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Thread: ~ Heroes 6 - Discussion thread ~ [ This thread is 525 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 (168) 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 ]
Jabanoss
Jabanoss


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posted February 15, 2011 08:27 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 20:29, 15 Feb 2011.

Whatever lets just talk about the most interesting part about Elementals which is...
Summon Elemental, I really hope you have more control over what to summon in heroes 6. In H5 it was just a gamble I mean if you got Earth Elementals you were often unlucky. Personally when going summon I always took the Fire Warriors perk to always know what I was going to get.( and for the 40% bonus ofc )

My point is I hope you can specialize in what Elementals to summon.
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Onryo
Onryo

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posted February 15, 2011 08:36 PM

I find it best(and most logical) if you get your elemental from the environment around you. Then you feel like you control the elements, and summon them to fight on your side. If you fight on lava you get fire elementals, water on the sea and snow, earth in the underground and air on grass etc. That is in fact what happens. The elements around you take the forms of elemantals.

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Protolisk
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posted February 15, 2011 08:52 PM
Edited by Protolisk at 20:52, 15 Feb 2011.

Wow. Way too much stuff to talk about completely.
Elementals:
Darkness elemental! Very cool. I expected This one coming since I saw the glories. My only problem with them (if that is really what it is) is that it looks like this guy:  http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/darksiders-the-watcher-screenshot.jpg
But I guess that is okay, since he looks cool anyways, and fits the "dark" theme.
I believe the "summon elemental" spell was sort of useless since you didn't know who you were stuck with. If dark and light are included, I think that there will just be a spell for "summon ____ elemental", although that might be a little boring, you can specialise in your favourite kind.
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I find it best(and most logical) if you get your elemental from the environment around you. Then you feel like you control the elements, and summon them to fight on your side. If you fight on lava you get fire elementals, water on the sea and snow, earth in the underground and air on grass etc. That is in fact what happens. The elements around you take the forms of elemantals.

Seems like a good idea, but how in the world will Light be summoned? And why Air on grass, if it is literally everywhere? Maybe a selection, like "Air, earth, and Dark are selectable" sort of thing.

Also, if things like spring spirits are in the game, and so are respective neutral elemental, then it leads me to believe that the faction units are the "privileged" or "fanatical" sort of spirit, where they fight for their god's followers, instead of just a spirit world denizen.
Skill Points:
Looks unfinished . It seems that it has a lot of placeholders, but what should I expect from a screenshot like this? The skill tree idea seems sound, as long as they do it well. Since they are pushing for a more RPG-esque game, it only makes sense.


Other things like the catapults and what not are very well done, I think I like the Necro the most, but that's just me.
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Jabanoss
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posted February 15, 2011 09:23 PM
Edited by Jabanoss at 21:26, 15 Feb 2011.

I don't think it should be dependent on which terrain you're on. It should be up to the player entirely which elemental to summon. However if Summon Elementals should be different spells/skills or whatever is a different story.

It would be fitting if they were different spells imo, and this way they can more easily make the heroes more unique when it comes to summon elemental.
For example a Haven hero should have an easier time specializing in Light Elementals, right? (note: I'm not saying that a Haven hero should be unable to summon dark or fire elementals, just have something that makes him less likely to do so (By the way this is pretty much what I think about different schools in general concerning the different factions.))
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Protolisk
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posted February 15, 2011 09:47 PM

Yes, that makes sense. Someone considered to be a master in fire magic would not try to specialise in elementals only to summon water ones because water was near him at the time.
Also, if light elementals and the Spring spirit creature will exist, I believe that the elemental would have a more "primal" look to it. Water elemental being a ferocious wave of terror, while spring spirit being a more calm and composed instead of bestial. At least, I hope this is the case, and not having the two look like each other.
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kodial79
kodial79


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posted February 16, 2011 03:09 AM

So, is this gonna be the cover for H6? Not bad at all...
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Charrclaw
Charrclaw


Known Hero
posted February 16, 2011 04:04 AM

The cover cannot be final. it too damn empty..but still it's nice

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Dave_Jame
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posted February 16, 2011 04:33 AM

The box art is too damned generic. Hope they will make it more interesting

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Charrclaw
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posted February 16, 2011 04:38 AM
Edited by Charrclaw at 04:39, 16 Feb 2011.

OMG! SEE THE NAGA CONCEPT ART I BACKGROUND!

THE NAGA IN BACKGROUND!

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Hungarest
Hungarest


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What? Why? I'm undefeatable
posted February 16, 2011 04:41 AM

You can see a naga in a new screenshot(Michael screenshot)
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Dave_Jame
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posted February 16, 2011 04:42 AM

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OMG! SEE THE NAGA CONCEPT ART I BACKGROUND!

THE NAGA IN BACKGROUND!

Now this is one bad of a Leak :-D

Also "boooo" only a Michael agein? and hi is not even going to by made of metal..

But the SSOTD looks nice.. for the first time you actuelly see the town you are seiging... plus point for that
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Charrclaw
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posted February 16, 2011 04:44 AM

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OMG! SEE THE NAGA CONCEPT ART I BACKGROUND!

THE NAGA IN BACKGROUND!

Good find!


Thank you

And Screenshot is awesome! It gives the feeling of defending a CITY not a....road...

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alcibiades Online
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posted February 16, 2011 04:45 AM

Ok I actually thought the Michael figurine looked very nice and detailed.

On the other hand, I found the SOTD quite boring, nothing really new in it. But true, we get an impression on how the town looks.
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Lokheit
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posted February 16, 2011 04:47 AM

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OMG! SEE THE NAGA CONCEPT ART I BACKGROUND!

THE NAGA IN BACKGROUND!

Good find!


+1  And this one seems to be far more detailed than the previous art.


BTW I really like the cover, is just maazing. Whos this, Michael?

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I'd love to see more elementals than the basic four (six when you account for light and darkness):

Air/Earth - Dust elemental
Air/Light - Sun elemental
Air/Water - Lightning elemental
Earth/Fire - Lava elemental
Earth/Water - Mud elemental
Fire/Darkness - Brimstone elemental
Fire/Water - Steam elemental
Water/Darkness - Bog elemental


I was thinking of something like that but for me Water+Wind is Ice instead of Lightning, wich would be Wind+Fire, something like this:

Water+Earth: Nature Elemental
Water+Wind: Ice Elemental
Water+Fire: Steam/Toxic Elemental
Air+Fire: Lightning Elemental
Air+Earth: Dust Elemental
Earth+Fire: Lava Elemental

This is what I though before about elements combinations, I didn't have the light and darkness implemented into this though.

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posted February 16, 2011 04:50 AM

That could be a naga might hero, doesn´t like like the Tide warrior.

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DoubleDeck
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posted February 16, 2011 05:19 AM
Edited by DoubleDeck at 05:24, 16 Feb 2011.

New Screenshot:

Looks cool, but a little confusing, why are the walls so far away from the actual castle?

Is this a screenshot of a battle screen or adventure map? Think it's a battle screen where you can view alot around the arena....that's pretty cool!


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foxxxer
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posted February 16, 2011 05:20 AM

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That could be a naga might hero, doesn´t like like the Tide warrior.


Yep, looks like a hero to me too (unless they've completely re-drawn all the 7 units?).


I think it's a creature. Of course they were re-drawning the art works. We've seen (probably) alfa version of the artworks or something like that on the leak pictures. Plus that creature looks too similar with the leak artwork of the Tide Warrior

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MattII
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posted February 16, 2011 05:24 AM
Edited by MattII at 05:25, 16 Feb 2011.

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Is this a screenshot of a battle screen or adventure map? Think it's a battle screen where you can view alot around the arena....that's pretty cool!
Battlefield I'm sure, I don't think the units would be lined up like that in the town view (plus it mentions "defending", and defending implies that there's an attack going on).

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Dave_Jame
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posted February 16, 2011 05:32 AM

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New Screenshot:

Looks cool, but a little confusing, why are the walls so far away from the actual castle?

Is this a screenshot of a battle screen or adventure map? Think it's a battle screen where you can view alot around the arena....that's pretty cool!




If you look at the town on map looks
Orc Town on map
You see that the town has a central structure (the town hall) and fortification surrounding it.  This is Actually more realistic to have no main castle and only show the fortification and the rest of the town in the background. If the castles were the same style as in H1-3 it would make more sense to just plunder ewerithing around it and leave the castle alone. No loses, Lot of Gains and enemy is slowed down. This way, where it is actually a fortified town and not a castle with town surrounding it, is much more realistic.
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DeadAce
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Adventuring Hero
posted February 16, 2011 05:36 AM

Tide warrior art looks great! Can't wait to see the entire Naga line up in the final artwork!
IF that is a hero, I'm sure he won't have a horse!

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