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Elodin
Elodin


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posted April 21, 2011 03:52 AM

Hopefully the delay will mean a better quality 1.0 release. If the game is not ready for release I am grateful they are pushing the date back.
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Kenishi
Kenishi


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posted April 21, 2011 06:46 AM

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Also most probably Diablo 2 will also be bugless due to this huge time they took creating it


 Sorry don't want to sound like a jerk that would be Diablo 3 your speaking because Diablo 2 and add-on came out in 2000 respectively 2001.

 Also don't understand the rage with the pr-order, because I also pr-ordered, and I specified that I will pay at delivery, and so I can renounce any time the pre-order and actually when I placed the pr-order it was cheaper that it's now and so I will pay the price it was at the placement of the order.

 And as I said in my previous post I'm happy and more confident will get a better product in September but I wished we would have got it in June, but as a saying goes Hope dies last so I'm hoping there won't be any more delays and H6 will be an masterpiece and will get Town Screens ...
  To close up and repeat my self I only dislike the way the announced this delay and the scarce 4 line message that doesn't really tell us anything.

  P.S. Mitzah

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Told you the game could be delayed again. Bummer.


 Aha so your to blame you jinxed it ...
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Karanshade
Karanshade


Adventuring Hero
posted April 21, 2011 07:59 AM
Edited by Karanshade at 08:22, 21 Apr 2011.

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Final joke: today, according to the original plan, we should have started the beta... instead we get the game delay!!! Seriously, the guy in charge of the news should be fired!



So true ...however unofficial was the news , the fact is that the community WAS expecting a beta and not a delay If u are PAID to communicate with a community , this is such a FUMBLE !

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I will tell you why the delay is justified - it's quite simple.


With all due respect Cepheus (and there is a lot there seeing how hard u  try to keep us informed)  ; so with all due respect , I would for one have prefered to have that from UbiHole..it shows some respect , i mean comon , I bought two games like 6 months in advance...maybe I could have done something else with my hard earned 100 euros instead ?

And you must understand that the level of rage is proportional to the level of trust we had in ubihole when we preordered

But yeah ok maybe maybe it still is a good thing if the game is better in september ...but I really doubt it will be before a couple patch anyhow ....so now ,when is the beta coming out then ?
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Adrius
Adrius


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Stand and fight!
posted April 21, 2011 08:32 AM

Excellent news imo, hopefully they can use this time to fully realize the town screens.
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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted April 21, 2011 08:36 AM
Edited by Elvin at 11:05, 21 Apr 2011.

We don't know exactly. If they failed to release it now it is possible they are aiming for next couple of weeks. But this is by no means an accurate estimation, just a personal guess.
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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted April 21, 2011 08:43 AM

People, I have this hunch that they are delaying H6 not due to aesthetics, but due to balancing, balancing and more balancing...

So I reckon the town screens will stay, and everything we have seen in terms of hero screens, 5 factions, etc. will be the same.

Let's not shed anymore blood and tears on this....lol.


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Cepheus
Cepheus


Honorable
Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted April 21, 2011 09:39 AM
Edited by Cepheus at 09:53, 21 Apr 2011.

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One thing I would love to know, Cepheus, is there any chance the RMG may make it into release?


I don't know, but I don't think it's likely. I can't see something that complex being developed and tested in three months on top of other work.

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Frankly, I don't know what's worse, the news I;ve just read or the fact you're giving those lame excuses as worthy of anything


I realise you're upset, and if calling me laughable and lame helps with that I say go for it, but I did my best to try and explain. Sorry.

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With all due respect Cepheus (and there is a lot there seeing how hard u  try to keep us informed)  ; so with all due respect , I would for one have prefered to have that from UbiHole..it shows some respect , i mean comon , I bought two games like 6 months in advance...maybe I could have done something else with my hard earned 100 euros instead ?


I definitely agree that communication is still not good, and I can only hope it's temporary while they're getting their new community developer.
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torin856
torin856


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posted April 21, 2011 09:47 AM
Edited by torin856 at 09:57, 21 Apr 2011.

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Final joke: today, according to the original plan, we should have started the beta... instead we get the game delay!!! Seriously, the guy in charge of the news should be fired!



So true ...however unofficial was the news , the fact is that the community WAS expecting a beta and not a delay If u are PAID to communicate with a community , this is such a FUMBLE !



I can't describe how much I agree.
Okay, the beta date wasn't official but it came out because of their mistake, nobody "cracked" (all rights go to Cepheus ) it.
And it came out nearly 1 full month ago. And they didn't give us in this month even a simple "sorry, it came out by mistake, it won't be true".
So if my fans wait for a beta start by my mistake I really should give them something cool on that date even if I can't give them beta. Gameplay video, new combat video, sneak peek about townscreens, announcing the new Community Developer, info about multiplayer. These are just some examples.
But they gave us very bad news instead of something nice in exchange for the accidentally publicized wrong beta date.
And they had 1 month to prepare.

Because this is bad news no matter how hard the VIP try to explain it.
Yes it will make good for the game, it is 100%, but we, fans were believed that the game will come out June and it'll be finished at that date. So from this context this is bad.
Let's go further. If in September they announce a delay to 2012 will we be happy because more time makes good to the game?
So we should be happy now because they didn't keep their promise? Sorry, but I'm not able to do that.
Long story short: I understand that why was the delay inevitable and I comprehended the reasons too, but this doesn't make this good.

About the preorder: someone said here that preorderers shouldn't complain because they didn't pay yet.
It is not true, I preordered on steam, where the release date was in May and they took away the price from my bank account. So I payed for something I expected in May. My payment was instant but my expected date is now 4 months further. Of course it doesn't violate the law but it makes preorderers disappointed.

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Nelgirith
Nelgirith


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Supreme Hero
posted April 21, 2011 09:59 AM

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People, I have this hunch that they are delaying H6 not due to aesthetics, but due to balancing, balancing and more balancing...

So I reckon the town screens will stay, and everything we have seen in terms of hero screens, 5 factions, etc. will be the same.

Let's not shed anymore blood and tears on this....lol.



Sorry to disappoint you but balancing does NOT take 3 monthes

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Elvin
Elvin


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Endless Revival
posted April 21, 2011 10:06 AM

In H5 case it took 2-3 years

But yeah not much sense to start citing reasons for the delay, especially when there is no conclusive info or even a clue. The new community manager should appear soon and with the beta things should speed up considerably.
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DoubleDeck
DoubleDeck


Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
posted April 21, 2011 10:12 AM

Citing reasons and hunches are different things.

But shot, it's just what I think.....watch that dreaded town window still in the game when it finally comes out

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Synth
Synth


Hired Hero
That's a lady?
posted April 21, 2011 10:29 AM

Long term I'm happier about the delay, but instead of delivering the news tactfully it's been idly slapped into our faces when we expected something nice. I feel a bit like a kicked dog.

There's any number of things that could've been done to break the news gently, something fun like Duke Forever, release some info that isn't part of the plan, anything. A two minute doodle of a griffin hanging on a washing line with the words "Hang in There Baby!" would've done. I'm trying to get behind this, work with me here.

You don't need a full time community developer to just do something a little tactful, jeez.

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MrDragon
MrDragon


Supreme Hero
Eats people with Ketchup
posted April 21, 2011 10:31 AM

One other good thing about the delay is that the Beta will now most likely take place during the summer when most people tend to have more free time.
More Beta testers actively testing means more metric feedback and more direct feedback.
More feedback means a more polished product.

I just hope they go for a long beta cycle so any major complaints that crop up early (town-window, hint hint, nudge nudge) might get time for revision.
Of course even a Beta will need some polish, because there will be people that will on some mental level treat it as a Demo and review it as such when talking to friends, blogging or discussing on forums. (which is why they cannot afford to give out the Beta so casually.)

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acds
acds

Tavern Dweller
posted April 21, 2011 10:48 AM

What I'm a bit pissed about is that they wait so long to tell us that they are delaying the game.
It's not a 3 day delay, it's a 3 month delay, it's not something they just decide one day over coffee break, they must have known this for quite a while. I'd understand if they delayed the game by 1 month because they had been a bit too optimistic with the release date (it would be the second 1 month delay though), but with a 3 month delay I doubt they didn't realize it a lot sooner that they wouldn't be able to complete the game in time.

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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
posted April 21, 2011 12:33 PM
Edited by The_Polyglot at 12:45, 21 Apr 2011.

Elvin, Cepheus, could You please share your personal, non-NDA estimates about the supposed extra content we are likely to get due to the delay?
I know what I would like to get in exchange for it(Town Screens ), but I don't want to get my hopes up in vain, and given that You are a trifle more involved, I hope You could come up with more feasible guesses. Guesses only, mind You, for I do not want to get You in trouble.
Thanks in advance!

Edit: Opps, my first attempt at camouflage was thwarted, let's see if I can come up with a solution... No, sorry, smileys are the only way to go, it seems. I know I may have irritated quite a few of You, constantly breaking my vow to stop raving talking about Town Screens, and I honestly try to keep it at a minimum, so as not to derail the conversations, but sometimes I find it inevitable. Sorry!

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Elvin
Elvin


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Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted April 21, 2011 12:56 PM

Sorry, there is no telling what extra content there will be if at all. I'd personally like to see a couple of things but for the time being there can be no denying or confirming what will make it to the final release.

Also a number of things may be subject to change so don't take everything you know for granted [/cryptic]
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Cepheus
Cepheus


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Legendary Hero
Far-flung Keeper
posted April 21, 2011 12:58 PM

I would like to hope for a miracle, but I'm quite sure there won't be any very significant changes unless absolutely necessary. If there is new content it will probably be small stuff.
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The_Polyglot
The_Polyglot


Promising
Supreme Hero
Nuttier than squirrel poo
posted April 21, 2011 01:27 PM

Thanks!

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Wckey
Wckey


Famous Hero
posted April 21, 2011 02:03 PM

Still, there's no excuse for not giving us any news at all. Michael doesn't count, of course...
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Jabanoss
Jabanoss


Promising
Legendary Hero
Property of Nightterror™
posted April 21, 2011 02:07 PM

Well they did give us an artwork.
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