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Thread: [H6 news batch 26.08.10] ~ Discussion and feedback This thread is 13 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 · «PREV / NEXT»
Cepheus
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posted August 27, 2010 06:55 PM

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Weeks?  


How about I nitpick all of your mistakes in future then.
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alcibiades
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posted August 27, 2010 06:57 PM

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Those creaturepoints are rather redundant, dontcha think. That's what gold is for. OK, I'll give that gold is also used as a building resource, but that's never stopped us before.
Why bother with creaturepoints when you can make the goldprices differ.


No, it's not redundant. Gold may or may not be a deciding factor for what you buy. If you're rich, Gold will not be the controlling factor.

The point with my system is that you're not locked down on having to by a fixed distribution like in the old games - if you want more Archers, you can get more Archers.

However, let's imagine the old Sylvan line-up, with Pixies at level 1, Bladedancers at level 2, and Hunters at level 3. Obviously, anybody would pick a Hunter over a Bladedancer on a 1:1 basis - and that's the point of the creature points. If you pick the Hunter - which is the better unit - you cannot get as many.

Thus, the Creature Points would be a way of letting you still have different strengths within each group - i.e. all core units are not equally strong - and still have balance, so that you can't max all of them out on the strongest unit.
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Dexter
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posted August 27, 2010 07:32 PM

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Those creaturepoints are rather redundant, dontcha think. That's what gold is for. OK, I'll give that gold is also used as a building resource, but that's never stopped us before.
Why bother with creaturepoints when you can make the goldprices differ.


No, it's not redundant. Gold may or may not be a deciding factor for what you buy. If you're rich, Gold will not be the controlling factor.

The point with my system is that you're not locked down on having to by a fixed distribution like in the old games - if you want more Archers, you can get more Archers.

However, let's imagine the old Sylvan line-up, with Pixies at level 1, Bladedancers at level 2, and Hunters at level 3. Obviously, anybody would pick a Hunter over a Bladedancer on a 1:1 basis - and that's the point of the creature points. If you pick the Hunter - which is the better unit - you cannot get as many.

Thus, the Creature Points would be a way of letting you still have different strengths within each group - i.e. all core units are not equally strong - and still have balance, so that you can't max all of them out on the strongest unit.


As much as I agree with the Creature Point thing, I can't possibly imagine using those, and only those, for buying units. It would be a good addition to the old system, yes, but certainly not a replacement for it.

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Aosaw
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posted August 27, 2010 08:10 PM

Have we heard definitively that there will only be five factions?  So far, what I've read has only told me that there are five family members in the Griffin Empire.

If that's true, then I don't see why there couldn't be a sixth faction, unmarried to the Griffin family, that fills the Academy niche to oppose Anastasia's Necropolis.

That would leave room for the Dungeon and Rampart factions (i.e. elves and dark elves).  I honestly don't see orcs making an appearance in this game - at least not at first.

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alcibiades
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posted August 27, 2010 08:11 PM

You would ALSO have to use Gold, of course - but Gold would not be limiting for how many creatures you could buy at max in the whole week, just how many you could afford.
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Nelgirith
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posted August 27, 2010 08:13 PM

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Have we heard definitively that there will only be five factions?  So far, what I've read has only told me that there are five family members in the Griffin Empire.

If that's true, then I don't see why there couldn't be a sixth faction, unmarried to the Griffin family, that fills the Academy niche to oppose Anastasia's Necropolis.

That would leave room for the Dungeon and Rampart factions (i.e. elves and dark elves).  I honestly don't see orcs making an appearance in this game - at least not at first.

5 factions. The 4th one will be a known faction from previous Heroes and the 5th will be a brand new original faction.

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alcibiades
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posted August 27, 2010 08:16 PM

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5 factions. The 4th one will be a known faction from previous Heroes and the 5th will be a brand new original faction.

From where comes this information?
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Nelgirith
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posted August 27, 2010 08:18 PM
Edited by Nelgirith at 20:19, 27 Aug 2010.

The french "insiders" have posted I didn't want to post all the infos before Elvin got a chance at doing so

The 4th faction will be announced around November. The 5th only in January.

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted August 27, 2010 08:35 PM
Edited by Elvin at 20:39, 27 Aug 2010.

Oh don't worry about jumping the gun. It's not a race who posts first you know

Btw it is possible that we do not have the same sources.
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alcibiades
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posted August 27, 2010 08:52 PM

Ok ... can you provide a link or something, and how reliable do we know this information is? Only asking because I will no put it in the masterpost if it turns out to be a duck.
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rayquest
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posted August 27, 2010 08:59 PM

FACELESS PLZ!!!!! That would be so sick, cuz supposedly they're apart of the ashan universe, but have never before had representation. *crosses fingers*

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alcibiades
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posted August 27, 2010 09:06 PM

I guess it will be Naga, given the apperance of Jungle as a terrain also, but we can only guess until november then.
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War-overlord
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posted August 27, 2010 09:06 PM

It is not going to be the Faceless. The are practically extinct! Those things are way higher on the endangered species list than those useless panda-things.
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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted August 27, 2010 09:10 PM

They could make fine bosses though. But this is just an educated guess on my part, I'm sure many have considered it.
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xerox
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posted August 27, 2010 09:11 PM

My guess now:

Jungle: Academy
Plains: Haven
Lava: Inferno
Wastleand: Necro
Underground: Faceless
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Nelgirith
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posted August 27, 2010 09:21 PM
Edited by Nelgirith at 21:23, 27 Aug 2010.

Got a few news from the "insiders" from Archangelcastle.com (french community) : http://www.archangelcastle.com/h6_presentation_VyseDridri (sorry it's in ... french duh!)

- The 4th faction will be announced in November. It's a known faction from previous Heroes.

- The 5th faction will be an original faction. It will be announced in January only.

- The creatures belonging to the same category (core, elite) will have similar stats but their abilities will determine their role on the battlefield.

- During sieges, we can put archers in the main tower

- The defensive moats will be back

- Creatures will still have passive and active abilities (like Griffins still have their Dive - which one wasn't said though )

- Some kind of line of sight system will make its appearance again.

- Creatures won't be able to wander on the map without hero

- The focus points and the dwelling systems are made to put more emphasis on our main hero, rather than having people buying heroes to make chains of heroes

- The Phoenix will be back as a neutral creature. It will be blue because it is linked to the Moon. (Ubisoft is trying to create its own bestiary for M&M universe)

- Town conversion will be very expensive and take several turns (not said how many). A player can stop the conversion by attacking the city and interrupting it (not said if it's automatic or if you have to click something)

- During a conversion, buildings that are common to all towns won't be destroyed (marketplace, tavern, town hall)

- At the beginning of a map, a scrolling will show the "points of interests" of a map (a bit like KB when you first visit an island)

- The combat arena with bosses will have "special" designs

- A huge work has been done on every creature's animations : passive, dealing damage, taking damage (seems the griffin is screaming a lot )

- Sveltana has a sexy voice


EDIT : The 2 sources were at the Gamescon

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Aosaw
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posted August 27, 2010 09:24 PM
Edited by Aosaw at 21:26, 27 Aug 2010.

I might be totally out of the loop, living under a rock and what-not, but:

Just what are these Faceless people keep mentioning?  I don't see them making an appearance, if they're thus far unmentioned except in passing.

EDIT:  Ninja'd by new information.  Huzzah!  Except a lot of it sounds familiar...

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Elvin
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What if Elvin was female?
posted August 27, 2010 09:30 PM
Edited by Elvin at 21:30, 27 Aug 2010.

What I know about the line of sight is that it works with obstacles, don't know about units. Also if I'm not mistaken it is reduced damage instead of inability to shoot, will soon know more.

Faceless are one of the first races, believed to be extinct. There was a pic of them in the 'what I hate about heroes' thread.
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Nelgirith
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posted August 27, 2010 09:30 PM

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It is not going to be the Faceless. The are practically extinct! Those things are way higher on the endangered species list than those useless panda-things.


~400 years before is when the Faceless actually "created" the Dark Elves from the tribe of Tuidhana.

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lichking012
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posted August 27, 2010 09:35 PM

Personally my bet is that the 4th faction is academy and the 5th is either Nagas or something completely different. (not fortress or Stronghold). I can see both of the Elven factions appearing in an expansion. Since this is around the time of the Dark Elf Split, I see that as great potential expansion plot for the game to have.

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