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JimV
JimV


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posted October 18, 2011 12:51 AM

I just tried to reproduce this playing as Orange (Xarfax) in version 2.07J and could not.  When the Banshee has been set to Faerie Dragon mode, a wand cursor will appear on an enemy target, but when I right-click Wait and select the bottom option (not to use a casting attack), the wand will not form and I can do a melee or ranged attack instead.

That is, within the Banshee's turn I can start with a casting attack (wand) and use the Wait menu to change to a ranged (arrow) or melee (sword) attack.

I did not retest with previous versions but I don't recall any changes to the Banshee options.

If you are certain that you cannot get out of Faerie Dragon mode and can upload a saved game (anywhere where I can download it), with a description of what actions to take to produce the glitch, I will see if I can reproduce the glitch in your saved game.  If I can, I should be able to fix it.  (I am running on a Windows 7/32-bit PC.)

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JimV
JimV


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posted November 04, 2011 01:33 PM

I have made another revision to versions 2.07E and 2.07J, at
http://www.box.net/shared/bj1eh6b50e

The reason was to change a UN:C address from one which works on my PC but may not work on other systems, to a new address which should work on all systems.  For more background see the discussion on page 110 of the ERM Help and Discussion thread.  (Thanks again, Bersy.)

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pogolqm
pogolqm

Tavern Dweller
posted November 16, 2011 09:35 PM

Hmmm .. you know .. i did not get the Orb of Air when i got the grail to the tower town .. i mean i got a msg of sort about it and i thought i got it but when i checked 4-5 days later it was not in the inventory .. i cant reload before the grail to read the msg to see if there was something more about it and i dont have te orb now   it will take me waaaay to much time to play the game to this point again .. can someone help me and tell me if i did something wrong ?

Also cant start a fight with the Tyris at 5/131/0, but i have still not given up on figuring how to get pass the pass guard  
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted November 16, 2011 09:38 PM

I see the cheat menu I scripted for first version is still in last one. So right-click on dismiss hero button and get the four orbs. Finally was a good idea.

I had this bug several times too.
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JimV
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posted November 16, 2011 09:59 PM
Edited by JimV at 22:19, 16 Nov 2011.

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Finally was a good idea.


One among many, I would say.  Your idea to check whether a scripted action has occurred and repeat the action if necessary could also be useful here.  But first:

@pogolqm:  the current script supplies the Orb to the faction Leader, e.g., if you are playing as Red, the Orb is delivered to Lord Haart.  Previously I think there was a bug because Woodmelon's script tried to give the Orb to the current Hero, and there might not be a current Hero.  If your faction leader does not have the Orb, than maybe you are not playing the current version.  When did you start the map?  (I ask because I want to know whether the current script needs another fix.)

P.S. If you were willing to upload one of your saved games somewhere where I could download it, I could check the script to see if it is the latest version.  I understand that might be too much to ask though.


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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted November 16, 2011 10:16 PM

Yes I think that recurrent functions can work on specific situations, but can also freeze the game if searching for HE-1 and there is no active hero. Giving the orb to faction leader is more appropriate, good idea.
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pogolqm
pogolqm

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posted November 16, 2011 10:41 PM

Here is the saved game i have .. http://www.2shared.com/file/wZsYqX1t/NEWGA2.html i hope it helps you ..also if there is a newer version tell me so i dl it
btw .. where is the earth tome of magic .. i am tired of reloading and searching for it for the game ... found the other 3 .. keep searching for it in the city there and it does not show up
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JimV
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posted November 16, 2011 11:44 PM
Edited by JimV at 23:46, 16 Nov 2011.

Thanks for letting me look at the saved game.  The version you are playing is not the current one (see the download link for current versions 2.07E and 2.07J a few posts above).  Your version uses the current Hero (HE-1) instead of the faction Leader.

The Earth Tome is not at a specific location, but is the result of a battle which is randomly triggered as your Hero walks within these map coordinates: x from 69 to 85, y from 0 to 62, underground.

It is not necessary to find either the Orbs or the Tomes to win the game (map).  So far I have completed the map once without doing so, using the Ghost method.  One of my nephews and I are playing it again, but only for about an hour per week.  I would like to find the Orbs and Tomes this time, if we ever finish.

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pogolqm
pogolqm

Tavern Dweller
posted November 17, 2011 01:40 PM

Thanks, i will take a loot at the new version of the map.

I was thinking i may not have to find everything but i did not know how to fight the Tyris at 5/131/0 so i did what i could if maybe something triggers the border to open and also i wanted to find more and more of the map   it is a fun map .. and i still have not finished it with half the heroes .. i find it very hard when all options are stacked against me
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songfx
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posted November 17, 2011 02:33 PM

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Thanks, i will take a loot at the new version of the map.

I was thinking i may not have to find everything but i did not know how to fight the Tyris at 5/131/0 so i did what i could if maybe something triggers the border to open and also i wanted to find more and more of the map   it is a fun map .. and i still have not finished it with half the heroes .. i find it very hard when all options are stacked against me

Before fight Tyris, pls go to Cathrine's house at north of the Hell.
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pogolqm
pogolqm

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posted November 20, 2011 06:24 PM

hmm is it normal for Xarfax to have 30 all stats and 80 Supreme Archangel second henchman in the 7-th day on the second week ? (his first is lvl 7 and i can handle that .. but lvl 80 ??) I mean .. is there even a way to kill him so early on or is it made so it does not happens  ? i am playing Lord Haar and reached him on the 13-th day with lvl 30 .. and he just one-hit me
i will be able to kill him ofcorse if i play a longer game .. providing he does not come to kill me that is
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted November 20, 2011 06:43 PM

80 supreme on second week is not normal. Upload a save?
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JimV
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posted November 20, 2011 06:49 PM
Edited by JimV at 18:50, 20 Nov 2011.

So far I have not seen that. (I have beaten Xarfax about three times, once as Orrin, twice as The Doctor.)  I think I have seen numbers around 20 or maybe 30, not 80.  I have always played with the option that AI leaders are restricted to a radius of 15 squares, so once Xarfax has cleaned out the neutral bands around his Inferno, there is no way for him to accumulate more experience.  I play for fun, not so that I can try to set a world record for winning at the highest possible difficulty - which is fortunate for me, since there is no way I could set that record due to the many great players who can play The Dragon Slaughter under conditions which are impossible for me -such as Salamandre, Pacifist, and Songfx.

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pogolqm
pogolqm

Tavern Dweller
posted November 20, 2011 07:46 PM

I always thought that i am pretty good at heroes. This map is a bit of challenge for me still, but i like it and am gething the hang of it :0 and i will pass it at the worst possible conditions for me but still it makes me stop and wonder sometimes.

http://www.2shared.com/file/Bnmt32TT/Lodr_Haart.html

here is the replay. i took his city and he is a bit to the left of the city. the bad thing is i cant run away , he caches me on the next move and i dont have earlier safe (not to much of a bother it is still just the second week  

I will wait for your reply with eagerness
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted November 20, 2011 07:50 PM

I am not able to load this save under any ERA version.
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JimV
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posted November 20, 2011 08:33 PM
Edited by JimV at 22:35, 20 Nov 2011.

I just did two quick play-tests as Lord Haart, using WoG cheat codes to get to Xarfax quickly.  On day 6, week 1, he had 48 Supremes as Second Henchmen - so my memory was a bit off - but on day 6, week 2 he had only progressed to 49.  So 80 seems right out, unless he did not have the 15 square radius and was able to continue finding neutral swarms to beat up on.  Or maybe he was extremely lucky to start with high random numbers of the monsters in his territory, which quickly became swarms.  Or maybe you set a higher rate than I use in  the first menu at game start, "Creature numbers and increased AI power", which sets an AI strengthening-rate of from 10% per week to 40% per week.  I always select 20%, not being a masochist.

Good luck at setting the record for winning the game under the most difficult conditions (if a million people in China haven't already done so).  (It would still be very impressive.)

Back to watching USA football, for my part.

Update - the games are dull, so I downloaded the saved game and used Bersy's excellent EVME tool to check v1012=neutral growth menu choice.  The value is 5, the maximum level, which makes creature numbers quadruple on days 1 and 8, and increases the strength of AI leaders by 40% per week.  

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pogolqm
pogolqm

Tavern Dweller
posted November 20, 2011 11:03 PM

hmm what is an ERA version  ? and i uploaded a save a couple of days ago and it worked fine for ...(check up for who requested it) and the map version is the last update from a couple of posts ago ... if i have to dl something tell me i am willing to do what i have to to get the map running normaly
(on a side note .. do diamond dragons lave life leech ? for a computer player and not a henchman ? )
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted November 20, 2011 11:09 PM

The map is for 3.58, don't worry. It's just that it seems that further WoG version can't load older saves. Not even a warning, just plain crash.
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JimV
JimV


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posted November 20, 2011 11:39 PM

Just to be clear:  your saved game works okay under WoG 3.58f, and your only problem seems to be that you are trying to play the game at the highest level of difficulty.  A few people who tried this earlier in the thread said that it seemed ridiculously hard.

I am not sure what you mean about the Diamond Dragons, but I think the answer is no.  You can see what properties neutral armies have by placing the mouse pointer on a stack to see its creature-based properties, and bringing up its experience dialog to see its experience-based properties.  I usually check all the enemy creatures during Tactics rounds, to see what I am facing.  This makes battles very long, which is another reason that my nephew and I are making slow progress.

On the other hand, I have never used the item "Neutral creatures get help" in the starting menu either, so maybe that does something which I am not familiar with.

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pogolqm
pogolqm

Tavern Dweller
posted November 21, 2011 12:12 AM

I am not using Natural get help option .. i just continued the save (escaping from Hell on a  boat   and met Gem  she had 35 diamond dragons and thay had the same skill as Vampire Lords .. with 1500 hp and gem healing it is a bit vexing when i kill 33 and she Res/Cure/Heal/leech them in one turn to 25 (i retried the battle 20 times at one point i died with only 2 dragons left when they blocked my double attack, at that point i gave in for the night) And nowhere in the statistics was anything about leeching .. i even made a game with Gem and cheated my way up to diamond dragons to try it but they worked normaly for some reason this save of the game hates me i think

Also, where to dl the same version of the game as everybody else so i dont get mistakes like, not reading the saves or other random stuff ?
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