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Azagal
Azagal


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Smooth Snake
posted February 09, 2011 05:13 PM
Edited by Azagal at 17:16, 09 Feb 2011.

I really don't get the controversy over the the videos quality. We got great new information. So what that it doesn't star the Ubi bosses or LeBreton and what not. Julien wasn't hard to understand he informed us about things we wanted to hear and gave new information when the vast majority in this thread is constantly wanting more. And then the guy takes it upon himself to give us something and all we show him is ungratefullness? You really ought to be ashamed of yourselves... so what if Julien has an accent I'm no native speaker and it was easy enough for me to understand him and if I wasn't sure all I had to do was to rewind a bit. Pretty petty to critize him for that...

Not to mention that this was the first of further Q&A videos. Oh and incase you didn't know Q&A means Questions and Answers so no matter how pretty the video looks the point will always be to provide us with Answers. What will stick with you after the video is not how pretty it looked but the information it conveyed. And the video does just that. So please criticsm is fine and well but critize where criticsm is due, not where it's out of place.

EDIT: And yeah the french accent was awesome. The females in this thread a probably all just complaining because they found his french voice so sexy that they didn't pay attention to the information. So actually it's not their fault Julien is to blame he needs a less cute accent.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


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passed out drunk in Tavern's
posted February 09, 2011 05:16 PM
Edited by Kenishi at 22:15, 11 Feb 2011.

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I might be jumping to conclusions, but I think that this video was a hint that "old heroes" are unlockable characters to use in multiplayer.


I think your on the right track whit the reasoning and also would explain
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The possibility to download additional content: one singleplayer map, 2 Living Artifacts 3D premium, 2 Dynasty Heroes premium and 1 epic mount.
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the description for the Collector's Edition content.
  So as I see it will have some special objective like finish in a certain time or on a given difficulty to unlock a hero ... for playability is OK but not many people will like this fact, than again it might by that I'm just rambling and will be easier to unlock them, brake prison or help a wandering hero who will join you as reward for it.
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SwampLord
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posted February 09, 2011 05:23 PM
Edited by SwampLord at 17:24, 09 Feb 2011.

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Really?  I kind of hope that they're not in the campaigns.  Having unlockable features solely for use in multiplayer encourages players to play together, whether in hot-seat or over a network, and that's a good thing.  Also, I feel like having Sandro as a key player in the campaign would be a little too much like crossover fanfic....


I don't want them to be major players in the campaign, but if the old M&M world is getting referenced then it deserves to be referenced in the campaign.

I disagree about multiplayer unlockables; the only people who are going to play for a multiplayer-only unlockable are people who already play multiplayer. Generally, I don't like being forced to "unlock" additional content after I've already paid for the game; that's what I hated about C&C4. If I drop $40-50 on HVI I want to be able to use my classic heroes from the start, dammit.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


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posted February 09, 2011 05:26 PM

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For next one, we'll be sure to add subtitles from the start and Julien will do his best to have great understandable french accent. I thought french accent was cute, no? ^^


    For me it was harder to understand what he was saying not because of the accent but because it was shoot in huge room that gave out echoes.
    So to make it even more of a cute French accent just cut the echoes (probably use a microphone or change the room) so that everybody can appreciate it.
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Yaeliccc
Yaeliccc


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Undead, but warm and fuzzy
posted February 09, 2011 05:37 PM

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I think the main issue here for those who dislike the video is that the amount of info is less than expected from a Q&A video and they wonder why not just post the info in text at fb or somewhere instead.

No, what's annoying is that they do NOT answer the real questions fans have (and I'm talking about the fanbase who are on fansites, not those failbook lolz lolz lolz kids).

Though since this was Q&A #1, I suppose they rearranged the questions by themes and this was the least interesting of all


1. those non fans are more important for game's success
2. im pretty sure many of people in here also comment on facebook page
3. someone who hates facebook that much and calls it names, u sure do spend a lot of time reading its pages and ur pretty much the only one bringing the facebook in here constantly so why are u so obsessed with facebook ?
4. besides that i do agree we're upset coz we dont get the real answers, and thats what everyone thinks but people have problems staying on topic hence they made irrelevant comments about the french accent

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kodial79
kodial79


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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted February 09, 2011 06:00 PM

It's not bad to offer criticism when I really think I can help with improving something.

Now there, I never said anything bad about Julien's accent or that Erwan is better. I never stated any such prefferences.

I just felt that the video needed a more official aura to it. Maybe there should be more space. Maybe play some music on the background. Ubisoft's trademark at start. Cutscenes of gameplay footage, even if it were scenes that were seen before.

Also, it would be good if the question was read in the video, before answering it. In this case, a non fan who would happen to watch it, would understand better what this is all about.

But anyway, Xhane's right that if they want to answer all of our questions, they can't be making every video a blockbuster. So I suppose my complaining about it, is really not to the point. If this video is only meant for us, then it's fine as is.

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kodial79
kodial79


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How'd Phi's Lov't
posted February 09, 2011 07:58 PM

Hell if I did change my mind, I'm still claiming the same things. I'm just not being rude about it, unlike you. The only difference is that once I realized that just saying I don't like its presentation is not enough, I tried to throw in some ideas that could make it better.
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Zenofex
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posted February 09, 2011 08:33 PM
Edited by Zenofex at 20:35, 09 Feb 2011.

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Well this isn't supposed to be a pompous corporate video like the others with the producers; it's a Q&A by a Might and Magic fan, for Might and Magic fans, which happens to be official. You can demand better, press-release style presentation akin to the vids with the producers, but with all the pointless bureaucracy, validation and perfectionism involved, it would've taken several weeks longer to release - is that a reasonable tradeoff?
I don't know what it was supposed to be, I'm saying what it is - and it's far from adequate even for a fan-made presentation, let alone official info release. OK, let's say that (unsurprisingly) you have never heard of Heroes VI - then maybe you'll learn something new. I'm not criticizing the accent of the person, nor the lack of in-game footages, but the total absence of new information. I though that this was the aim of the exercise and I still don't understand why does it have to be video while simple Question-Answer sheet will do just fine (especially given that they don't intend to make a "pompous corporate video"). They seem to be treating the game as some third-rate product which isn't exactly what its title deserves. No sir, not at all!

@Xhane, if you are reading this - I don't mean to be rude, but what are you people doing there? Who wanted to know what colours are the horses and how does the female knight armour look like? On the official forum, here and on Celestial Heavens people requested other kind of information. The respective topics were created by insiders and... by you, so you should be fully aware what do we want to know most. Videos like this - with nothing new in them - look like some eye-wash. People that I know to play Heroes think that the game is developed and advertised by amateurs and it's not like you are doing something to dissipate these fears so far.

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KingImp
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posted February 09, 2011 08:42 PM

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I don't know what it was supposed to be, I'm saying what it is - and it's far from adequate even for a fan-made presentation, let alone official info release. OK, let's say that (unsurprisingly) you have never heard of Heroes VI - then maybe you'll learn something new. I'm not criticizing the accent of the person, nor the lack of in-game footages, but the total absence of new information. I though that this was the aim of the exercise and I still don't understand why does it have to be video while simple Question-Answer sheet will do just fine (especially given that they don't intend to make a "pompous corporate video"). They seem to be treating the game as some third-rate product which isn't exactly what its title deserves. No sir, not at all!

@Xhane, if you are reading this - I don't mean to be rude, but what are you people doing there? Who wanted to know what colours are the horses and how does the female knight armour look like? On the official forum, here and on Celestial Heavens people requested other kind of information. The respective topics were created by insiders and... by you, so you should be fully aware what do we want to know most. Videos like this - with nothing new in them - look like some eye-wash. People that I know to play Heroes think that the game is developed and advertised by amateurs and it's not like you are doing something to dissipate these fears so far.


That sums up my issue as well.

While I understand there have been many requests for info and you can't get to them all at once, how hard is it to actually cover stuff that people asked about most? I'm sorry, but regardless of which forum it's been asked on, I'd find it hard pressed to say that anyone was asking about what the heroes or their mounts looked like.

No, instead we get a video that tells us a lot of stuff we already knew about. We knew there were heroes specializations, we knew from the recent screenshots what the mounts looked like, and for the most part it's been hinted at so much and for so long that old heroes would be returning.

It's not that we don't appreciate info, but when it's a rehash of stuff that we already knew or it covers stuff that just about no one asked about, then it's a little insulting.

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yasmiel
yasmiel


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Former Chessmaster
posted February 09, 2011 08:46 PM

I find the amount of information adequate for 1st part of Q&A.

Also the presentation is really ok. Answers were provided by a guy that not long ago was just like many of us - a huge fan of the game - which gives it nice extra charm.

I wouldn't worry about technical details of the video. It just means money is not wasted on irrelevant stuff in the end it is something extra, something producers didn't really have to do.

Goodwill should never be greeted by hostility.

Keep them coming H6 folks. All the stuff you are doing is appreciated by most.
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Adrius
Adrius


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Stand and fight!
posted February 09, 2011 10:07 PM

Ok totally unrelated to whatever it is you guys are ranting about, but I just looked at the artwork thread and I gotta say... that Griffin upgrade is looking way better than expected from the artwork.

Awesome.
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vitorsly
vitorsly


Known Hero
Joker!
posted February 10, 2011 01:19 AM
Edited by vitorsly at 01:19, 10 Feb 2011.

YAY! Q&A VIDEO!
Now I know we can create heroes! Still a little problem:
OMG I created a hero that creates volcanoes around the battlefield that do Over 9000 damage to the enemy creatures while you add one more damage to goblins!
If you didnt got it I meant: BALANCE

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admira
admira


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posted February 10, 2011 01:33 AM
Edited by admira at 01:42, 10 Feb 2011.

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YAY! Q&A VIDEO!
Now I know we can create heroes! Still a little problem:
OMG I created a hero that creates volcanoes around the battlefield that do Over 9000 damage to the enemy creatures while you add one more damage to goblins!
If you didnt got it I meant: BALANCE


I think when they mean customizing heroes is in term of outer appearance. Like: Face, hair color/model, gender and name. Maybe a specialization although I doubt you will able to make custom specialization

maybe options for starting skills/magics at best. But not much affected the balance.

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Maybe at best, you can give a Magic Hero some might hero specialization or make a Haven Hero with cerberus Specialization for example. Unless they release a scripting for triggering and customizing ability and specialization on their editor, I doubt there will be custom skill/ability/creature ability/magic we can customize.

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War-overlord
War-overlord


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Presidente of Isla del Tropico
posted February 10, 2011 09:58 AM

The tutorial and the prologue sound pretty good. Seeing as I've spent hours on end playing HoMM, I'm pretty sure that I know the basics of the game. Even the new features seem easy enough to master. But now I am definately going to play the these pre-campaign maps. If only for the Lore-value of it.
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alcibiades
alcibiades


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of Gold Dragons
posted February 10, 2011 10:49 AM

New SOTD is up. Nice looking new map object on the left side, some big blue orb of kinds. And what's the blue creature guarding it ... is that an Elemental?
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Properkheldar
Properkheldar


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Keeper of books
posted February 10, 2011 10:52 AM

All the elementals seems to be there but the water elemental looks just like the spring maiden from the naga faction...now i´m just confused?

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Valen-Teen
Valen-Teen


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UFOlolOgist
posted February 10, 2011 10:54 AM

Yahoo! First happiness for week)))

Elementals are cool. Don't mind the sameness of some units))

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alcibiades
alcibiades


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of Gold Dragons
posted February 10, 2011 11:01 AM

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All the elementals seems to be there but the water elemental looks just like the spring maiden from the naga faction...now i´m just confused?

Really? I can see something that could be an Earth Elemental to the top right, but others than that? In fact, I can't make out much details on these screenshots, they seem to be very far and grainy.
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Demonge
Demonge


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more than meets the eyes
posted February 10, 2011 11:01 AM

If we have Water Elemental on the left, Earth Elemental on the right and Fire Elemental on top of the pic, where is the Air/Wind/whatever?
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Nelgirith
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posted February 10, 2011 11:04 AM
Edited by Nelgirith at 11:06, 10 Feb 2011.

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All the elementals seems to be there but the water elemental looks just like the spring maiden from the naga faction...now i´m just confused?

I don't see them all I've found earth (top-right corner), fire (top-middle) - not sure about this one though - and water (the spring maiden). Where is the air one ?

Also, there's an Inferno tower building, which kinda confirms that the Haven tower I posted (from the screenshot with Elrath's tree) is also a building

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