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tsar-ivor
tsar-ivor


Promising
Legendary Hero
Scourge of God
posted April 20, 2011 01:42 PM
Edited by tsar-ivor at 13:43, 20 Apr 2011.

6 is my lucky number, make it good and something to be proud of .
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Brukernavn
Brukernavn

Hero of Order
posted April 20, 2011 01:59 PM

Does anyone have a good translation of the Russian Q&A? Google translate creates some weird sentences.

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MattII
MattII


Legendary Hero
posted April 20, 2011 02:04 PM

rvm1975 posted an on-site translation 2 pages ago. Here it is.

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foxxxer
foxxxer


Promising
Famous Hero
posted April 20, 2011 02:08 PM

As the majority of opinions I'm ok with the delay. Many times I criticized Ubihole (generaly news policy) but now I think it's for better. There are too many concerns about balance, skills/spells (respecs), creature/heroes stats, town screens and many others. But if they don't make a great game (especially about balance and town windows) till september  they will score own goal. The riot will be immeasurable.
Let's hope that they'll enjoy us

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted April 20, 2011 02:11 PM

Quote:
I wake up this morning to find out the following:

-Game is delayed (AGAIN) to September 8th
-There are no dwellings to recruit Neutral creatures
-Heroes primary stats will kind of auto-correct, meaning there won't be surprises in this when you face an opponent

I normally look for the positives, but this news stinks.  I'm highly disappointed in the developers


So you're a glass half empty kind of person?

Positives from the Q&A:

- example of "soaking" affect of water spells (wonder what fire will do!)
- Crematorium/Cover of Darkness is back!

I am not sure that the heroes primary stats will auto-correct like you say, I think it's more to avoid having factions like the dwarves in H5 where you didn't know whether they where gonna get defense or spellpower stat increases.......remember, you have to deal with not only might and magic, but blood and tears as well, many surprises for opponents here.....

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted April 20, 2011 02:30 PM

I think it refers more to cases like dungeon getting high attack and only moderate spellpower, the bane of all warlocks everywhere In that case subsequent level ups would be more focused on power than attack. There was something about Nival's stat programming, often enough the stats seemed to diverge a lot from the percentages they were supposed to follow.
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diegis
diegis


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted April 20, 2011 02:38 PM

If you guyz think that the time bought (from our own pockets btw ) will increase game playability in terms of unbuged, balanced and so on, I have to say Im afraid ur very mistaken. I really hope not, but ... we'll see.
Just dont forget time is money and unfortunate, is ours !
Who can say they will perfect it? but us! WITHOUT A BETA, perfected by dedicated players, I see only empty words, promises, stories of game mechanics, and nothing more.
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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted April 20, 2011 02:39 PM

8 September? That means only in 2012 I will be able to play the game

Anyways, I don't understand why they decided to suddenly change the release date for almost 3 months... they could make one extra creature for the time we had to wait
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted April 20, 2011 02:42 PM

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Anyways, I don't understand why they decided to suddenly change the release date for almost 3 months... they could make one extra creature for the time we had to wait



Who said there won't be a beta? For all you know the closed beta has already begun Or not. But the open beta has been confirmed really.
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diegis
diegis


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted April 20, 2011 02:46 PM

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Quote:
Anyways, I don't understand why they decided to suddenly change the release date for almost 3 months... they could make one extra creature for the time we had to wait



Who said there won't be a beta? For all you know the closed beta has already begun Or not. But the open beta has been confirmed really.


I guess ur playing it? ... Damn Elvin, be more accurate ... ppl are dying here
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admira
admira


Promising
Famous Hero
posted April 20, 2011 02:47 PM

mmm Mixed feeling but yes, it is a very "mature" for the company to deliver the best full potential of their product.

What makes me worry is the fact that I put even higher expectation that I can't even sure if these things that I expected are the cause of the delay. You know: would the delay affect the change in line-ups that majority of people hate about e.g: Glories, medu.. I mean Pearl Maiden and river Spirits? Would the delay means finally you get proper town screen? Would the delay means more neutral creatures (highly doubt it though)?
or
It is actually bugs fixing, balance issue and enhancing story...

Either ones are fine and I can fully accept the delay, but the previous delay *cough*Heroes V *cough*petition the game still delivered in well.. not well, as if the game is not too much different with delay or not.

If this is Blizzard's style delay (yes, MrD, I am talking about Blizzard), then it is a very good news. I remembered in Warcraft 3 when they delay the game that actually worth it (getting better unit model, scrapping imbalance Flying Heroes, Major overhaul in building size for greater good I guess, etc) what I mean is, they change even unit line-up for greater good. If this delay is this kind of delay than count me in, I will even wait another 6 months but if this delay is petition-nival-delay style then I don't think it worth the wait, they will need to patch it anyway.

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KingImp
KingImp


Famous Hero
posted April 20, 2011 02:50 PM

In regards to that latest Q&A, I am not happy about this.
Quote:
Can you mention any well-known and loved buildings we'll be able to visit on the global map and describe some of the new ones?

For instance, there’s the Arena - you still can get a bonus to your Attack or Defense by visiting it, but you have to fight an army first. But the fight is non-lethal, so creatures lost return to the hero’s army after the combat.


What's the sense in having a fight if there is no danger of losing your troops?

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diegis
diegis


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted April 20, 2011 02:53 PM

Quote:
In regards to that latest Q&A, I am not happy about this.
Quote:
Can you mention any well-known and loved buildings we'll be able to visit on the global map and describe some of the new ones?

For instance, there’s the Arena - you still can get a bonus to your Attack or Defense by visiting it, but you have to fight an army first. But the fight is non-lethal, so creatures lost return to the hero’s army after the combat.


What's the sense in having a fight if there is no danger of losing your troops?



I noticed that too...thats crap! no creeping competitivity, almost no danger! how can they "return" ?! from death?1...just remembered its EASTER time///
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
posted April 20, 2011 02:55 PM

Yippie-yaay! Lack of time will no longer be an excuseeee!!!
You know what this means, don't You?...

TOWN-SCREENS! TOWN-SCREENS! WE-WANT-TOWN-SCREENS!

Furthermore, due to the more-than-welcome delay, I will be able to participate in the eventual Beta! QA was nice, spell combos are definitely a welcome addition.(On a related note, it semms to me that playing Heroes will never be the same again! It will be better!)
 Don't diss Ubihole, will You? They seem to be willing to focus on the game's quality, instead of profits, unlike any other vicious, heartless, greedy, corporations! Plus, did anyone else notice that the frequency of QAs increased? That's got to be a good sign; a sign of them com-mu-ni-ca-ting with us. Actually giving a d@mn about how frustrated we may be feeling right now. Isn't that sweet of them? Of course it is! Remember: there's always a worse alternative, so adjust Your judgement accordingly, please.

No, I'm not employed by neither Ubisoft nor Black Hole, and most likely never will be. This is my personal opinion ONLY

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted April 20, 2011 02:56 PM

Quote:
What's the sense in having a fight if there is no danger of losing your troops?

It's an exhibition match, proving you are worthy enough to gain the arena bonus. But obviously there is also a very good gameplay reason..

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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted April 20, 2011 02:56 PM

I think the delay must be balancing related, I mean it must take ages to get balancing right, we know how difficult it is to balance all factions, now with added ingredient blood and tears....

I am afraid to say that the town window might stay.....

@Elvin-> Dwarves was the worst faction to level up, you never know whether you should focus on magic (spellpower) or might (defense)....but interesting point about Nival's stat percentages with each faction not co-inciding with reality.....think this might have been due to building "un-conventional" heroes (eg. Sylvan going dark)

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KingImp
KingImp


Famous Hero
posted April 20, 2011 03:05 PM

Quote:
Quote:
What's the sense in having a fight if there is no danger of losing your troops?

It's an exhibition match, proving you are worthy enough to gain the arena bonus. But obviously there is also a very good gameplay reason..



But the beauty of having reward fights was the decision of whether or not you should attempt it based on your army's strength. Now there is no decision because there is no threat of having your army decimated and having to start from scratch.

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MrDragon
MrDragon


Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted April 20, 2011 03:06 PM

About the non-lethal arena thing:
The Arena fight will probably be significantly more difficult then most creep encounters.
It's probably more designed as a barrier to entry, so you don't grab a massive stat boost early game unless you use some really clever tactics.
Not to mention you'll likely see a creep stack guarding it that you'll have to defeat first in most cases.

I imagine an Arena fight to scale with the weeks of the game so far and contain as example:
Two stacks of Harpies
Two stacks of Panther Warriors
One stack of Cyclopses

Say in week one, that's 30 harpies, 10 panther warriors and 1 cyclops.
Sure you might not lose any of your creatures when attacking it, but good luck winning that in week 1.
By week 6 it might be more like:
110 Harpies, 35 Panther Warrios and 5 Cyclopses.

That's sort of how I imagine it.

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diegis
diegis


Supreme Hero
power of Zamolxis
posted April 20, 2011 03:09 PM

As far as I understand from here reputation points are distributed by players as follows:
-blood points goes for might stats (meaning to att and def)
-tear points goes for magic stats ("spellpower"?-correct me here pls)
Now, what about the rest of stats?
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MrDragon
MrDragon


Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted April 20, 2011 03:13 PM
Edited by MrDragon at 15:18, 20 Apr 2011.

Quote:
As far as I understand from here reputation points are distributed by players as follows:
-blood points goes for might stats (meaning to att and def)
-tear points goes for magic stats ("spellpower"?-correct me here pls)
Now, what about the rest of stats?

No, Blood and Tears are completely unrelated to a hero's stats, they are related to his choices in spells/abilities in combat, actions on the adventure map (such as letting enemies flee or persuing them) and relate to the class's signature abilities and it's advanced class.

Edit:

Example, lets say... Fireball is a Blood spell, casting it raises your blood points, whilst casting say... Stone Skin raises Tears instead.
Once you have accumulated enough Blood points you can advance your Knight into a Crusader, whilst if you have enough Tear points you can advance into Paladin.

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