always safe when I have lvl 1 and lvl 7 preset?

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