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Adrius
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posted January 27, 2009 12:08 AM |
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Edited by Adrius at 00:09, 27 Jan 2009.
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Why cant I do that? There are lots of Warcraft blogs and they are really popular, yet there are no lore blogs.
Sure, I'll facepalm them too.
I'm pretty sure most of us thought you had already reached the peak (or should I say bottom?) but hey, you're full of surprises.
Go ahead and find more ways to prove your devotion to this game... it's your choice.
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Cepheus
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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
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posted January 27, 2009 12:49 AM |
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I understand with Illidan, since he was pretty much a good guy.
But Blizzard said sorry about Illidan and that it didnt turn out as they wanted.
That's hardly an excuse, let alone an exemption.
You write a story which screws up earlier events and then try to salvage the "good parts" by pretending the bad never happened, and you'll end up with an even worse story than if you'd done nothing.
And how on Earth didn't it turn out as they wanted? They alone made an entire expansion pack in which your goal is killing him, didn't they?
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Ednaguy
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My water just broke! No, wait.
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posted January 31, 2009 01:10 PM |
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Why I hate WOW? I know not many of you (hardly anyone) will care about this, but I'll write it anyway. In my "gang" at school I have five friends, and four of them play WoW. That's not a problem when my fifth friend is at school, but everytime he is sick (Which has happend a lot lately) I have rarely anyone to talk with, because my other friends always talk about WoW. So lately I've felt that the only reason I'm together with them is because I want it to look like I have friends.
I'm also watching how WoW is "ruining" their lives. It seems like trey're giving up everything else just to be able to play. They hardly do any homework, and instead of working at school, they make plans together of what they're going to do when they get online. I remember we were learning about Carbons in Science. We were working with it for four weeks, and during that time one of my WoW-friends had read the front-page in our book. He didn't even bother to do more when we knew we were going to get a test about it. And he did very well at school before he started playing WoW.
And my other friends aren't any better either. The only reason they work at school is because their parents won't allow them to play WoW if their grades get too low.
Luckily next year we'll all start in different schools, and I won't see most of them as often as I do now, but I can't say I'll miss any of them very much.
Thanks for your attention (if any).
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"Edna, there's a special, tiny, tiny place in hell, waiting just for you... "
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rubycus
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posted February 01, 2009 12:44 AM |
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Acctually I think the game WoW is fun. But there are three reasons for why I don't play it:
1. I don't have the required time
2. I do not want to get addicted (which almost happened to me when I tried the 10 days free trial )
3. I do not want to pay the monthly cost
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xerox
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posted February 01, 2009 01:24 AM |
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Fools!
Now you made me return to this thread and make stupid replies that makes no sense!
When Blizzard made Illidan in Burning Crusade it kind of sucked. It was like "Zomg the Blood Elves attack Shattrath City for no reason, now we need to kill them!".
That Akama betrayed and cooperated with Maiev was very cool, but Illidans actions in BC were lame.
Im so happy that Chris Metzen apoglized and said that they too think it turned out rather lame.
I hope this means they will change it so that Illidan is revived by Malfurion and train Demon Hunters against Sargeras and Kil'jaedan or something like that.
As for that you perform worse in school, it depends on the person. I have learned most of my english from WoW and the WoW players are the best people in the english class.
My best friend (who made WoW popular in my old grade) performed bad when he played WoW for a while (but I think he did it before too) but he really wanted to be one of intellignet elitists.
So he almost outperforms me in some subjects (I choosed Spanish and he German, but I think he speaks better german then I speak espanol  ) and still plays WoWs, raids in a guild etc.
As I said it depends on the person, as there are many WoW players in my school (ok... very, very, very, very many) and those in my grade doesnt perform worse then others.
I have seen no change. Does that were bad before stayed the same when they played WoW but got a lot better on english.
The smart and good guys stayed smart, intelligent and good in school´.
Bah, I hate Gustav in my grade! He is better then me in Maths and Natural Oriented Subjects (aka Chemistry, Biology, Physics) AND spanish.
But im better in all other subjects
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Over himself, over his own
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Ednaguy
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posted February 01, 2009 10:16 AM |
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About the school thing, back for two years ago they played WoW and also cared about school. So maby it is more dependant on what age you are or how long you've played. Of corse it also depends a little on the person, but when all four are reacting just the same, something else must matter too.
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Guarder
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posted February 01, 2009 06:05 PM |
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I have seen no change. Does that were bad before stayed the same when they played WoW but got a lot better on english.
The smart and good guys stayed smart, intelligent and good in school.
Nuff said, the teachers didn't increase the difficulty of your homeworks.
Also, you don't see yourself what is wrong with starting a wow blog?
Don't you think it has gone a little far?
And you don't consider yourself as addicted?
I tried the 10-day free trial (only 3 days, since i got a big crash on my pc. accidently, i deleted both a stertup file, and the cd-drive. to fix cd-drive, i need to startup the pc, and to fix the startup, i need to use the vista cd. Yes i'm using vista and i know it sux.), and here is my oponion:
WoW is an ok game, but i don't understand why so many becomes addicted. The music wasn't so special (maybe i'm just spoiled with KB: TL) and the graphics isn't so good. Also, how does your english improve by playing wow? Maybe becouse of the dialogs with thise npcs, but clearly not chatting with others. example: Will ya buy (something) for 234g?
It's not other things than that!
just my two cents
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xerox
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posted February 01, 2009 06:56 PM |
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People dont talk like that
I think its mostly because you speak with other people in english every day in WoW. I knew little english when I started and rarely took time to check the backstory in the quests etc.
But now I always read fast through them(both my friend and I are Warcraft lore nerds - we talk about the mysterie surroanding the Old Gods almost every day They say like "Can you tell us about Grim Batol this time" and im like "Sure, Grim Batol was built by Wildhammer dwarves but taken by Orcs in the second war to breed Red Dragons. Today Deathwing resides in its deepest dungeons" etc).
In a guild you talk a lot too. We have ventril/teamspeak on raids.
I dunno were addiction for some people comes from. I dont have WoW at my mums apartment/house because I wánt varitaton and can then play on my Xbox360 there instead.
But when you play goals you set up goals for you to achieve (for instance, "Get XXX item from XXX boss in XXX dungeon", achieve exalted status with the XXX faction to buy that weapon).
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Over himself, over his own
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Ednaguy
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My water just broke! No, wait.
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posted February 01, 2009 06:58 PM |
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@guarder - I completely agree about the english-part. From what I've heard from when my friends are talking, most of it doesn't sound like English. And most of the words in-game are never used later in your life (exept if you're going to work with mytology). Also, from what I've seen from the game (which is not much, so I might be wrong) there is no strategy in it. Once you've started a fight it's just about using the right skill as many times as possible before you're dead.
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"Edna, there's a special, tiny, tiny place in hell, waiting just for you... "
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Guarder
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posted February 01, 2009 07:17 PM |
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what about WoW-lore-addicted then?
If you makes blogs about a game, writes fan-fiction and fills a heroes forum with it, then sure you're addicted.
Also, i read through most of the chat message people sent, and it was nothing else, i could swear on it.
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xerox
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posted February 01, 2009 08:53 PM |
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I have written fan-fiction about Fable, Heroes etc too - those that make me an addict for those?
Well then im also addicted to my own fantasy universe since I make RTS, RPG and MMO games based on it all the times and lots of book ideas for them (Current plans are three trilogies - War of the North, Cycle of Time and Avatars).
And im also addicted to myself because I have a blog about other things too.
And there is lots of strategy
If you cant play your class then you suck and cant do good healing/damage migration/damage dealing.
A healer must understand the 5 second rule, dps must know the most viable talent specs, tanks must know who to migrate damage best etc and everybody should know how to play their class.
I play Priest, Shaman and Hunter. The Shaman must know which totems to place. The Hunter must know his shot rotation. The Priest mst know how to best combine healing spells.
Boss encounters have the most tactic of all.
Some have more tactic and some have less tactic.
The Kel'thuzad encounter is an example of rather simple tactics (for the dps).
Phase one starts with that lots of waves of undead comes from portals. The melee much kill the Abominations, the ranged the Banshees and everybody the Skeleton Warriors before they reach the area the raid group stands in.
As time goes, more and more adds come.
In phase 2 Kel'thuzad enters the fight himself. He mind controls people which heal him alot. He casts Icy Tomb on players, killing them within 4 seconds (they must be spam-healed to survive).
He casts dark void zones which you must avoid or you die. Melee must stand 5 yards from each other, ranged 15 or something.
This is because he casts a curse, which reduces your mana and the mana destroyed is converted into area of effect damage around you.
At phase 3 the tricky part comes. 2-4 crypt lords, "Guardians of Icecrown", appears through the portals and the tank must pick them up as far as possible.
They do a powerful stackable debuff so people must defeat Kel'thuzad as fast as possible.
So this is fight that doesnt require much tactics.
Now another boss, Malygos, is much more tactics.
Malygos does Arcane Breath which does lots of arcane damage, killing an non-tank. So everybody must stand beside Malygos (not behind, his tail can kill you too).
In addition, Arcane Sparks spawns from four corners. If they reach him, Malygos does 50% increased damage which will result in everybody dying.
However, if the raid kills the sparks before they reach Malygos, they do 50% incresed damage instead. Malygos must be defeated within 8 minutes or he enrages, also resulting in an wipe.
Lastly (in phase one) Malygos does Vortex, doing +18k damage to everybody over some seconds and while in the Vortex, people can only cast instant heals.
After the Vortex you fall down, taking heavy fall damage. This often results in the death for the entire group.
Also when you land down Malygos does Arcane Breath.
In the second phase, Malygos takes off to air. He will summon adds flying on small discs. In addition, Malygos will unleash all arcane energies doing plus 2000k damage to everyone.
The only way to avoid this is taking protection in small bubbles. The bubbles shrink in size and the group must swap bubbles all the time.
When the adds are killed, a player can steal their disc. After all members in the group stands on the flying discs, Malygos shatters the main platform (its really cool, you can see the fight on Youtube).
The discs also shatter but the Red Dragonflight sends their Drakes to pick up the falling party members and you fight Malygos on drakes. Some drakes heal, some dps and everybody must have a shield on them all the time.
Finally Alexstrasza, the leader of the Red Dragonflight, comes and finishes Malygos and there is a small event.
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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Guarder
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posted February 01, 2009 08:59 PM |
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I have written fan-fiction about Fable, Heroes etc too - those that make me an addict for those?
For one thing, no, but does you fill a whole forum with yourself, or writes fan-fiction about you? Don't think so...
when you are maniacly trying to convince a whole forum that WoW rocks, don't you consider yourself as addicted?
Also i understand Azagal about ignoring most of our arguments.
ps. don't listen to Adrius' sig
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Ednaguy
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My water just broke! No, wait.
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posted February 01, 2009 09:15 PM |
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And there is lots of strategy
If you cant play your class then you suck and cant do good healing/damage migration/damage dealing.
A healer must understand the 5 second rule, dps must know the most viable talent specs, tanks must know who to migrate damage best etc and everybody should know how to play their class.
I play Priest, Shaman and Hunter. The Shaman must know which totems to place. The Hunter must know his shot rotation. The Priest mst know how to best combine healing spells.
Doesn't this restrict you to do the same things everytime you play a particular class? It doesn't look like WoW allows a lot of diversity...
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"Edna, there's a special, tiny, tiny place in hell, waiting just for you... "
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xerox
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posted February 01, 2009 09:42 PM |
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I dont say "WoW rocks" im just angry that people say "zomg people speak 1337 speech" and "there is no tacticzzz!!!" or "zomg everybody in the lore is killed and getz mad!!1 there no history! the end is near!!".
Also do you think im about to suicide or what?
You only live once you know.
All classes have diffrent ways to heal/tank/damage.
The Priest is like an all-around healer. The Discipline talent spec focuses on creating barriers and shields to heal allies. This is an unique feature for the Discipline Priest.
The Shadowpriests are more utility. Their damage is converted into healing for himself and the group and they can trigger an aura that restores mana.
The Hunter focuses around shooting rotations, aka you should shoot shots in a special order to get maxmium dps.
BM hunters need to keep their pets alive too.
The Rogue focuses around stealth and poison. He will want to attack from behind and keep their energy regenration high.
The Warlocks need to look on the duration of their damage over time spells. Like a Beastmastery Hunter, a Demonology-specced Warlock must make sure their pet survives.
The Paladin is an hybrid class. They can both heal, damage and tank. They have no healing over time spells and only one area of effect spell. Rather, they are really good in single target healing.
A Retribution (damage dealing) Paladin must time his Judgements good and a Protection Paladin can tank multiple monsters at once very good.
The Mage can focus on Arcane, Frost or Fire Magic. There is also a very viable talent spec that combines Frost and Fire, people call it the "Frostfire Spec".
Arcane is very based around utility and talents. Fire is pretty much burst damage and Frost has great survivability.
The Death Knight is WoWs first new class and all talent trees can tank. Death Knights have an unique "rescourse" system. They use runic power and runes.
When you use a spell that costs runes (runes have a 10 second cooldown) then it regenrates some runic power.
The Blood Death Knight regenrates health for the party and himself. A frost deathknight has very high survivability and the Unholy death knight is very good at anti-magic tanking.
Death Knights must time their strikes correctly and are focused around diseases (as Warlocks are focused around Curses).
The Druid is another hybrid class. Druids can shapeshift into different animals. A Druid specced into Balance can shapeshift into a humanoid owl (a Moonkin). Balance druids focuses around spellcasting.
The feral druid can tank and do melee dps. Tanks transform into Bears and dps into Nightsabers/Lions.
Feral is very based around bleeds.
Lastly, a healing druid focuses around Restoration. Restoration is like 99% focused around Healing over Time spells, like a Discipline Priest is focused around Shields.
The Shaman can both dps and tank. They have various totems for various situations and elemental shields.
An Elemental Shaman does ranged spell dps. An Enchantment shaman focuses on Shocks and melee abilities. A Restoration shaman is very good at healing multplie allies at once, they have the Chain Heal spell for example.
All classes have talents which change their gameplay style a lot.
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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Ednaguy
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posted February 01, 2009 09:55 PM |
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I read your post, and it seems like WoW has a little more diversity than I first thought, but still, it doesn't seem like you can develop your own unice tactics. But I might be wrong, as I've never played the game.
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"Edna, there's a special, tiny, tiny place in hell, waiting just for you... "
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baklava
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Legendary Hero
Mostly harmless
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posted February 01, 2009 10:34 PM |
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You only live once you know.
You get an infinite number of lives in WoW for the price of just one real life.
Sounds fair.
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"Let me tell you what the blues
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money,
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Howlin Wolf
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DagothGares
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted February 01, 2009 11:18 PM |
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I read your post, and it seems like WoW has a little more diversity than I first thought, but still, it doesn't seem like you can develop your own unice tactics. But I might be wrong, as I've never played the game.
All classes are molds in the machine called WoW. Just grind your way high enough and you'll know.
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xerox
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posted February 02, 2009 01:23 AM |
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"Molds in the Machine" what does that mean?
Blizzard has removed most of the grinding aspects. Sure, if you have an proffession you might go and kill/banish some elementals but otherwise you could just buy them on the auction house
Reputation aint grinding anymore either. Now you can equip their tabard and "champion" for them which makes mobs in instances award reputation for the faction you champion for.
And most quests in WotLK atleast isnt the old generic "Kill 15 Defias Pillagers. 6/15 killed".
One quest I remember is the ones in Icecrown (the homeland of the Scourge). You actualy help to construct a new quest hub and later a fortress. The Scourge also invades and you get to shoot down their Frost Wyrms with cannons ^^
I hardly see leveling up as grinding. You dont kill the same mobs all the time when you level and my first time in WoW was great and I still like leveling a lot for some reason
There are so many areas to level in, I want to expereince them all!!!
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Over himself, over his own
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- John Stuart Mill
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DagothGares
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Undefeatable Hero
No gods or kings
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posted February 02, 2009 01:25 AM |
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You dont kill the same mobs all the time
They are still the same melee attackers with at most one annotying ability or the ranged attacker with the annoying ability...
It's grind-tastic
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Asheera
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Elite Assassin
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posted February 02, 2009 01:27 AM |
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But what would you suggest instead?
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